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New, unregistered Irish-bought car from 1976 - where do I start?

alfa beta · 2019-11-26 23:39:42

So, my Dad (God rest his motoring and hoarding soul) bought a new Peugeot 504 in 1976, drove it home, decided he wasn't that keen on it, wrapped it in a few blankets and some plastic sheets, then kept it hidden away in the garage for the rest of his (and its) life. It's now 2019 so the car is 43 years old, yet to all…

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#552 13-07-2020 7:52pm

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spaceHopper wrote: »

Whats under the tarm to the left of the merc?

Morris Eight (from 1940s)

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#553 13-07-2020 8:01pm

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Here are some photos of the VW Variant / Squareback now that it's emerged from its cocoon and can actually be seen from more angles than the rear.

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#554 13-07-2020 8:56pm

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Definitely the squareback would be my favourite:)

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#555 13-07-2020 11:17pm

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Quick question whats the difference between red and black plates?

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#556 13-07-2020 11:22pm

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#557 14-07-2020 7:07am

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Silver on black was the standard from 1904-1974.
When Irl joined the EEC in 1974, black on red (rear) and black on white (front) became the new standard. UK joined at the same time, but chose yellow for the rear plates.

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#558 14-07-2020 9:18am

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Besides the sills, the VW doesn't look too bad? Hard to tell how much is just surface rust...

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#559 14-07-2020 9:27am

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Digression. I see a lot of love for that VW squareback. FD: never saw one in my life living in the US. I've ridden in a lot of different VW's, Dashers Karmann-Ghias, Scirocco, Buses, Rabbits, Golfs, Beetles of many eras, Passatsand I even owned an Audi for 10 years, which was the best car I've ever owned. Why so much love for what looks like a pokey box that doesn't seem like it'll handle or ride well nor be particularly quick?

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#560 14-07-2020 9:31am

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Igotadose wrote: »

Digression. I see a lot of love for that VW squareback. FD: never saw one in my life living in the US. I've ridden in a lot of different VW's, Dashers Karmann-Ghias, Scirocco, Buses, Rabbits, Golfs, Beetles of many eras, Passatsand I even owned an Audi for 10 years, which was the best car I've ever owned. Why so much love for what looks like a pokey box that doesn't seem like it'll handle or ride well nor be particularly quick?

It's all about nostalgia. 0-100 times rarely come into the classic car owner's mind.

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#561 14-07-2020 9:49am

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Also, as your post confirms: They're rare

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#562 14-07-2020 10:02am

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Silent Running wrote: »

It's all about nostalgia. 0-100 times rarely come into the classic car owner's mind.

100%. It's the car you wanted as a kid or one you had as young lad.

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#563 14-07-2020 10:11am

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...and hindsight being the wonderful thing that it is, there was a time when the squareback, fastback and - Variant - were worth, literally nothing.

I remember a dark red 412LE - the fuel injected Type 4 - being literally left to rot on the side of the road, here: https://goo.gl/maps/u6MneL9b9ghuwq7j9

Oooh to have that now..............

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#564 14-07-2020 11:00am

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Well....I'd take it in a heartbeat if the rust wasn't excessive, above any of the rest of them, but thats just me:)

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#565 14-07-2020 3:10pm

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Not just you, both the variant and the fastback have always been my favourite VWs, good few of them around when I was growing up

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#566 15-07-2020 12:16pm

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I used to work with a man in the 70's who had a variant. We'd collect stock from a warehouse every week, and deliver it to various outlets. I was always amazed at the amount of stuff you could cram in the back.
We lost touch, and years later I bumped into a fella who knew him in the trade back then.
Have to say... I got a bit of a fright when I was told that the 'stock' we were collecting, was.... well, not being 'collected' as such, more like 'acquired without payment'....
Seemingly he'd been caught one morning, arrested, and spent some time behind bars.....

The only thing I could think of saying was...
'Wonder what ever happened the VW ?'

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#567 15-07-2020 2:15pm

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swarlb wrote: »

I used to work with a man in the 70's who had a variant. We'd collect stock from a warehouse every week, and deliver it to various outlets. I was always amazed at the amount of stuff you could cram in the back.
We lost touch, and years later I bumped into a fella who knew him in the trade back then.
Have to say... I got a bit of a fright when I was told that the 'stock' we were collecting, was.... well, not being 'collected' as such, more like 'acquired without payment'....
Seemingly he'd been caught one morning, arrested, and spent some time behind bars.....

The only thing I could think of saying was...
'Wonder what ever happened the VW ?'

This thread just keeps giving.
There is a mini series or a book here with the main story and all the side avenues.

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#568 15-07-2020 3:50pm

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I remember back in the day when we used to go across the border with the fastback.
On the way back when we hit the checkpoint the guard asked to see into the boot at the customs
checkpoint.

He walked around the back where 99% of all boots on cars were at the time.
Checked it out, saw the normal every day shop, shuffled around, and waved us through.

Good job he never knew there was a bigger front boot on these, than there was in the rear.

It was like duty free at the airport

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#569 15-07-2020 4:06pm

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kadman wrote: »

I remember back in the day when we used to go across the border with the fastback.
On the way back when we hit the checkpoint the guard asked to see into the boot at the customs
checkpoint.

He walked around the back where 99% of all boots on cars were at the time.
Checked it out, saw the normal every day shop, shuffled around, and waved us through.

Good job he never knew there was a bigger front boot on these, than there was in the rear.

It was like duty free at the airport

How did you stop the Kerrygold melting?

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#570 15-07-2020 6:25pm

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Kerrygold was in the front, along with all the other goodies,

well away from the heat:D:D

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#571 16-07-2020 3:10pm

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I'm sure everyone's forgotten about the original car in this thread by now, but here's some footage of a 504 diesel in action on the fine roads of '80s West Clare: https://www.rte.ie/archives/collections/news/21267864-potholes-in-west-clare/

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#572 16-07-2020 4:44pm

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zilog_jones wrote: »

I'm sure everyone's forgotten about the original car in this thread by now, but here's some footage of a 504 diesel in action on the fine roads of '80s West Clare: https://www.rte.ie/archives/collections/news/21267864-potholes-in-west-clare/

I drove one in that colour in the ninteen eighties. Bought new and loved it. My husband hated the colour and rarely drove it.

Brother in law borrowed it when it was just a few months old and had a serious enough front end collision. It was in city traffic so no real speed and no one injured and no personal injury claims.
Luckily he was fully insured and a repair was done but I never trusted it afterwards and traded it in less than a year later for a Volvo.

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#573 16-07-2020 4:47pm

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You'd think any customs guy worth his salt would know VWs were rear engined...

Although our lads weren't a patch on the Stasi, they had their off-days too -

How I escaped from East Berlin in a Lotus sports car (in the tiny space where the fuel tank used to be) :eek:

Scrap the cap!

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#574 17-07-2020 10:55am

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I'm delighted this morning to let readers of this thread know that the Variant has found a new home, one which (fingers crossed) will see her back on the road in all her previous air-cooled, rear-engined glory at some point in the not too distant future.

And as was the case with the other vehicles (the MZ bikes, the Daihatsu Van, one of the Honda 50's) the sale of the VW to a wonderfully enthusiastic new owner has resulted in another substantial donation to the Cope Foundation at a time when traditional fundraising is nigh on impossible.

:)

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#575 17-07-2020 2:17pm

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That's brilliant news.

Will the new owner be posting pics of the restoration here or elsewhere, do you know?

Scrap the cap!

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#576 17-07-2020 2:37pm

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Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Will the new owner be posting pics of the restoration here or elsewhere, do you know?

Or more specific, is kadman here the new owner?

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#577 17-07-2020 2:59pm

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Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

That's brilliant news.

Will the new owner be posting pics of the restoration here or elsewhere, do you know?

I'd hazard a guess that the new owner should put any resto pics here on this thread, in admiration of the values of the guy that started this thread, and what he was setting out to achieve by it.:)

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#578 17-07-2020 3:38pm

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Alfa you probably know about this but just in case you don't.

Tax back to the charity.

https://www.cope-foundation.ie/TaxEfficientGiving

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#579 17-07-2020 5:19pm

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unkel wrote: »

Or more specific, is kadman here the new owner?

Lol ... oh I couldn't possibly say!

I guess we'll just have to wait and see who the new owner is when kad- I mean when the new owner posts pics of the fully restored vehicle!

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#580 17-07-2020 5:35pm

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alfa beta wrote: »

Lol ... oh I couldn't possibly say!

I guess we'll just have to wait and see who the new owner is when kad- I mean when the new owner posts pics of the fully restored vehicle!

ooh , I think maybe he could squeeze a few pictures before that:P

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#581 17-07-2020 5:39pm

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Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

That's brilliant news.

Will the new owner be posting pics of the restoration here or elsewhere, do you know?

In answer to your question, he will most definitely be posting the pics here, whatever about elsewhere:)

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#582 17-07-2020 5:41pm

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alfa beta wrote: »

Lol ... oh I couldn't possibly say!

I guess we'll just have to wait and see who the new owner is when kad- I mean when the new owner posts pics of the fully restored vehicle!

Brilliant! No better man to do the job. Really looking forward to see a thread with all the progress.

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#583 17-07-2020 7:35pm

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Well its no surprise that I was interested in the VW from the moment I saw it
posted up here.

It was a car I have always had a longing for since way back when we had them
in the family, and from the outset I had been in contact to offer help if needed
to offer any advice on the car to Alfa.

And when I heard of the history of the car, you know I advised alfa that maybe he should keep it.

But he had a goal in site to raise money for his charity, and offered me the chance to meet his asking
price. So i agreed . And the rest they say is history. I travelled to see the car, and was delighted
that i had bought it. I had the pleasure of meeting Alfa and his mother, lovely, lovely people.

Great experience..

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#584 17-07-2020 8:12pm

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Great thread Alfa, keep it going!

Kadman, I am already looking forward to seeing how the restoration goes over the coming months. I have great memories of those cars when I was a child.

This might be a strange question Alfa, but did you by any chance find any cylinder lawnmowers that your father might have ever bought / kept in those sheds of his? I don't have the space for a tractor...

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#585 17-07-2020 8:30pm

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kadman wrote: »

I had the pleasure of meeting Alfa and his mother, lovely, lovely people.

I think we all got the sense that they were from this thread .

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#586 17-07-2020 9:25pm

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This thread just keeps on giving

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#587 18-07-2020 1:00am

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I honestly think it's the best thread I've ever seen on boards.

Except for Trent of course.

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#588 18-07-2020 4:23pm

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The legend of Trent will never be topped!!

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#589 18-07-2020 5:13pm

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I can't believe you haven't read the sunk boat and restore thread, or the boat sink and recover attempt thread.... but if you mean car-wise, then that's fair enough. Love the thread, too, btw, op. Fair play and hats off.

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alfa beta wrote: »

The legend of Trent will never be topped!!

Um. Who?

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#591 18-07-2020 5:19pm

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Um. Who?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055716814

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Gadgetman496 wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055716814

Oh dear - has the potential to take away my evening:D

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#593 18-07-2020 6:47pm

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Anatom wrote: »

This might be a strange question Alfa, but did you by any chance find any cylinder lawnmowers that your father might have ever bought / kept in those sheds of his? I don't have the space for a tractor...

Yep. There's this one:

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#594 18-07-2020 8:54pm

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alfa beta wrote: »

Yep. There's this one:

You Sir, are a veritable magician, you are liable to pull anything out of that shed:D:D

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New Home wrote: »

I can't believe you haven't read the sunk boat and restore thread, or the boat sink and recover attempt thread.... but if you mean car-wise, then that's fair enough. Love the thread, too, btw, op. Fair play and hats off.

Where did I say I haven't?

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#596 21-07-2020 11:31am

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Zero wheel drive, one careful owner, low mileage, in need of some restoration

The boat build thread is here:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055963665

Amazing workmanship there. And a very poignant thread to read all the way through.

Scrap the cap!

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His other boat thread is here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057583016

Cruiser restauration and wheelchair access, or something.

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#598 22-07-2020 3:25pm

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VW Variant was delivered today.

Its a cracking car with great potential. I am well chuffed I got it.:cool:

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#599 22-07-2020 5:19pm

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kadman wrote: »

VW Variant was delivered today.

Its a cracking car with great potential. I am well chuffed I got it.:cool:

I look forward to the thread.

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#600 22-07-2020 10:56pm

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Just popped off the front wheel to free a seized disc. And as Type 3's go, its very good here.

And a few more pics...[IMG][/img]

Power washed here,

Welcome home,

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Judging by the amount of sand in the lower front part of the wing here, I would hazard a guess that many a happy hour was spent beachcombing in this car:)

Now burrying my jack in sand :P And still preserving the original paint beneath

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