F1 2020: Styrian GP (Austria, Part Zwei)

Top Dog · 10-07-2020 4:35pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

He had a deleted lap due to slightly going outside track limits of 1:04.772. Would've put him 12th, not much better than where he was.

Would have left him 0.07 behind his teammate rather than 0.9. Might not have mattered much in overall classification, but wouldn't have looked near as bad in comparison to the other team car.

El_Duderino 09 · 10-07-2020 4:41pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

In fairness it does. We can see the Ferrari upgrades have done very little in improving the car. And the other Ferrari powered cars are very slow.

Well, the claim was that Vettel finishing where he did in FP2 means he's given up.

The aero redesign was about potential for this season AND next season - because next years cars will basically be the same as this year's car. The upgrades were always going to be minimal as they're just the first iteration of the new aero development direction. The main problem is that all the Ferrari powered cars have to use a legal engine this year. Anyone who thought that the first half of the first aero package update would solve any problems was only wishful thinking.

In other words, Ferrari was slow last week and they're still slow in spite of a few new aero bits on the car. Did anyone seriously thing the car would take a big step forward with a single aero upgrade?

Inquitus · 10-07-2020 4:45pm

So Red Bull look strong, Mercedes 2019 and 2020 too, Hamilton a bit off colour, and Ferrari's upgrades are duff!

namloc1980 · 10-07-2020 4:49pm

Albon a fair bit slower than Max again. He seemed to be having issues with the car throughout FP2.

ELM327 · 10-07-2020 4:51pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

Albon a fair bit slower than Max again. He seemed to be having issues with the car throughout FP2.

I think he's just slower than max full stop.

ELM327 · 10-07-2020 5:05pm

I was watching live and didnt see that. However, as I'm WFH and watching, maybe I missed it :P

AMKC · 10-07-2020 7:54pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ah lads. He was ahead of LeClerc in FP1. It's only free practice. It means fcuk-all.

Actually this could be the starting grid for the race on Sunday so ye it does mean a lot. If nothing happens tomorrow because of the weather then this will be where they all start and I for one would have no problem with that. As for a Ferrari and Vettel been stuck between two William's It looks terrible for Ferrari but good for William's.

Top Dog · 10-07-2020 8:41pm

AMKC wrote: »

Actually this could be the starting grid for the race on Sunday so ye it does mean a lot. If nothing happens tomorrow because of the weather then this will be where they all start and I for one would have no problem with that. As for a Ferrari and Vettel been stuck between two William's It looks terrible for Ferrari but good for William's.

Not entirely true just yet. Sunday morning qualifying is currently also an option isn't it?

AMKC · 10-07-2020 8:48pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Not entirely true just yet. Sunday morning qualifying is currently also an option isn't it?

Yes I think it has been mentioned too alright.

pjohnson · 10-07-2020 8:59pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Not entirely true just yet. Sunday morning qualifying is currently also an option isn't it?

It was but the weather for Sunday morning apparently isn't much of an improvement over tomorow so thats why they may just use FP2. If conditions are bad Sunday they wont want to risk a car having a bad enough shunt in the morning that it could rule it out of the race.

skipper_G · 10-07-2020 9:01pm

Ever since somebody on here pointed out that Paul DiResta says meejum tyre, I can't stop laughing at it. I'm watching FP2 and it's hilarious

skipper_G · 11-07-2020 9:39am

Very wet for the F3 feature race

Edit: rain is so bad you can't see the cars and race has been red flagged just over half way through.

pjohnson · 11-07-2020 9:54am

skipper_G wrote: »

Very wet for the F3 feature race

Edit: rain is so bad you can't see the cars and race has been red flagged just over half way through.

This was 20mins ago EcodeBWWAAIZQIf?format=png&name=360x360

And its only set to worsen.

namloc1980 · 11-07-2020 10:53am

Start of FP3 delayed indefinitely. Likely to be cancelled altogether.

Harika · 11-07-2020 12:16pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

Start of FP3 delayed indefinitely. Likely to be cancelled altogether.

Cancelled, let's see if they try qualifying. Sunday morning will still be wet, but should dry up

Harika · 11-07-2020 12:54pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/roger_benoit/status/1281915599917023237/photo/1

Don't rush home to watch qualifying

bennyx_o · 11-07-2020 1:07pm

Rain stopped and seems much brighter now - may get some qualy running

pjohnson · 11-07-2020 1:09pm

Harika wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/roger_benoit/status/1281915599917023237/photo/1

Don't rush home to watch qualifying

Chris Medland saying a has stopped and teams are on standby. They may actually get it in on time.

Harika · 11-07-2020 1:23pm

Now might become a classic as track is drying but rain might start anytime again

bennyx_o · 11-07-2020 1:55pm

Raining again and seems quite heavy on an already wet track. Would love to see a wet qualy but suspect they'll hold off until tomorrow

ScrubsfanChris · 11-07-2020 1:55pm

Has F1 ever used those heat blowers used in Nascar/IndyCar for the water?

bennyx_o · 11-07-2020 1:57pm

Start delayed. With more rain on the way I think it'll be tomorrow before we see any action on track

Harika · 11-07-2020 2:00pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Has F1 ever used those heat blowers used in Nascar/IndyCar for the water?

No because the application is different, IndyCar uses them on ovals as humid spots are dangerous. And as long as it rains they are pointless.

namloc1980 · 11-07-2020 2:01pm

Lashing down there now. Can't see anything happening here.

Harika · 11-07-2020 2:02pm

Wetter Radar https://kachelmannwetter.com/ch/regenradar/steiermark

Track is where "Knittelfeld" is.

Inquitus · 11-07-2020 2:03pm

I guess we are likely looking at Qualifying tomorrow morning. Weather forecast says no chance of rain then.

pjohnson · 11-07-2020 2:08pm

The TV copter is up in the air so should be good.

Andrew76 · 11-07-2020 2:09pm

Just let the grid be decided by FP2 - I can't listen to anymore of that arrogant prat Ted Kravitz.

Jordan 199 · 11-07-2020 2:12pm

I love the shade of grass there. A nice rich green.

AMKC · 11-07-2020 2:16pm

FP2 it is for the grid then. Qualifying tomorrow does not interest me.

quokula · 11-07-2020 2:18pm

I miss the times when they used to race in this weather and let the drivers earn their salaries.

AMKC · 11-07-2020 2:22pm

Alonso or Jenson would not have had a problem racing or qualifying with some rain.

pjohnson · 11-07-2020 2:29pm

quokula wrote: »

I miss the times when they used to race in this weather and let the drivers earn their salaries.

Its nothing to do with drivers. Its actually safety. The medical chopper currently cannot safely clear the mountains to make it to Graz. If a driver needed to get to hospital they'd just be stuck on the track.

namloc1980 · 11-07-2020 2:40pm

And here we go!

weekaizer · 11-07-2020 2:43pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

And here we go!

I’m pleasantly shocked. Really looked wet when safety car was circulating.

Cool_CM · 11-07-2020 2:47pm

Wonder how long this will last...

Top Dog · 11-07-2020 2:50pm

This could be eventful with everyone on track to get a time on the board

pjohnson · 11-07-2020 2:50pm

Nice of Grosjean to get completely off track to avoid slowing Vettel :pac:

BikeRacer · 11-07-2020 2:52pm

The Williams lads are loving this

Faugheen · 11-07-2020 2:53pm

This is great!

Cool_CM · 11-07-2020 3:04pm

Red flag. They did well to get that far into the session!

Faugheen · 11-07-2020 3:05pm

Well done George Russell!

weekaizer · 11-07-2020 3:06pm

Massive disappointment for Perez... must have very little downforce on car. Well done mr. Russell.

skipper_G · 11-07-2020 3:07pm

Russell into Q2, did well.

Perez was disappointing, car has looked good all weekend. At least Stroll managed to get through so still hope for something from the weekend.

Charlie-Bravo · 11-07-2020 3:08pm

Nice job by Russell. The Williams car is better set up than Racing point for wet weather.

Hopefully the rain comes down heavier when Merc haven't got a hot lap in.

namloc1980 · 11-07-2020 3:12pm

Very disappointing for Perez. That car hates the wet.

SureYWouldntYa · 11-07-2020 3:13pm

I know its not relevant now cause of the wet conditions

But in dry conditions why is it Q2 tyres are the ones used by the top 10 when they qualify? Why not Q3?

Faugheen · 11-07-2020 3:17pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

I know its not relevant now cause of the wet conditions

But in dry conditions why is it Q2 tyres are the ones used by the top 10 when they qualify? Why not Q3?

The top 10 get a qualifying only extra set for Q3 so they can go flat out. That set is given back at the end of the session.

skipper_G · 11-07-2020 3:17pm

Amazing to the difference on that onboard shot in Stroll's driving style from wet to dry. Nice and smooth with the steering input, in normal conditions he's always busy sawing at the wheel

SureYWouldntYa · 11-07-2020 3:19pm

Faugheen wrote: »

The top 10 get a qualifying only extra set for Q3 so they can go flat out. That set is given back at the end of the session.

Is that the only reason? So they will go flat out in Q3?

It seems a bit punishing, being 11 or 12 on the grid with free choice and new tyres is much better than 9 or 10 with old tyres

F1 2020: Styrian GP (Austria, Part Zwei)

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