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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #5582
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Arghus wrote: »
    Face coverings to be mandatory in UK shops from July 24. I think it's a question of when not if for us now.

    Possibly. The line seems to be in places where people can't social distance but often can't tell until it's too late so nearly better off wearing before going somewhere indoors with other people to be safe.

    Might see it for going to cinema, gigs etc


  • #5583
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Possibly. The line seems to be in places where people can't social distance but often can't tell until it's too late so nearly better off wearing before going somewhere indoors with other people to be safe.

    Might see it for going to cinema, gigs etc

    I felt that there was an inevitably to them eventually making coverings mandatory, but I think the UK deciding on it is going to make it more of a hot topic and there'll be greater emphasis now to do it. If even they are doing it, you'd wonder about our approach.

    Maybe they'll have a graduated response, but I think it gets needlessly complicated that way, you may as well just make it a requirement for indoors across the board IMO.

    As for gigs. I reckon it'll be a good long while before we see them again in anything approaching normal form, masks or no.


  • #5584
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,276 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I emailed all my TDs. Sinn Fein are the only ones who responded. No response from the Taoiseach, Minister for Public Expenditure and Minister for Foreign Affairs who are supposed to be “my representatives”.

    [img][/img]https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=519724&d=1594637667

    Thank you for your email to the Taoiseach.


    As you can appreciate, we are currently experiencing a very large increase in the volume of emails received into this Office due to the Covid-19 pandemic. We appreciate your understanding.


    You may wish to be aware that the latest information in relation to Covid-19 may be obtained at https://www2.hse.ie/coronavirus/ or call 1850-241850.


    Go raibh maith agat as ucht do ríomhphost chuig an Taoiseach.


    Mar a thuigfidh tú, tá líon mór ríomhphoist ag teacht isteach chuig an Oifig de bharr an paindéim Covid-19. Go raibh maith agat as ucht a bheith tuisceanach.


    Mar eolas duit is féidir an t-eolas is déanaí maidir le Covid-19 a fháil ar https://www2.hse.ie/coronavirus/ nó gloagh ar 1850-241850.

    (I really do not know what I was expecting back :o)
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  • #5585
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Thank you for your email to the Taoiseach.

    Simon Harris personally responded to people especially kids - MM prefers to ramble in the few interviews he's done, Donnelly is a specialist in not answering questions (probably from his independent times when they didn't know what they wanted)

    Really should have left Harris in the same position after dealing with this for the past 5/6 months


  • #5586
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Arghus wrote: »
    I felt that there was an inevitably to them eventually making coverings mandatory, but I think the UK deciding on it is going to make it more of a hot topic and there'll be greater emphasis now to do it. If even they are doing it, you'd wonder about our approach.

    Maybe they'll have a graduated response, but I think it gets needlessly complicated that way, you may as well just make it a requirement for indoors across the board IMO.

    As for gigs. I reckon it'll be a good long while before we see them again in anything approaching normal form, masks or no.

    Yeah think makes sense to do it soon while focus on public transport too as an additional measure.

    There's social distanced gigs starting to come back but yeah can't see a normal of gigs for a while, lot of speculation about autumn 2021.


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  • #5587
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,276 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Simon Harris personally responded to people especially kids - MM prefers to ramble in the few interviews he's done, Donnelly is a specialist in not answering questions (probably from his independent times when they didn't know what they wanted)

    Really should have left Harris in the same position after dealing with this for the past 5/6 months

    Should I do a drawing for MM :p
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  • #5588
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Should I do a drawing for MM :p

    I dread to think what it would be :D


  • #5589
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah think makes sense to do it soon while focus on public transport too as an additional measure.

    There's social distanced gigs starting to come back but yeah can't see a normal of gigs for a while, lot of speculation about autumn 2021.

    Whole lot of speculation, but I look at all of that as basically aspirational really. There's not a single person in the world who has a clue what things will be like in three months, six months, a year. Would be great if things are back to normal, but you'd wonder. Big indoor and outdoor gatherings - things will have to change a lot.

    I've read a lot on here about people railing against restrictions and lockdown - "we have to live with this virus". Well, they could soon be finding out what that means in reality.

    Living with the virus probably means no lockdowns, but masks, limits on numbers and a certain amount of normal behaviours and things we took for granted being off the menu, possibly for a long time. People are in for a land over the next few weeks and months I think.


  • #5590
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Governor Cuomo of New York discussed what is needed for the schools to reopen, the quarantine regime in NY and aimed several delicious broadsides at that lying toxic bloated orange oaf in the White House, at today's press conference.

    He really does not want anyone from infected states to set foot in New York, we should do likewise.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs6h3KdtMY


  • #5591
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-warning-from-italy-effects-of-covid-19-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-12027348

    Off the foot of the Italian study (posted here this evening) and more research from the UK, it seems that the inflammatory conditions stemming from the infection are manifesting themselves in patients. These can be much more serious than the respiratory infection typically seen in mildly symptomatic patients.

    People who had mild to moderate illness are having difficulty walking, developing kidney issues, insomnia and other illness months after infection.

    For anyone who is interested, I have attached an AMA done this evening with neuropsychiatrist Dr Tim Nicholson, where sufferers of neurological issues ask questions about the long-term symptoms they've been experiencing. These include brain fog, muscle tingling/burning, fatigue, Guillain-Barré syndrome (a rare neurological disorder in which the body's immune system mistakenly attacks part of its peripheral nervous system), anxiety and shooting sensations in the brain.

    Heavy enough info, so here's a cute gif of some cats with minor brain scramblies for sensitivity balance.
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    They're called Pablo and Bones.


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  • #5592
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,842 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    I wonder are the powers that be behind the Democratic party happy that cases are spiking, by the time we get to the election there will be a lot of anger due to the way things were handled but there will also be a good chance of herd immunity in many states something which will benefit the Democrats if they win.

    Good chance Biden or Trump could get this and kick the bucket tho


  • #5593
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    JJayoo wrote: »
    I wonder are the powers that be behind the Democratic party happy that cases are spiking, by the time we get to the election there will be a lot of anger due to the way things were handled but there will also be a good chance of herd immunity in many states something which will benefit the Democrats if they win.
    https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1282830302272987137?s=09

    Very unsettling growth in cases and death rates across America. Many of the blue states are faring better at containment than their republican neighbours. Things like mask compliance, education about handwashing and respiratory etiquette and carefully implementing safe workplaces while keeping schools closed have been effective control methods (seeing as Trump allocated inadequate funds to many at the start, they had to take more drastic action from the start).

    Putting it simply, the majority in red states hate being told what to do, think covid is a hoax and demand business as usual as regards commerce and education. That's a lethal combination. It isn't just the ignorant who suffer when the cases and deaths start to rise but the scales seem to be tipping in favour of them now.

    New York enforcing a quarantine on visitors (Fauci firing serious shots in Trump's direction)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs6h3KdtMY


    Meanwhile bars are being closed again in Nevada but not casinos.
    Good chance Biden or Trump could get this and kick the bucket tho
    What do you think of Elizabeth Warren? :(


  • #5594
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,096 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    El Sueño wrote: »
    No evidence of reinfections in those articles. My post said that there's zero proof of reinfections and it'd be all over the news if there was.

    If you could point me to actual evidence of reinfections I'd be interested to see it ☺️

    The main circumstance I can envisage where you might be able to prove reinfection would be if a person was infected with two genetically distinct versions of the virus at different times, which is highly unlikely due to the low mutation rate, not to mention the low chance of someone running such tests. Other than that, people will just make the assertion that the person was never virus free and that the tests were faulty. But does it really matter, because the main issue is the lack of immunity conferred, leading to a return of symptoms? Whether it's technically a reinfection or a flare up hardly matters as both are only possible with a poor immune response, which is the principal problem.

    I already provided multiple links reporting a second bout of symptoms.


  • #5595
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Spanish court suspends lockdown of virus-hit Catalonia area
    A local court in Spain has suspended a home confinement order imposed on more than 200,000 people in the region of Catalonia after an upsurge in virus cases.

    Catalonia officials ordered the home confinement on the city of Lerida and its surrounding areas a week after the zone had been placed under less strict lockdown.

    "The Lerida district court has decided not to ratify the measures of the 12 July resolution," the Catalan supreme court said on its Twitter account, although the decision can be appealed.


  • #5596
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Yes I'm sure there are other factors to it and I certainly wouldn't say that the percentage of patients found to experience long term effects could necessarily be extrapolated to other groups not represented in the study obviously but it is interesting research nonetheless.

    Some posters voiced concerns about long term illness post recovery and their concerns were dismissed based on other posters anecdontal accounts of people they knew who had recovered fully and the fact that no studies such as the above had been released yet. So the research does validate those concerns to some extent for sure.

    G'way outta that with your scientific studies or even accounts from doctors with hundreds of patients in hotspot areas who are dealing with sequelae...isn't Padge-Joe's cousin's wife's niece's mechanic's friend and the oul wan who lives over the mountain from them perfectly fine. That'll do me.


  • #5597
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    s1ippy wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1282830302272987137?s=09

    Very unsettling growth in cases and death rates across America. Many of the blue states are faring better at containment than their republican neighbours. Things like mask compliance, education about handwashing and respiratory etiquette and carefully implementing safe workplaces while keeping schools closed have been effective control methods (seeing as Trump allocated inadequate funds to many at the start, they had to take more drastic action from the start).

    Putting it simply, the majority in red states hate being told what to do, think covid is a hoax and demand business as usual as regards commerce and education. That's a lethal combination. It isn't just the ignorant who suffer when the cases and deaths start to rise but the scales seem to be tipping in favour of them now.

    New York enforcing a quarantine on visitors (Fauci firing serious shots in Trump's direction)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs6h3KdtMY


    Meanwhile bars are being closed again in Nevada but not casinos.


    What do you think of Elizabeth Warren? :(

    Watching that YouTube clip, Cuomo is such a calming figure, in comparison to other figures. Sure, he made made mistakes in the early days but difference is they learnt from these mistakes, have now changed course and going in the right direction.

    Unlike the charlatan in the White House,his administration and select governors who should face charges of manslaughter against their own people at the very least, for ignoring their own medical teams advice and facilitating an accelerating reopening that has now seen surge of cases, as was strongly predicted.


  • #5598
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    If you have missed your daily dose of doom and gloom, read through the replies to this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/Ciaraioch/status/1282790721926438912?s=19

    I have never seen so many people scared to live their lives in a single place.


  • #5599
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Governor Cuomo of New York discussed what is needed for the schools to reopen, the quarantine regime in NY and aimed several delicious broadsides at that lying toxic bloated orange oaf in the White House, at today's press conference.

    He really does not want anyone from infected states to set foot in New York, we should do likewise.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs6h3KdtMY

    Do you mean foreigners in Ireland or Dubliners in Kerry?


  • #5600
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    mloc123 wrote: »
    If you have missed your daily dose of doom and gloom, read through the replies to this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/Ciaraioch/status/1282790721926438912?s=19

    I have never seen so many people scared to live their lives in a single place.

    That's grim, genuinely I'm beginning to wonder do people actually enjoy this level of fear.


  • #5601
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,750 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    mloc123 wrote: »
    If you have missed your daily dose of doom and gloom, read through the replies to this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/Ciaraioch/status/1282790721926438912?s=19

    I have never seen so many people scared to live their lives in a single place.

    Unreal.
    I feel almost back to normal now. Played hurling match sunday, had pints afterwards with team-mates, visiting family (with hugs etc), local opens next Monday.
    Is the level of fear in that thread really rational?


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  • #5602
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    mloc123 wrote: »
    If you have missed your daily dose of doom and gloom, read through the replies to this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/Ciaraioch/status/1282790721926438912?s=19

    I have never seen so many people scared to live their lives in a single place.

    Unbelievable.
    1 reply, I'd like to go out for a coffee without feeling like I might die. Really ? What kind of rationale is that.

    Eye opening that thread


  • #5603
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,612 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    WoollyRedHat wrote:
    Unlike the charlatan in the White House,his administration and select governors who should face charges of manslaughter against their own people at the very least.
    Yeah agree with that. Leo Varadkar and Simon Harris are in the same boat. Letting back skiers without self-isolation, letting in the Italian rugby fans and letting people off to Cheltenham and other sporting events. They caused many deaths.


  • #5604
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,347 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yeah agree with that. Leo Varadkar and Simon Harris are in the same boat. Letting back skiers without self-isolation, letting in the Italian rugby fans and letting people off to Cheltenham and other sporting events. They caused many deaths.

    :pac:


  • #5605
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    That's grim, genuinely I'm beginning to wonder do people actually enjoy this level of fear.

    Obviously they don't. Alot of people are suffering from anxiety due to the pandemic especially people working in healthcare


  • #5606
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    mloc123 wrote: »
    If you have missed your daily dose of doom and gloom, read through the replies to this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/Ciaraioch/status/1282790721926438912?s=19

    I have never seen so many people scared to live their lives in a single place.

    Holy F.


  • #5607
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Unbelievable.
    1 reply, I'd like to go out for a coffee without feeling like I might die. Really ? What kind of rationale is that.

    Eye opening that thread

    I suspect most of those people suffer from some level of depression or anxiety... Lots of mentions about how lockdown felt like a safely net.


  • #5608
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    That's grim, genuinely I'm beginning to wonder do people actually enjoy this level of fear.

    I think that there is a large part of the population that embrace it tbh

    And the reason that they lash out at the rest of us is that we are making it more difficult for them to wallow in it


  • #5609
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Varadkar says mandatory quarantine not possible for legal and practical reasons. No detail on what they are though. https://www.newstalk.com/news/varadkar-mandatory-quarantine-turned-bit-disaster-australia-1045630?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1594714920


  • #5610
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    That's grim, genuinely I'm beginning to wonder do people actually enjoy this level of fear.

    Hardly. After months of restrictions its not unusual that there would be anxiety for some. These people may experience mental health issues generally. Hopefully they get help to make them feel more comfortable re-entering life.


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  • #5611
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Unreal.
    I feel almost back to normal now. Played hurling match sunday, had pints afterwards with team-mates, visiting family (with hugs etc), local opens next Monday.
    Is the level of fear in that thread really rational?

    A lot of fear is irrational though.


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