Masks

xhomelezz · 19-07-2020 06:42AM

Yes: valved

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I test drove one earlier, basically you are beathing in the same air you expelled, not a healthy way to live for any length of time, sort of like taking back in your own piss.

Looks like you test drove plastic bag, not mask..

GazzaL · 19-07-2020 07:25AM

Strumms wrote: »

I’m at a loss to understand why people just don’t want to wear them...

Are the uncomfortable ?... after getting used to them...NO, not at all.

are they expensive... NO, not remotely

Just get some, use them...

They are uncomfortable. Especially when it's warm, when it's humid, when talking, when working (particularly physical work).

GazzaL · 19-07-2020 07:30AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

You're wasting your time. You're arguing with selfish, narcissistic people that thinks it's all about them. They just want you to live like them. Just ignore them.

The selfish narcissists want to force everyone to wear masks and have come out with crazy lies like suggesting supermarkets are virus hotspots. I agree that they are best ignored. People should be free to choose if they wear masks or not, this isn't North Korea.

fr336 · 19-07-2020 07:32AM

Yes: surgical

drunkmonkey wrote: »

This is the thing, it's not just a year, this could be the rest of our lives. There's a solution which doesn't require masks that should be adopted until we find a better way.
I've my party hat pretty much hung up, there's a few generations behind me that deserve to be having the time of their lives.

Donning the mask is letting Government off the hook until god knows when. It's not a country I want to bring my kids up in. I'm jumping ship at some stage with my family if this goes on too long.

When do you stop wearing it? What do we do with bare faces and the people who it triggers a first official mental illness in like me, seriously, what's the plan here i'm not seeing it.

The rest of our lives give me a break...we've had restrictions since March, which was four months ago. Four! Every step of the way there have been people trying to stop prevention measures by saying "we can't live like this forever". Even in March they were doing it! Also, as has been mentioned by anti maskers all the time, they're not required in bars or restaurants for obvious reasons. So if people are going to be affected by having to wear them for a dull trip to the supermarket, I'd worry for their state of mind in the first place tbh.

GazzaL · 19-07-2020 07:37AM

fr336 wrote: »

The rest of our lives give me a break...we've had restrictions since March, which was four months ago. Four! Every step of the way there have been people trying to stop prevention measures by saying "we can't live like this forever". Even in March they were doing it! Also, as has been mentioned by anti maskers all the time, they're not required in bars or restaurants for obvious reasons. So if people are going to be affected by having to wear them for a dull trip to the supermarket, I'd worry for their state of mind in the first place tbh.

Every step of the way, people offered pragmatic solutions to move forwards and were shouted down by the same eejits that are now proclaiming masks as our saviour. We moved forwards despite the mutterings of the lockdown nazis.

Like you say yourself, you can spend a considerable period of time in a bar or restaurant without a mask, but if you want to run in and out of a huge supermarket to buy some apples you have to wear one despite this not being considered a risk at the peak of the pandemic? How stupid is that.

fr336 · 19-07-2020 07:43AM

Yes: surgical

GazzaL wrote: »

Every step of the way, people offered pragmatic solutions to move forwards and were shouted down by the same eejits that are now proclaiming masks as our saviour. We moved forwards despite the mutterings of the lockdown nazis.

Like you say yourself, you can spend a considerable period of time in a bar or restaurant without a mask, but if you want to run in and out of a huge supermarket to buy some apples you have to wear one despite this not being considered a risk at the peak of the pandemic? How stupid is that.

At the peak of the pandemic the rest of society was locked down and supermarkets were severely restricting the amount of people allowed in them. You could go in one in the daytime and it'd feel like you were in at 11pm. They're not worn in bars and restaurants because you kind of need to eat and drink. We can't make prevention perfect, but we can lessen the risk. Wearing a face covering in shops with crowds of strangers is a great way to cut down on spread.

GazzaL · 19-07-2020 07:46AM

fr336 wrote: »

At the peak of the pandemic the rest of society was locked down and supermarkets were severely restricting the amount of people allowed in them. You could go in one in the daytime and it'd feel like you were in at 11pm. They're not worn in bars and restaurants because you kind of need to eat and drink. We can't make prevention perfect, but we can lessen the risk. Wearing a face covering in shops with crowds of strangers is a great way to cut down on spread.

Supermarkets were still busy throughout the pandemic, many were busier than normal. They're not like Hill 16 on All Ireland Final day.

Pinch Flat · 19-07-2020 07:46AM

Yes: surgical

Took a trip to my local Aldi yesterday. I'm guessing 75% mask wearing by Joe public me included. All staff on floor had masks and cashiers - some had some hadn't. Plastic screens and good adherence to social distancing generally. I find wearing a mask a minor inconvenience and can't understand why we didn't implement them much sooner.

fr336 · 19-07-2020 07:52AM

Yes: surgical

GazzaL wrote: »

Supermarkets were still busy throughout the pandemic, many were busier than normal. They're not like Hill 16 on All Ireland Final day.

Why are basic face coverings, or visors, such a big deal to wear on a mundane trip to a shop?

Jim_Hodge · 19-07-2020 08:03AM

Yes: homemade

GazzaL wrote: »

Supermarkets were still busy throughout the pandemic, many were busier than normal. They're not like Hill 16 on All Ireland Final day.

No they weren't busy 'during the pandemic' (we're still in a pandemic, so I'll take it you mean the early days of the restrictions). They were limiting numbers and the only thing vaguely suggesting being busy were the queues outside. Inside was almost empty. Now more people are in the store and more shops are open. How you can say they were busier than normal beggars belief.

Terminator. · 19-07-2020 08:09AM

fr336 wrote: »

Why are basic face coverings, or visors, such a big deal to wear on a mundane trip to a shop?

Shopping is a social outing for some people

For others it doesn't matter

prunudo · 19-07-2020 08:18AM

No: other

I think that this is really being brought in for every other shop rather than large supermarkets where social distancing is easier to maintain. You will get better compliance if you just make it a blanket decision as it avoids grey areas of the rules.

Jim_Hodge · 19-07-2020 08:22AM

Yes: homemade

Terminator. wrote: »

Shopping is a social outing for some people

For others it doesn't matter

You can talk with a face covering.

How much of a social event do you want from shopping?

drunkmonkey · 19-07-2020 08:43AM

No: other

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You can talk with a face covering.

So we should see them all wearing Masks at the next NEPHET briefing and Micheál Martin will be addressing us using one when he's taking indoors from now on.
Not likely.

Pkiernan · 19-07-2020 08:50AM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Ha. Always comes back to this when the argument is lost.

I didn't know they gave out PhDs in virology down at the Dole Office.

average_runner · 19-07-2020 08:51AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

So we should see them all wearing Masks at the next NEPHET briefing and Micheál Martin will be addressing us using one when he's taking indoors from now on.
Not likely.

Formula 1 drivers are doing tv interviews with masks on and very easy to understand

drunkmonkey · 19-07-2020 08:57AM

No: other

average_runner wrote: »

Formula 1 drivers are doing tv interviews with masks on and very easy to understand

Micheál Martin and NPHET should have no bother then.

GazzaL · 19-07-2020 09:37AM

I went to Tesco this morning and was talking to a paramedic who wasn't wearing any face mask. Even many of our healthcare professionals aren't wearing face masks in shops.

19-07-2020 09:43AM

GazzaL wrote: »

I went to Tesco this morning and was talking to a paramedic who wasn't wearing any face mask. Even many of our healthcare professionals aren't wearing face masks in shops.

And your point?

Boggles · 19-07-2020 09:47AM

GazzaL wrote: »

I went to Tesco this morning and was talking to a paramedic who wasn't wearing any face mask. Even many of our healthcare professionals aren't wearing face masks in shops.

I went to Dunnes this morning, met 7 brain surgeons, all wearing masks.

is_that_so · 19-07-2020 09:48AM

No: other

Deleted User wrote: »

And your point?

Perceived level of risk. Our cases have come from care settings, some from travel and close physical contact. The current ones are largely down to family or big indoor gatherings and there are still some healthcare workers. Supermarkets are and have been low risk, aided by the excellent work they themselves have done on managing numbers.

ExMachina1000 · 19-07-2020 09:50AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Boggles wrote: »

I went to Dunnes this morning, met 7 brain surgeons, all wearing masks.

Went to Boylesports yesterday, met 6 hardy polish boys. None wearing masks but all interested in your whereabouts

Boggles · 19-07-2020 09:51AM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Went to Boylesports yesterday, met 6 hardy polish boys. None wearing masks but all interested in your whereabouts

Jesus, that is next level creepy.

ExMachina1000 · 19-07-2020 09:52AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Boggles wrote: »

Jesus, that is next level creepy.

I think they were only interested in buying some masks. I wouldn't worry

drunkmonkey · 19-07-2020 09:59AM

No: other

Boggles wrote: »

I went to Dunnes this morning, met 7 brain surgeons, all wearing masks.

You should have brought them here, we've a few liberal scardey pants need sorting.

19-07-2020 10:00AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Perceived level of risk. Our cases have come from care settings, some from travel and close physical contact. The current ones are largely down to family or big indoor gatherings and there are still some healthcare workers. Supermarkets are and have been low risk, aided by the excellent work they themselves have done on managing numbers.

Right, so supermarkets have been grand because of the measures being taken. And the plan is to just keep those measures until there's a vaccine? That's what all the anti-maskers want?

19-07-2020 10:02AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You should have brought them here, we've a few liberal scardey pants need sorting.

We're not American and this isn't political. What a bizarre post that only serves to show where you get your ideas from.

timmy_mallet · 19-07-2020 10:03AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

For anyone too selfish to wear a mask, read this and wear a mask when around people. I and alot more users here do not want to get symptoms like these. Also, we do not want to end up as a long hauler.

This is a scary disease, one in which we don't have a vaccine for. A few minutes in a shop, or on public transport, and people feel put out. Well, I couldn't care less how you feel so hard done by with mandatory masks. I do not want to catch this disease, I do not want symptoms that last for weeks or months, I do not want to end up in the ICU, I do not want to end up on a ventilator and nobody should be allowed to infect others with a disease like this.

Just wear a mask, please.

https://english.elpais.com/science_tech/2020-07-17/over-half-of-coronavirus-hospital-patients-in-spain-have-developed-neurological-problems-studies-show.html?fbclid=IwAR3841UNn09-Wv8CF4gYKe768yPiD0iZZKR8XxlRii_SAe7ourlc1bANof4

Do anyone of you reading these things apply some critical thinking to them?

20% moderate neurological issues, right. All of those contracted in elderly hospitalised patients. So 20% of 5% of 0.3% of the tested population.

Here's a similar study of H1N1, the flu. And its essentially similar to covid19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3559119/#:~:text=Overall%2C%2023%20(41.8%25)%20patients,coma%20in%20five%20(9.1%25).

Boggles · 19-07-2020 10:03AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You should have brought them here, we've a few liberal scardey pants need sorting.

Jesus, state of you.

19-07-2020 10:04AM

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