Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

MickeyLeari · 13-07-2020 08:30PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I would think so. Hopefully it is

If Germany is not on the green list there is no point in having a list.

Rob A. Bank · 13-07-2020 08:46PM

Another Irish business that deserves our support, Croi Restaurant, 14 Prince’s Street, Tralee.

"Two groups of US diners were turned away from the Croi Restaurant in the historic Princes Street quarter of Tralee after admitting they had not quarantined. They were drop-in diners who came to the door, chef Noel Keane said.

The refusals took place on Wednesday and Friday of last week."

Fair dues to them... doing the government's job at a cost to their own business.

I wish hotels, hostels and guesthouses would do the same - a night out in the rain might convince them to go back to the address where they are supposed to be isolating.

How much more evidence does the government need that voluntary self isolation is just not working ?

ACitizenErased · 13-07-2020 08:50PM

Facebook comments never fail to make me laugh.

petes · 13-07-2020 08:54PM

cnocbui wrote: »

'Second infection' is equivalent to saying reinfection. I think your question would be more apt if directed at your own post.

No, you posted articles from February, anything more recent? The latter part of your post is more obtuse and irrelevant as ever.

Any chance you'd post actual links with actual relevance?

Your posts are nothing short of you trying to come across as 'i know better' and they aren't very becoming.

How about drop the narcissism and tell us how you really feel?

ShineOn7 · 13-07-2020 08:56PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Facebook comments never fail to make me laugh.

First time the universe has ever seen the correct spelling of "through" and "their" by a Karen

fritzelly · 13-07-2020 08:59PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Another Irish business that deserves our support, Croi Restaurant, 14 Prince’s Street, Tralee.

"Two groups of US diners were turned away from the Croi Restaurant in the historic Princes Street quarter of Tralee after admitting they had not quarantined. They were drop-in diners who came to the door, chef Noel Keane said.

The refusals took place on Wednesday and Friday of last week."

Fair dues to them... doing the government's job at a cost to their own business.

I wish hotels, hostels and guesthouses would do the same - a night out in the rain might convince them to go back to the address where they are supposed to be isolating.

How much more evidence does the government need that voluntary self isolation is just not working ?

a man in the other group said the Covid-19 pandemic was “over-hyped,”

Says it all really - ban US visitors now - apart from the ones who won't quarantine we also have the ones who think it's nothing more than a cold

Rob A. Bank · 13-07-2020 09:02PM

Pathophysiology, Transmission, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

An up to date comprehensive review of the current state of knowledge, as recommended by Dr Mike Ryan in today's WHO press briefing.

caveat emptor · 13-07-2020 09:27PM

Here's what enforcement looks like. No point having a rule if you can't enforce it. Businesses shouldn't have to confront people just as much bus drivers shouldn't be responsible for enforcing the mask rule. It's not their job. It is the governments though.

They should prove that they have two weeks accommodation booked and paid for or a letter from a family member stating quarantine will be observed. Any break and the person or the relative will be fined heavily.

Could have done this but we advertise via hashtag. Great craic altogether.

A group of six Victorians fined $24,000 after police busted them trying to cross the Queensland border against coronavirus restrictions were told they might have the disease.

timsey tiger · 13-07-2020 09:29PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Says it all really - ban US visitors now - apart from the ones who won't quarantine we also have the ones who think it's nothing more than a cold

On the other hand a f**l and his money are soon parted, so maybe let some of the second type in.

CalamariFritti · 13-07-2020 09:31PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Holy **** imagine if Trump is secretly a genius and his 99% of cases are fine comment is true after all.

I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying if it was.

Also while he is a clumsy dope not everything he says is untrue. He has been right with some of his stuff. In any case I'm sure he has advisers which aren't all idiots.

Away With The Fairies · 13-07-2020 09:32PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Another Irish business that deserves our support, Croi Restaurant, 14 Prince’s Street, Tralee.

"Two groups of US diners were turned away from the Croi Restaurant in the historic Princes Street quarter of Tralee after admitting they had not quarantined. They were drop-in diners who came to the door, chef Noel Keane said.

The refusals took place on Wednesday and Friday of last week."

Fair dues to them... doing the government's job at a cost to their own business.

I wish hotels, hostels and guesthouses would do the same - a night out in the rain might convince them to go back to the address where they are supposed to be isolating.

How much more evidence does the government need that voluntary self isolation is just not working ?

Our government has failed us in so many ways. Back in March, it was pubs closing themselves before St Patrick's Day. It was small towns cancelling their parades and four months later we have businesses stepping up again.

JJayoo · 13-07-2020 09:33PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Is it though?

Because all we care about is hospitalisation and death rates. If nobody got real badly sick and nobody died we wouldnt care how many got this virus.
Thats what has me wondering about all these record new cases reports every day. You never hear how many died. Must be pretty low then.
If people stop dying from it its just a cold.

I mean that the low death rate can be used to dimiss the virus and any preventive measures such as wearing masks.

The Whitehouse/Trump are also using the low death rate as a sign that they have the virus under control and that the country needs to reopen.

Today the Whitehouse are attacking Fauci because he hasn't been going along with this narrative.

BBC News - Coronavirus: White House targets US disease chief Dr Anthony Fauci
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53392817

fritzelly · 13-07-2020 09:40PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I'm not saying that it is. If saying if it was.

Also while he is a clumsy dope not everything he says is untrue. He has been right with some of his stuff. In any case I'm sure he has advisers which aren't all idiots.

A broken clock is right twice a day

fritzelly · 13-07-2020 09:43PM

JJayoo wrote: »

BBC News - Coronavirus: White House targets US disease chief Dr Anthony Fauci
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53392817

Navarro - says it all really
He was the one saying everyone is getting an injection to stop you catching it (prior to a press conference) over a month ago (among other ludicrous claims of his)

stephenjmcd · 13-07-2020 09:46PM

Latest HSE testing stats
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/integrated-information-service-testing-and-contact-tracing-dashboard-13-july-2020.pdf

CalamariFritti · 13-07-2020 09:51PM

fritzelly wrote: »

A broken clock is right twice a day

A pearl of wisdom thats neither here nor there. Someone was dismissing something I said because it 'sounded like Trump'. I said it doesn't and in any case he is not always wrong.

Why are we talking about Trump now?

LiquidZeb · 13-07-2020 10:15PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying if it was.

Also while he is a clumsy dope not everything he says is untrue. He has been right with some of his stuff. In any case I'm sure he has advisers which aren't all idiots.

Oh I know what you're saying I'm just taking the piss

bb1234567 · 13-07-2020 10:51PM

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768351

The first major study of patient health after recovery has been released. It is based in Italy, 44% of participants in the study report diminished quality of life and chronic illness 60 days after onset of symptoms.

Though is it important to note that the study only includes those hospitalised with the virus , and of course this group experienced much worse illness than the majority of infected people.

JP Liz V1 · 13-07-2020 11:13PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Apparently nursing home in Mallow, Cork has been locked down due to a cluster identified in the mass testing. Not sure if it’s true.

I heard Macroom Home also lockdown

JJayoo · 13-07-2020 11:14PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768351

The first major study of patient health after recovery has been released. It is based in Italy, 44% of participants in the study report diminished quality of life and chronic illness 60 days after onset of symptoms.

Though is it important to note that the study only includes those hospitalised with the virus , and of course this group experienced much worse illness than the majority of infected people.

Put any older person in a bed for a few weeks and their quality of life will deminish drastically, a loss of mobility is a killer

Zonda999 · 13-07-2020 11:16PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768351

The first major study of patient health after recovery has been released. It is based in Italy, 44% of participants in the study report diminished quality of life and chronic illness 60 days after onset of symptoms.

Though is it important to note that the study only includes those hospitalised with the virus , and of course this group experienced much worse illness than the majority of infected people.

We will probably start to see lots of more studies like this.

For context in this country, approximately 13% of those who tested positive were in Hospital per the government covid data hub (3,330 hospital admissions from 25,638 positive cases).

Away With The Fairies · 13-07-2020 11:18PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768351

The first major study of patient health after recovery has been released. It is based in Italy, 44% of participants in the study report diminished quality of life and chronic illness 60 days after onset of symptoms.

Though is it important to note that the study only includes those hospitalised with the virus , and of course this group experienced much worse illness than the majority of infected people.

I know someone who wasn't hospitalised and they have had over a 100 days of symptoms. Hospitalised or not it's not a nice virus to get.

bb1234567 · 13-07-2020 11:21PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Put any older person in a bed for a few weeks and their quality of life will deminish drastically, a loss of mobility is a killer

Yes I'm sure there are other factors to it and I certainly wouldn't say that the percentage of patients found to experience long term effects could necessarily be extrapolated to other groups not represented in the study obviously but it is interesting research nonetheless.

Some posters voiced concerns about long term illness post recovery and their concerns were dismissed based on other posters anecdontal accounts of people they knew who had recovered fully and the fact that no studies such as the above had been released yet. So the research does validate those concerns to some extent for sure.

Arghus · 13-07-2020 11:35PM

Face coverings to be mandatory in UK shops from July 24. I think it's a question of when not if for us now.

ACitizenErased · 13-07-2020 11:36PM

HSE Daily Operations Update
14 in hospital, increase of 3.
3 confirmed cases in hospital last 24 hours, 2 in Mater and 1 in Letterkenny.

10 in ICU, decrease of 1.
No deaths last 24 hours.
5 ventilations, decrease of 2.

Charles Babbage · 13-07-2020 11:39PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

HSE Daily Operations Update
14 in hospital, increase of 3.
3 confirmed cases in hospital last 24 hours, 2 in Mater and 1 in Letterkenny.

10 in ICU, decrease of 1.
No deaths last 24 hours.
5 ventilations, decrease of 2.

If it is mostly the invulnerable young getting it, than why the admissions to hospital?

ACitizenErased · 13-07-2020 11:45PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

If it is mostly the invulnerable young getting it, than why the admissions to hospital?

You'd expect a few to need hospital for oxygen etc.

fritzelly · 13-07-2020 11:45PM

Arghus wrote: »

Face coverings to be mandatory in UK shops from July 24. I think it's a question of when not if for us now.

There was a time when we were more proactive than the UK - now not so...

My first time in to Dublin city center since the lockdown today - lots of shop staff wearing masks or shields and screens up
Even tho I found it really uncomfortable wearing one today (found myself not getting enough oxygen - wearing a cloth mask) the gesture should be reciprocal

Deeper Blue · 13-07-2020 11:46PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Just in; just for you:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0995-0
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8517531/Recovered-Covid-19-patients-develop-14-immunity-study-claims.html

No evidence of reinfections in those articles. My post said that there's zero proof of reinfections and it'd be all over the news if there was.

If you could point me to actual evidence of reinfections I'd be interested to see it ☺️

fritzelly · 13-07-2020 11:47PM

El Sueño wrote: »

No evidence of reinfections in those articles. My post said that there's zero proof of reinfections and it'd be all over the news if there was.

If you could point me to actual evidence of reinfections I'd be interested to see it ☺️

Don't bother engaging

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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