Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

bucketybuck wrote: »

The headline on RTE news website on the day in question clearly and simply stated "9 deaths from Covid".

Not, "1 death today", not "1 death today and 8 others confirmed from previous months".

No, the headline on the national broadcaster was "9 deaths from Covid".

Save your agenda please.

Then your issue is with RTÉ, not with the Government or NPHET.

It was explicitly stated by Ronan Glynn right at the start of the press conference that 8 were historical. From day one they have announced deaths on day of notification.

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Ah, seriously? FFS!

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0723/1155184-coronavirus-ireland/

"At a media briefing this evening, the acting Chief Medical Officer, Dr Ronan Glynn, said eight of the nine deaths are late notifications that took place in April, May and June."

Second sentence of the article. It's not exactly hidden, like.

I guess maybe if you only look at headlines things might confuse you.

Yep. A whole lot of issues revolve around an inability to read. Articles use too many words to understand. Should be explained in one sentence maximum.

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Ah, seriously? FFS!

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0723/1155184-coronavirus-ireland/

"At a media briefing this evening, the acting Chief Medical Officer, Dr Ronan Glynn, said eight of the nine deaths are late notifications that took place in April, May and June."

Second sentence of the article. It's not exactly hidden, like.

I guess maybe if you only look at headlines things might confuse you.

In your haste to act indignant you perhaps forgot to actually read any of my posts?

Here is a clue, my first sentence mentioned the 3/4 deaths this week. For the logical that might have been an indication that I know there weren't 9 deaths that day.

Now, do you want to try again?

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

In all fairness the rhetoric pedalled in the post here is utter boloxoligy, it was the same yesterday.

But thats what the pro restriction argument is solely based upon. "Suck it up, sure isnt it grand".

Not really.

The argument is based around getting control of the outbreak of an infectious and dangerous virus and trying to protect public health.

However the "pro opening up" argument is indeed largely based around "open it up, sure isn't it grand."

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No its based around the fact little evidence exists as to the benefits of why Ireland are the most restrictive nation in Europe?

In other words: open up, sure it'll be grand.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Reckon non food pubs will still be closed after the 10th Aug cause the government are scared of a rise in numbers before schools are suppose to return

Getting pissed off at it all at this stage

Hey I thought this thread wasn't about the pubs?

Jackman25 wrote: »

And so far it has been and no reason to think Phase 4 would have been any different.

All thanks to our slow and steady approach in opening up.

Dickie10 wrote: »

a lot of pubs opening up and doing token food, espically rural pubs. only right.

My local is wedged. I left a few minutes ago because I was there since 3. They do food til 7 then the chinese kicks in

Have a look at this thread.
https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1286766950669049856?s=21

Jackman25 wrote: »

You would have said the exact same had we not sped up the opening up of restrictions phases which you opposed.

I reckon you would be saying the same if we were still in Phase 1 at the moment.

Already it looks like an error to postpone Phase 4.

No, I wouldn't.

I haven't opposed any of the phases of opening up and the speed at which they happened.

Your mind reading skills need some work.

Between mates being in pubs and telling us their experience in group chats, the ones I've been in and the stories from my brother who owns 2 Dublin pubs. It would appear very few are following the food thing for every person. And even less with the time limit. A lot aren't even bothering with the food part at all.

I was in 3 pubs tonight, 2 in suburbs and 1 in Dublin city center. Not once were we asked for food. We just ordered in first one by our own accord. And we were never asked to leave. Social distancing, good hygiene and table service in all though. So a lot of pubs are pretty much operating like how normal pubs will be when they open. And we haven't seen any cases stemming from them yet. What is it, a month in now? Its something similar in most of Europe too. I'm not often in pubs and I was cautious of them opening up originally. But open them up and be strict on making sure the social distancing happens.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would be very easy to process made up receipts for food surely? Jobs Oxo so in the unlikely event that the plod would investigate.

Anyway most people are law abiding, shame on those who want to buck the system either customer or owner. Sick of it. There is little acknowledgement of what is right from many now. That is a shame. IMV.

Await the usual backlash. Thanks so much.

Selling a sandwich with a pint doesn't make a pint safer

Naos wrote: »

Nah mate, I've been reliably advised on this thread that we're the only country in the EU with pubs closed.

Yeah. That's the trouble with this thread at times.

Penfailed wrote: »

It makes the environment safer. You already know that though.

I do in fairness. As some lad said earlier, a one night stand is safer if she has a toasted cheese sandwich.

Its the mark of intelligence to understand that