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  • #452
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    tanko wrote: »
    Yeah i’d Imagine that would be grand.

    I vaccinate here every year so i’ll stick with that.
    Doing that for the first time this year (have been intended in awhile)
    When and what will you use?


  • #453
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Doing that for the first time this year (have been intended in awhile)
    When and what will you use?

    Use Rispoval 3 every year.
    2 injections 3-4 weeks apart, the second one a month before wearing.
    I think it costs about €12/calf.


  • #454
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    These are the ones we use.

    http://www.hpra.ie/img/uploaded/swedocuments/Licence_VPA10996-152-001_25102018125044.pdf
    SC Inj - repeated again 4 weeks later.

    http://www.hpra.ie/img/uploaded/swedocuments/Licence_VPA10996-172-001_09082017112609.pdf
    As this one is a live vaccine all in the same group have to be vaccinated.
    IM injection - cover lasts 6 months.


  • #455
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    https://www.thatsfarming.com/news/beep-vaccination-programme


  • #456
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Lime Tree Farm wrote: »
    These are the ones we use.

    http://www.hpra.ie/img/uploaded/swedocuments/Licence_VPA10996-152-001_25102018125044.pdf
    SC Inj - repeated again 4 weeks later.

    http://www.hpra.ie/img/uploaded/swedocuments/Licence_VPA10996-172-001_09082017112609.pdf
    As this one is a live vaccine all in the same group have to be vaccinated.
    IM injection - cover lasts 6 months.

    Will be using the dead vaccine Option
    Intend to sell first weanlings end of Sep, I’d want to be giving first vaccine end of this Month so


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  • #457
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,787 ✭✭✭893bet


    All done. 4 hrs including collecting and dropping scales back.

    Just realised one cow has two calves on the list on ICBF.......might as well stick them in....twill prob be taken off at some stage


  • #458
    ABitofsense
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    What is a good Vs average ADG? I'm trying to find some info around it


  • #459
    SuperTeeJay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭SuperTeeJay


    ABitofsense wrote: »
    What is a good Vs average ADG? I'm trying to find some info around it
    Best of my bulls this year and last weighed 1.4 to 1.5kg/day.Ave would be 1.25/1.3/day.
    Heifers tops would be 1.3 to 1.35 kg/day and average would be 1.2/day.
    The lowest weights I find are from 1 and 2 star cows.They might look like they are good calves but could be weighing 0.3kg /day below the average.


  • #460
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Tagging deadline is moved to later in the year.
    https://twitter.com/farmersjournal/status/1280885716533293056?s=19


  • #461
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    Tagging deadline is moved to later in the year.
    https://twitter.com/farmersjournal/status/1280885716533293056?s=19

    Just typical
    Had to help a friend on Sunday


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  • #462
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Typical indeed! I tagged one quiet fella in the field & a few w*nkers in the crush, only got a few tags as we hadn't enough born when they were sent out.
    Of course they then chose the crackers heifers with the final selections a fortnight ago so I changed to three pb bulls for hair samples instead. Was doing Rambo moves out the field to get them all and only got the last fella Monday & sent them off today.

    Find the hair samples much easier if you've halfway quiet cattle. Get the calves while sucking or sneak up on them quietly.


  • #463
    sonnybill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Typical indeed! I tagged one quiet fella in the field & a few w*nkers in the crush, only got a few tags as we hadn't enough born when they were sent out.
    Of course they then chose the crackers heifers with the final selections a fortnight ago so I changed to three pb bulls for hair samples instead. Was doing Rambo moves out the field to get them all and only got the last fella Monday & sent them off today.

    Find the hair samples much easier if you've halfway quiet cattle. Get the calves while sucking or sneak up on them quietly.

    Hard enough to pull the short hair from tip of tails of young calves though , can’t get a wrap around the finger like a cows tail


  • #464
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    sonnybill wrote: »
    Hard enough to pull the short hair from tip of tails of young calves though , can’t get a wrap around the finger like a cows tail

    Pliers! Took a whole curl off one poor chap :pac:


  • #465
    Bellview
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭Bellview


    ABitofsense wrote: »
    What is a good Vs average ADG? I'm trying to find some info around it

    All Angus for me the bulls averaged 1.2 a day with top lads at 1.4. What I find great is this helps identify cows whose milk has lost its power.. for example I have a cow that always had Bull calves at 1.4 to 1.5 Add.. this year 1.1.. she is 12 now.. she is in calf and probably next calf will be her final one .. if she has a heifer she will stay as he other 2 daughters are great breeding cows as well

    Stars And calf performance in my place are irrelevant.. the 2 and 3 stars cows are sticking up 1.3 plus a day on their calves. but they are off a stock bull that icbf stars did not like ..

    It would be useful if icbf were to screw up stars on cows that calf only gains Ie 0.7 A day as regardless of cow size these cows are costing money as calves must be fed etc


  • #466
    jfh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭jfh


    Anyone do the faecal egg testing yet? Is there any preferred time to do this, I only dose sucklers after housing so presumably any time before this?


  • #467
    High bike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭High bike


    jfh wrote: »
    Anyone do the faecal egg testing yet? Is there any preferred time to do this, I only dose sucklers after housing so presumably any time before this?
    you have until November to do it


  • #468
    RD10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭RD10


    jfh wrote: »
    Anyone do the faecal egg testing yet? Is there any preferred time to do this, I only dose sucklers after housing so presumably any time before this?

    I was just wondering about this yesterday, can they be sample tested now? Had dosed cows at turnout, few of them gone very scuthery and one breathing a bit heavy at times so wondering if there could be some type of fluke there. Would like to get cracking on it


  • #469
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    RD10 wrote: »
    I was just wondering about this yesterday, can they be sample tested now? Had dosed cows at turnout, few of them gone very scuthery and one breathing a bit heavy at times so wondering if there could be some type of fluke there. Would like to get cracking on it

    Yes, we’ve it done


  • #470
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Yes, we’ve it done

    What do they test for, is it liver fluke and rumen fluke?


  • #471
    Aravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Aravo


    tanko wrote: »
    What do they test for, is it liver fluke and rumen fluke?

    All your individual samples that you take are actually pooled together for testing and you get group results for liver fluke and also for rumen fluke.


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  • #472
    jfh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭jfh


    Attached is the approved labs, I'm going to call one today to ask them to send out containers, will know then if individual or pooled


  • #473
    Hard Knocks
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    tanko wrote: »
    What do they test for, is it liver fluke and rumen fluke?
    Rumen & liver fluke
    We were low for both


  • #474
    lab man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    How did ye send the samples I done mine here yesterday but dunno do they go by post or have I to use a courier ?


  • #475
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    lab man wrote: »
    How did ye send the samples I done mine here yesterday but dunno do they go by post or have I to use a courier ?
    I rang Oldcastle and they arranged Courier
    Just remember Couriers are very busy


  • #476
    josephsoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    I recently bought 3 cows with calves born this spring, any one know if they would also be eligible for payment under the beep-s scheme ?


  • #477
    Sugarbowl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    You can check your list of eligible animals under Beep on ICBF


  • #478
    Green&Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    josephsoap wrote: »
    I recently bought 3 cows with calves born this spring, any one know if they would also be eligible for payment under the beep-s scheme ?
    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    You can check your list of eligible animals under Beep on ICBF

    As sugar bowl says check them on ICBF, you'll see then if they are eligible. They may be eligible but not have a genotype taken in which case you'll have to pay the €22 per cow to test them.
    Double check the eligibility date also, I think its 2016, older than that and they won't be eligible


  • #479
    Green&Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Does the weight recording need to be done through ICBF or can it be done through agfood?

    A computer illiterate neighbour has an agfood account but I doubt he has ICBF. Had a quick look but couldn't see anything on agfood


  • #480
    Bellview
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭Bellview


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Does the weight recording need to be done through ICBF or can it be done through agfood?

    A computer illiterate neighbour has an agfood account but I doubt he has ICBF. Had a quick look but couldn't see anything on agfood

    Icbf .. can download app.. I did it for father in law no problem. Just need password for icbf account


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  • #481
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Does the weight recording need to be done through ICBF or can it be done through agfood?

    A computer illiterate neighbour has an agfood account but I doubt he has ICBF. Had a quick look but couldn't see anything on agfood

    When he books the scales ICBF will post him out the paperwork to record the weights manually and post them back afaik.
    I don’t think you can record weights on Agfood.

    Can farmers who haven’t got herdplus record the weights on ICBF.com??


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