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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #4922
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,112 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    There is plenty of evidence vaccines for one virus creates an immune response to help protect you against others. Having and recovering from other cold and viruses which are very similar also does the same, so the theory is more than plausible. While your analogy is ridiculous.

    Yes, that's been mentioned as regards the BCG for TB .
    But the common cold which is a Corona virus would not protect against SARS. Too different .
    Now maybe if you had had SARS Covid 1 ....;)


  • #4923
    ChelseaRentBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    I'd like to see spot checks on house parties by the Gardai and revenue/social services. If improper adhering to social distancing rules don't apply then anyone in receipt of pandemic payment should have it removed with immediate effect.

    We need to get tough with these idiots.


  • #4924
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Trump visited a medical centre today and wore a mask. Not sure if it’ll do much, but a small gesture like this may in fact have a big impact to at least some of his followers

    https://twitter.com/ap/status/1282068566737670144?s=21

    Too little, too late :pac:


  • #4925
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Trump visited a medical centre today and wore a mask. Not sure if it’ll do much, but a small gesture like this may in fact have a big impact to at least some of his followers

    https://twitter.com/ap/status/1282068566737670144?s=21

    I'm thinking that was Secret Service directive to him and he hadn't got much choice

    As an aside, from looking at pic it looks like he went for a filter under the cloth for an extra layer of protection. He hasn't got the intelligence to do that himself, which leads back to it been a Secret Service directive


    (PS: We're all now on a Special List for mentioning "Secret Service", "Protection" and "Trump" all in the same thread)


  • #4926
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    He visited a mask factory a few months ago and refused to wear one, even picking up finished masks and ended up contaminating sterile stock.


    That's hilarious


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  • #4927
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,112 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    That's actually quite a big gesture

    Yes can't believe I thanked a Trump the Good post! :)
    Have to say something to balance it , like , About Bloody Time!


  • #4928
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    A decent thread here in reply to that


    The tweet you posted neatly illustrates why Irish people holidaying in Europe are putting our gains at risk.


    https://twitter.com/Care2much18/status/1282004486135980032


  • #4929
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,112 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Yeah that’s the general theory, and even if it doesn’t confer immunity to this strain of it, coronaviruses in their nature come in varying waves with seasonal influence so that should impact it. Like most other things (long term effects, length of immunity, etc) it’s all a waiting game and observing what happens. It’s why Sweden is an interesting example, of course they’ve suffered many deaths compared to neighbours so I’m not saying it was the correct approach, but nothing close to the levels predicted have happened there.

    Yes , the data from Sweden will be very interesting after all this, but what a way to go about it .
    It would be the only positive for them really if they were actually immune to a second wave , after this awful death ride they have been on , and all the other countries who are doin g so badly .


  • #4930
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,858 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    14 day incidence rate makes the figures look better....

    Anyhow we either have vaccine or herd immunity and no vaccine is gonna be rolled out in next few months so be careful and keep those who are vunerable safe.


  • #4931
    ChelseaRentBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Virus is out of control now in southern United States but yet Disneyland opened its doors back up today in Florida.

    Mad country.


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  • #4932
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Trump visited a medical centre today and wore a mask. Not sure if it’ll do much, but a small gesture like this may in fact have a big impact to at least some of his followers

    https://twitter.com/ap/status/1282068566737670144?s=21

    Looks photoshopped onto him.
    I think this is part of strategy to blame (and then fire) Dr.Fauci, who is now more trusted than Trump.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/10/trump-fauci-covid-19-coronavirus-cases


  • #4933
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    The tweet you posted neatly illustrates why Irish people holidaying in Europe are putting our gains at risk.


    https://twitter.com/Care2much18/status/1282004486135980032

    This tweet is crazy, I knew flu put a strain on hospitals each year but had no idea of the actual extent in actual numbers

    https://twitter.com/care2much18/status/1282004491714342912?s=21


  • #4934
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Travel letter template from Reddit.
    Dear

    I have concerns regarding the reports of American tourists entering and travelling around Ireland without any restrictions (by reports, none of them are isolating) This is an insult to the people in this country who went into lockdown, thousands losing their jobs and yet we done it willingly in order to protect the citizens of this country. Allowing visitors from the most infected country in the world to arrive on our shores is an absolute disgrace and more importantly it again puts our frontline workers in danger. The government needs to step up to the mark and either ban American tourists or put more stringent measures in place.

    Kind regards

    Send it to your local TDs.
    https://www.whoismytd.com/


  • #4935
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    This tweet is crazy, I knew flu put a strain on hospitals each year but had no idea of the actual extent in actual numbers

    https://twitter.com/care2much18/status/1282004491714342912?s=21

    I'm missing what the point of that tweet is??? :confused:


  • #4936
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    Virus is out of control now in southern United States but yet Disneyland opened its doors back up today in Florida.

    Mad country.

    That was a Micky Mouse decision.


  • #4937
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Any thoughts on this reply?

    50% of people not susceptible plus another 30% already exposed = approaching herd immunity in UK?

    https://twitter.com/CatrionaColllns/status/1281733145851822080?s=19

    The source of the claims here is not the tweeter but Karl Friston of UK Independent SAGE (the alternative to SAGE).

    However, the claims remain bollocks.

    I believe there is a 'paper' to come, but Friston is a neuroscientist, whose current big theory is 'free energy of the brain', or something.


  • #4938
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    This tweet is crazy, I knew flu put a strain on hospitals each year but had no idea of the actual extent in actual numbers

    https://twitter.com/care2much18/status/1282004491714342912?s=21


    Flu comparisons still after 4 months of this?

    Seriously?

    Depending on the country's data you read, Covid is:
    • 5-10 times more contagious than Flu
    • 5-20 times more fatal than Flu

    edit: In some cases, when a country's CFR with it is 5%, it's as much as 50 times more fatal than Flu

    Flu's mortality rate is 0.1% in Ireland. It's easy Maths to figure out


  • #4939
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    The source of the claims here is not the tweeter but Karl Friston of UK Independent SAGE (the alternative to SAGE).

    However, the claims remain bollocks.

    I believe there is a 'paper' to come, but Friston is a neurologist, whose current big theory is 'free energy of the brain', or something.

    Aha! Thank you. I should have done my own detective work. Just sounding it out with the community here. Cheers DH.


  • #4940
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Flu comparisons still after 4 months of this?

    Seriously?

    Depending on the country's data you read, Covid is:
    • 5-10 times more contagious than Flu
    • 5-20 times more fatal than Flu

    Agree, this is far more serious than flu. I’m just saying I’m surprised that flu puts that many people in our hospitals each season. Not commenting on the comparison.


  • #4941
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Travel letter template from Reddit.


    Send it to your local TDs.
    https://www.whoismytd.com/

    Taoiseach and Minister for Foreign Affairs in one constituency. Better let on ye're all in Cork South Central for maximum effect.. :P


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  • #4942
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,533 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Travel letter template from Reddit.


    Send it to your local TDs.
    https://www.whoismytd.com/


    (by reports, none of them are isolating)



    how do you know that?


  • #4943
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    sideswipe wrote: »
    That was a Micky Mouse decision.

    It's a goofy thing to do alright.


  • #4944
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Agree, this is far more serious than flu. I’m just saying I’m surprised that flu puts that many people in our hospitals each season. Not commenting on the comparison.

    Yeah, flu is very serious for older people. I keep on nagging my Dad to get the vaccine every year, but he never does.

    Old man's friend, they used to call it. Takes you relatively quickly.


  • #4945
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    expectationlost wrote: »
    (by reports, none of them are isolating)



    how do you know that?
    We know that because of the American tourists being interviewed arriving at the airport. That's not really debatable.


  • #4946
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    This tweet is crazy, I knew flu put a strain on hospitals each year but had no idea of the actual extent in actual numbers

    https://twitter.com/care2much18/status/1282004491714342912?s=21

    I think he's being fairly selective in comparing those figures tbh. Guess flu period is over more concentrated period. There is a vaccine for it but the country doesn't have restrictions every year because of it so not sure it's an accurate comparison


  • #4947
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    igCorcaigh wrote:
    I guess it might be reasonable to suggest that shared sequences between different coronaviruses might confer some degree of immunity to covid-19 virus... I get the logic, just don't know how plausible it is.

    Prof M or Martina, any views?
    I wouldnt have any concrete opinions on that but it could be possible to be of some benefit.

    Like WUG said
    What Username Guidelines wrote:
    Yeah that’s the general theory, and even if it doesn’t confer immunity to this strain of it, coronaviruses in their nature come in varying waves with seasonal influence so that should impact it. Like most other things (long term effects, length of immunity, etc) it’s all a waiting game and observing what happens.


  • #4948
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,533 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    We know that because of the American tourists being interviewed arriving at the airport. That's not really debatable.
    where is this ? I listened to newstalk no-one said they wouldn't quarantine https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-the-pat-kenny-show/almost-10000-new-cases-texas-flight-arrives-dublin-dallas (shouldn't have travelled here anyway though)


  • #4949
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Fairly incredible how Taiwan with population of 23m has handled coronavirus. Only 6 deaths and last one on 11th May.

    Guess they benefit being an island and also learned lessons from SARS in 2004. Know they're not a member of WHO because of China but would be good if WHO could learn lessons how they handled it.

    https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1282027395625754626


  • #4950
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Fairly incredible how Taiwan with population of 23m has handled coronavirus. Only 6 deaths and last one on 11th May.

    Guess they benefit being an island and also learned lessons from SARS in 2004. Know they're not a member of WHO because of China but would be good if WHO could learn lessons how they handled it.

    https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1282027395625754626

    Yeah they treated it for what it was.
    An initial sharp lockdown would have allowed us to get back to normal. Imagine we could be in croker now?

    Our strategy of allowing anyone in means that staying home was a waste of time. Cases will build until a critical mask and we’ll be asked to ‘lockdown’ again. Kids won’t be able to go to school etc. Staycation more likely to get infected than staying home.

    Would love to spend the money I usually spend on a two week sun holiday at home down the country. There isn’t a hope I’d rent a cottage if there were a chance of US family were quarantining in it. Wouldn’t trust using the same teaspoon tbh.

    We’ve made a sacrifice and now are locked out from domestic tourist activities due to the non zero risk of interacting with someone coming from a high risk country.


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  • #4951
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    This tweet is crazy, I knew flu put a strain on hospitals each year but had no idea of the actual extent in actual numbers

    https://twitter.com/care2much18/status/1282004491714342912?s=21

    17/18 was a very bad flu season in Europe/US so nothing typical about it at all..I think excess deaths in UK and Italy that winter were the highest since WW2. So, I think he picked a particular year for this post to mkae it more dramatic.


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