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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You know rightly that that is not the intention. Get outraged at racism where racism exists. Controlling non essential travel in to the country is not, never was, and never will be racism.

    The poster was calling for immigrants and non Nationals to get deprioritized by the health service. I'm not going to get dragged into it but that's racist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    So the hse have stated the numbe of deaths from c19 have been overinflated. What's the official number?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,323 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Hilarious. Will we do the same for any foreign born doctors or nurses as well? What's your great contribution to the Irish health service?

    I think letting potential virus carriers from hot spots into Ireland is doing a great disservice and disrespect to our hero front line staff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think letting potential virus carriers from hot spots into Ireland is doing a great disservice and disrespect to our hero front line staff

    You weren't on about travellers you said Brazilian people and Roma. Stop trying to weasel your way out of what you originally said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,198 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Stheno wrote: »
    If Florida were a country it would be fourth in the world today for new cases


    Crazy numbers

    UK are maybe doing stealth herd immunity

    America are definitely doing stealth herd immunity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,323 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    The poster was calling for immigrants and non Nationals to get deprioritized by the health service. I'm not going to get dragged into it but that's racist.

    What I was saying was all Irish citzens including from Brazil and Roma need to be put first ahead of international incoming travel holidayers that Irish lives and health matter and if that makes me racist so be it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,198 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    The poster was calling for immigrants and non Nationals to get deprioritized by the health service. I'm not going to get dragged into it but that's racist.

    No, be honest. You're looking for outrage. And you're dragging yourself into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,323 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Call me racist but we need to put Ireland and it's citizens first, these citzens would include from Brazil and Roma if long term

    I'm sorry but the silence from Coveney and Martin on incoming travel from hot spots is maddening :mad:
    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You weren't on about travellers you said Brazilian people and Roma. Stop trying to weasel your way out of what you originally said.

    I included citzens from Roma and Brazil as Irish citzens in my post, read again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    gipi wrote: »
    Clare had a case in Friday's figures - their clear streak has gone, I'm afraid.

    That is so sad...

    The definition of being 'free of the virus' is 28 days without a case.

    Co. Clare was the only county in the country to achieve that landmark.

    All gone now :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Our politicians are infuriating. It really doesn't feel they like they have joe public's interest at heart.

    If they were serious about this they would test at the airport, then enforce real quarantine for 2 - 4 days, then test again. New Zealand can do it, Taiwan can do it, Japan can do it.. We can do IT.

    If we can convince the north to adopt the same policy, as well as making masks mandatory indoors, we could be in a similar, safe situation, like Taiwan.

    Ireland is in a great place right now but globally the situation is dire. Our leaders need to step up to the plate now and take some definitive action before it's too late.
    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Every single person I have spoken too lately is absolutely furious that Americans are allowed into our country and roam freely
    After all our efforts , after all the cancelling of weddings and funerals , after people in care homes had no visitors for months and people lost loved one this is our thanks from our Government
    Arghus wrote: »
    Hard to believe how the government is sitting on its hands, despite the clear and obvious risk posed by US tourists. Absolute madness, have they learned nothing since March? What happened to all that decisiveness. It makes a mockery of all those efforts over the last few months.



    And many more in this thread of the same sentiment

    Lads, I completely agree with you. I saw this coming 3 weeks ago

    But us just complaining about it on an internet forum that isn't really read by anyone important in Ireland anymore (they're all on Twitter) isn't going to achieve anything

    Citizen has linked to the site where you can find and email your local TD about it. Will it achieve anything? Who knows

    But it has a better chance than us just giving out about it on Boards

    It's still ok for us to debate it here. It's a great way for us to vent


    But it needs to backed up with action too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    That is so sad...

    The definition of being 'free of the virus' is 28 days without a case.

    Co. Clare was the only county in the country to achieve that landmark.

    All gone now :(

    Come on now, this means nothing. Anyone from any other county is free to travel all over Clare spreading away. Not to mention the tourists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You weren't on about travellers you said Brazilian people and Roma. Stop trying to weasel your way out of what you originally said.

    You misread the post and then went off on one. Don't suppose you'll retract any of it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    petes wrote: »
    You misread the post and then went off on one. Don't suppose you'll retract any of it?

    He said Irish citizens should get priority over non Nationals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Hearing stories of all the young lads at house parties all over the place then all back at football training :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,323 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    He said Irish citizens should get priority over non Nationals.

    When did I (she) say that?

    I've quoted my post a few times now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Boggles wrote: »
    Face masks have been compulsory in all those 4 countries for the entire summer so far.

    Don't see that here. Hardly 10-15%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,557 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Renjit wrote: »
    Don't see that here. Hardly 10-15%.

    That's because our public officials and governance were telling us for months that wearing a mask will definitely get you infected.

    Silly Silly Rabbits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Ficheall wrote: »
    I worked many summers in a tourist shop - we used to hate seeing the Americans coming in, because they talked loudly and asked questions and bought sweet eff all. Whereas the old Scots (despite their reputation) would just come in and ask for a dozen of this and half a dozen of the other, and then toddle off.
    I realise this is just one scenario, but I'm finding it difficult to call to mind any American I've met who was overly generous with their cash. I'll think on it..

    Great tippers if you work behind the bar, to be fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    What I was saying was all Irish citzens including from Brazil and Roma need to be put first ahead of international incoming travel holidayers that Irish lives and health matter and if that makes me racist so be it

    Don’t bite on the straw man argument. They are clutching at straws. Most Americans coming here are affluent and white. Nothing to do with race. We are all in this **** together.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    About the numbers of new cases that rose during the week and seem to be falling again, this seems to be consistent with the pattern of other countries. After the peak has passed, the numbers of daily new cases rises and falls but overall remains fairly stable at a low level. So a rise over a few days does not necessarily mean the start of a new wave. I haven't looked into this in any further detail, and there will be localised clusters, but wouldn't be surprised if Ireland starts to see a similar pattern over the coming weeks.

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    So based on this we can expect a bit of a rise but this will then drop again and stay at relatively low steady levels?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You weren't on about travellers you said Brazilian people and Roma. Stop trying to weasel your way out of what you originally said.

    Stop trying to put words in people’s mouths.
    Tone down your outrage chief, you’ll only increase your blood pressure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    And many more in this thread of the same sentiment

    Lads, I completely agree with you. I saw this coming 3 weeks ago

    But us just complaining about it on an internet forum that isn't really read by anyone important in Ireland anymore (they're all on Twitter) isn't going to achieve anything

    Citizen has linked to the site where you can find and email your local TD about it. Will it achieve anything? Who knows

    But it has a better chance than us just giving out about it on Boards

    It's still ok for us to debate it here. It's a great way for us to vent


    But it needs to backed up with action too

    Good point. We need to all do our best to raise awareness and push for a resolution.

    I will not be voting fine fail based on this loop hole. I’ll admit I wasn’t a fan in the first place after the last crash but I’d give the benefit of the doubt given the public health crisis. You have to hit them where it hurts I’m afraid.

    Do we even know if that Dublin group in the Kerry holiday home knew they were infectious? I find that hard to believe do a couple of reasons.

    If they knew they were positive and truely didn’t give a **** how could that be socially acceptable given that they are travelling to a holiday home for the weekend?

    If that person did test positive and went anyway then they need to be reprimanded for what it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Hearing stories of all the young lads at house parties all over the place then all back at football training :/

    All over the news about West Cork yet they all test negative and everyone back training.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think if I even saw Matthew McConaughney walking down the street now near me, I would run far away in the opposite direction and shout fcek back to America, alright alright alright


    Even if I saw Jennifer Lopez dancing down O Connell Street like this I'd still shout "Here Jenny! Feck off back to the block!"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Even if I saw Jennifer Lopez dancing down O Connell Street like this I'd still shout "Here Jenny! Feck off back to the block!"



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    Christ :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Christ :rolleyes:


    That's the spirit ;)



    Can't all be doom and gloom around here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,323 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Even if I saw Jennifer Lopez dancing down O Connell Street like this I'd still shout "Here Jenny! Feck off back to the block!"

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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    That is so sad...

    The definition of being 'free of the virus' is 28 days without a case.

    Co. Clare was the only county in the country to achieve that landmark.

    All gone now :(
    Pentecost wrote: »
    Come on now, this means nothing. Anyone from any other county is free to travel all over Clare spreading away. Not to mention the tourists.


    Well, it's a long long way from Clare to here, so I'm not too worried.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    About the numbers of new cases that rose during the week and seem to be falling again, this seems to be consistent with the pattern of other countries. After the peak has passed, the numbers of daily new cases rises and falls but overall remains fairly stable at a low level. So a rise over a few days does not necessarily mean the start of a new wave. I haven't looked into this in any further detail, and there will be localised clusters, but wouldn't be surprised if Ireland starts to see a similar pattern over the coming weeks.

    TyPFYet.png

    I’d say you are right. I’ve never caught a flu in July so it’s probably a given. I don’t think anyone is talking about waves while we are being relatively careful.

    I have caught a flu in October though. Wasn’t fun. Most viral respiratory pandemics tend to peak in winter months. US trying to flatten this curve by bringing the trough up to the peak to balance it out.


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