Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

KrustyUCC · 12-07-2020 06:14PM

Always_Running wrote: »

By my count 36 more weekly cases than last week but we had roughly 11,000 extra tests carried out this week. 10 deaths this week one less than last week.

That's a great post

12-07-2020 06:20PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Even anyone travelling for work or family visits, is 14 days quarantine not happening?

They should, yes, unless working in one of the professions listed as essential. I have been, but am WFH anyway, so no hardship. And the 14 day isolation is only one way, as the UK never required it for arrivals from Ireland even when they did for everyone else.

The poster was asking why there are flights at all when tourism from UK isn’t wanted.

JP Liz V1 · 12-07-2020 06:22PM

I already miss Simon, Leo and Tony briefings

yosemitesam1 · 12-07-2020 06:23PM

Always_Running wrote: »

By my count 36 more weekly cases than last week but we had roughly 11,000 extra tests carried out this week. 10 deaths this week one less than last week.

How many tests carried out in total last week?

Santy2015 · 12-07-2020 06:24PM

How many tests done in the last 24 hours? The dashboard hasn’t updated

Always_Running · 12-07-2020 06:27PM

35,252 test was carried out last week. The data says this week is 46,255 tests the last 7 days but hasn't updated today

12-07-2020 06:28PM

I was in Dublin City Centre yesterday morning and witnessed two Glendalough tour busses with at least 60 Spanish or Italian student types waiting to board them. I counted 6 of them wearing masks.

I should have taken a photo in hindsight.

is_that_so · 12-07-2020 06:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was in Dublin City Centre yesterday morning and witnessed two Glendalough tour busses with at least 60 Spanish or Italian student types waiting to board them. I counted 6 of them wearing masks.

I should have taken a photo in hindsight.

They could be school boarders. There are a number of schools that board international teenagers, with at least two on the southside.

ACitizenErased · 12-07-2020 06:39PM

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

How many tests carried out in total last week?

Over 50,000

Eod100 · 12-07-2020 06:39PM

Now looks like Donnelly is putting onus on businesses and public to enforce this. It needs to be done by authorities at airports and ports. Need to also be doing more awareness of this in countries people are travelling from. ""The Irish people who have sacrificed so much have an absolute right to expect that people who are coming to this country are engaged with in a very friendly way but in a very professional way so they are fully aware of their expectations." https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/tour-operator-cancels-guided-cycle-after-learning-tourists-from-us-had-not-self-isolated-after-arriving-1010700.html?__twitter_impression=true

JP Liz V1 · 12-07-2020 06:43PM

#IrishLivesMatter

is_that_so · 12-07-2020 06:44PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Now looks like Donnelly is putting onus on businesses and public to enforce this. It needs to be done by authorities at airports and ports. Need to also be doing more awareness of this in countries people are travelling from. ""The Irish people who have sacrificed so much have an absolute right to expect that people who are coming to this country are engaged with in a very friendly way but in a very professional way so they are fully aware of their expectations." https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/tour-operator-cancels-guided-cycle-after-learning-tourists-from-us-had-not-self-isolated-after-arriving-1010700.html?__twitter_impression=true

It sounds to me like he's trying to avoid the pitchforks approach favoured by some. It has to strike a balance. Offer random testing if you're from a hot zone, encourage the 14 days isolation and welcome to Ireland.

bb1234567 · 12-07-2020 06:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was in Dublin City Centre yesterday morning and witnessed two Glendalough tour busses with at least 60 Spanish or Italian student types waiting to board them. I counted 6 of them wearing masks.

I should have taken a photo in hindsight.

Tens of thousands of immigrants live in Dublin, they didn't all necessarily travel here recently. Many of the immigrants who live here still like to take day trips to explore they country they now live in. I'm sure some were tourists, but just being foreign doesn't mean they all were

is_that_so · 12-07-2020 06:47PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

#IrishLivesMatter

Sure,sure Brazilians and Roma who got sick here have only themselves to blame.

fritzelly · 12-07-2020 06:48PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It sounds to me like he's trying to avoid the pitchforks approach favoured by some. It has to strike a balance. Offer random testing if you're from a hot zone, encourage the 14 days isolation and welcome to Ireland.

Sounds more like typical FF - ignore it and hope it goes away

podgeandrodge · 12-07-2020 06:49PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Went to the pub tonight. As usual it was well managed, had a small bite to eat as did everyone else, and a couple of pints. All well.

I do have to say though, that there was one guy in the corner with 3 mates, and he let out this massive sneeze into his hands. That didn't particularly bother me - nobody can be held responsible for an instinctive reaction. But then, a few seconds later, came the next sneeze - loud and half-heartedly into his hands. Myself and my mate watched wondering to be honest how his friends didn't say WTF man, either go out and blow your nose or at least follow public health advice and sneeze into your elbow. Few seconds later, again, and then again. All powerful sneezes with a half-arsed attempt to cover his nose with his hands.

I'm don't understand how, in the current situation, people would not take basic precautions for themselves and fellow customers. If that guy had covid (and he most likely at this time didn't given low transmission rates), his ignorance would have placed everyone nearby at risk. We need to open things and life needs to get started again so how are people like this not aware of it?

To date, my concerns have been minor, such as with what I saw in my local the other night as I outlined above, a class A fukkwit. It's people like him that place our pretty damn good status in jeopardy. But what do do? His friends didn't challenge him, the bar staff didn't, and I wasn't going to start a row in a bar...

But anyway, despite being guilty of being dismissive of the odd doommongerer from time to time, I'm now veering into extreme discontent about restriction free incoming travel for US citizens (ignoring the 24 day sham). There's clearly public concern about it, so why the silence from politicians about it? Donnelly's response was pathetic for someone that used to rottweil opposition in the past.

There's no denying the clusterfuukk that the US is right now and having them coming here in the short term is a luxury we can't afford. And I say that having many friends there.

is_that_so · 12-07-2020 06:49PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Tens of thousands of immigrants live in Dublin, they didn't all necessarily travel here recently. Many of the immigrants who live here still like to take day trips to explore they country they now live in. I'm sure some were tourists, but just being foreign doesn't mean they all were

About 11%-12% I think now. It seems foreign is bad now as we've seen packed planeloads of imaginary tourists showing up in the last week or so.

ginoginelli · 12-07-2020 06:49PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was in Dublin City Centre yesterday morning and witnessed two Glendalough tour busses with at least 60 Spanish or Italian student types waiting to board them. I counted 6 of them wearing masks.

I should have taken a photo in hindsight.

Companies doing this need to be named and shamed. They are putting the public's health and safety and risk for the sake of profit.

It is morally reprehensible behaviour.

Eod100 · 12-07-2020 06:51PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It sounds to me like he's trying to avoid the pitchforks approach favoured by some. It has to strike a balance. Offer random testing if you're from a hot zone, encourage the 14 days isolation and welcome to Ireland.

Well its still that non essential travel is to be avoided. No issue with testing at departure airports. At arrival not sure how effective it would be when incubation period is 14 days. Could only work along with self isolation not instead of.

Drumpot · 12-07-2020 06:52PM

I have wondered if it was easier for our stand in government to make bolder calls since election until recently. They basically had little to lose as they were already elected out so were able to make tough, unpopular calls. This new government has a lot to lose now, I hope they don’t keep putting off things or avoid making tough calls that may not be popular. I also hope they keep up the communication that was good from FG.

Considering how many people have been complaining about our undemocratic stand in government, it would be ironic if this was part of the reason things were shut down when they were. Cancelling St Patrick’s day and closing schools was not a popular decision. It took a lot of poole a fair while to cop on to how serious things were.

is_that_so · 12-07-2020 06:52PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Sounds more like typical FF - ignore it and hope it goes away

Harris had five months of practice and Donnelly hasn't found a script for himself yet. In the grand scheme of things it is a minor issue considering to what he needs to get up to speed on.

manofwisdom · 12-07-2020 06:53PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Over 50,000

Where did you get that figure? Last Sunday evening July 5th the COVID-19 Data Hub had a little over 35,000 test for the last 7 days.

Either way its good news that positivity rate remains low and hopefully it stays that way in the weeks and months ahead.

fritzelly · 12-07-2020 06:55PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Harris had five months of practice and Donnelly hasn't found a script for himself yet. In the grand scheme of things it is a minor issue considering to what he needs to get up to speed on.

He hasn't just finished primary school - needs to cop the feck on and start making decisions

JP Liz V1 · 12-07-2020 06:58PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They could be school boarders. There are a number of schools that board international teenagers, with at least two on the southside.

I thought all boarding schools were closed too

Drumpot · 12-07-2020 06:58PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Harris had five months of practice and Donnelly hasn't found a script for himself yet. In the grand scheme of things it is a minor issue considering to what he needs to get up to speed on.

I actually like Donnelly but I have wondered at time’s what the thinking is with certain government positions. Like does the previous Mminister for health work with them to get up to speed ?

Always seems like positions are chosen strategically for parties as opposed to picking the right people in the right jobs. Hopefully Donnelly finds his feet quickly and starts pro active measures to mitigate future surges.

is_that_so · 12-07-2020 06:59PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Well its still that non essential travel is to be avoided. No issue with testing at departure airports. At arrival not sure how effective it would be when incubation period is 14 days. Could only work along with self isolation not instead of.

The incubation period can be up to 14 days, it's usually a lot less. The notion that people will vanish and not self-isolate strikes me as more than absurd. Why exactly would they do that in the face of such a transmissible disease?

spookwoman · 12-07-2020 07:00PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

To date, my concerns have been minor, such as with what I saw in my local the other night as I outlined above, a class A fukkwit. It's people like him that place our pretty damn good status in jeopardy. But what do do? His friends didn't challenge him, the bar staff didn't, and I wasn't going to start a row in a bar...

But anyway, despite being guilty of being dismissive of the odd doommongerer from time to time, I'm now veering into extreme discontent about restriction free incoming travel for US citizens (ignoring the 24 day sham). There's clearly public concern about it, so why the silence from politicians about it? Donnelly's response was pathetic for someone that used to rottweil opposition in the past.

There's no denying the clusterfuukk that the US is right now and having them coming here in the short term is a luxury we can't afford. And I say that having many friends there.

Money, it's all about money, americans spend lots of it when they come over.
Totally agree someone should have had a word with that man, doesn't matter if sinus or hay fever he may be asymptomatic.
Another tip for sneezing if you don't want to sneeze into your elbow or hands is pull the neck of your t shirt or whatever up over your nose and sneeze down the inside of it. Might end up with a wet chest but better that then spraying all over the place.

Arghus · 12-07-2020 07:01PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I already miss Simon, Leo and Tony briefings

FF are already making FG look like paragons of competence.

JP Liz V1 · 12-07-2020 07:01PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Sure,sure Brazilians and Roma who got sick here have only themselves to blame.

Call me racist but we need to put Ireland and it's citizens first, these citzens would include from Brazil and Roma if long term

I'm sorry but the silence from Coveney and Martin on incoming travel from hot spots is maddening :mad:

is_that_so · 12-07-2020 07:02PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought all boarding schools were closed too

There are a number I know of which take kids for up to 2 years. I've no idea what they did but they may still be here.

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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