Beep scheme - anyone joining

Hard Knocks

lab man wrote: »

Stupid question but anyway ... wat did ye collect the dung sample in and where did year send it to

I used Oldcastle labs
They sent out a small pot

pure breed

High bike wrote:

i think that too 10 cows only

We are going to leave the dung samples till weighing the spring born calves in September / October. Dunno if that's right or wrong?

Aravo

Oldcastle lab are e25 to test the 10 samples. They will send out the containers. Have herd test coming up so plan to do the dung samples then. One less job to do down the line.

893bet

Aravo wrote: »

Oldcastle lab are e25 to test the 10 samples. They will send out the containers. Have herd test coming up so plan to do the dung samples then. One less job to do down the line.

25 per sample? That ain’t cheap.

Green&Red

The crowd in elphin are €15

Aravo

893bet wrote: »

25 per sample? That ain’t cheap.

e25 for 10 samples, 2.50 per sample. Oldcastle do the BVD here so am happy to stick with them.

Have the dung samples to be special post like the BVD samples

Green&Red

Green&Red wrote: »

The crowd in elphin are €15

Aravo wrote: »

e25 for 10 samples, 2.50 per sample. Oldcastle do the BVD here so am happy to stick with them.

Have the dung samples to be special post like the BVD samples

As above, the 10 are for €15 in Elphin

High bike

pure breed wrote: »

We are going to leave the dung samples till weighing the spring born calves in September / October. Dunno if that's right or wrong?

same here herd test in a months time and do it all in the one day

charolais0153

High bike wrote: »

same here herd test in a months time and do it all in the one day

Very easy do dung sample in a field, cattle all lying down, walk up to them, they stand up and shiit, very easy

Hard Knocks

charolais0153 wrote: »

Very easy do dung sample in a field, cattle all lying down, walk up to them, they stand up and shiit, very easy

That’s it & then you can dose at herd test

High bike

Does anyone know if Enfer Labs test the dung samples,I send my bvd samples there

ABitofsense

charolais0153 wrote: »

Very easy do dung sample in a field, cattle all lying down, walk up to them, they stand up and shiit, very easy

Did this yesterday evening, just takes a bit of patience. It took 45min for 10 from the 19 i have to go!

Samples sent back this morning so be interesting to see the results

Base price

High bike wrote: »

Does anyone know if Enfer Labs test the dung samples,I send my bvd samples there

AFAIK they don't do dung samples. I also send our bvd sample there but send dung samples to Oldcastle labs. I suppose I should send the bvd's to Oldcastle but it's hard to change a habit.

Sugarbowl

Do we just go away and order a dung test from one of the labs? Is there any other formality to be done on ICBF etc to submit that we have done it?

minerleague

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Do we just go away and order a dung test from one of the labs? Is there any other formality to be done on ICBF etc to submit that we have done it?

rang Animal health labs bandon ( do my bvd) 25 euro and they send U the test kit

pure breed

Sugarbowl wrote:

Do we just go away and order a dung test from one of the labs? Is there any other formality to be done on ICBF etc to submit that we have done it?

Looks like it.
I Rang the Dept about Beep s and there is a voice message saying they aren't taking calls about Beep Scheme due to Covid 19, sent a email. Not much good asking my oul lad and similar to him to send an email. lazy!!!!

Green&Red

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Do we just go away and order a dung test from one of the labs? Is there any other formality to be done on ICBF etc to submit that we have done it?

Elphin told me they notify the department

High bike

Base price wrote: »

AFAIK they don't do dung samples. I also send our bvd sample there but send dung samples to Oldcastle labs. I suppose I should send the bvd's to Oldcastle but it's hard to change a habit.

Your right they don’t I rang this morning,got on to the Equine Centre 22 e for the 10 samples including postage results in 24 hrs

Aravo

Got my sample bottles from Oldcastle. They are huge each one holds 100ml. The dept. Docs state a heaped teaspoonful of material per sample. Home much is needed to test a sample. I ain't fillings the things or half filling them. Would 30ml be enough. I see it cost approx. e15 to courier out the empty bottles to me.
Anyone used Oldcastle recently

TPF2012

I have entered the scheme and just wondering on something. I have had my last 2 cows calf there during week and that means both cow will have 2 calves in the reference period as they both had calves last July. Will I get paid for 2 calves to one cow. Still have the July 2019 calves on Farm.

High bike

TPF2012 wrote: »

I have entered the scheme and just wondering on something. I have had my last 2 cows calf there during week and that means both cow will have 2 calves in the reference period as they both had calves last July. Will I get paid for 2 calves to one cow. Still have the July 2019 calves on Farm.

f they calved twice in the reference period don't see why not, sure just weigh em and see what happens

Aravo

TPF2012 wrote: »

I have entered the scheme and just wondering on something. I have had my last 2 cows calf there during week and that means both cow will have 2 calves in the reference period as they both had calves last July. Will I get paid for 2 calves to one cow. Still have the July 2019 calves on Farm.

From T&C's weighing Requirement 2 - Unweaned live calf and dam to be weighed on same day.

High bike

Aravo wrote: »

From T&C's weighing Requirement 2 - Unweaned live calf and dam to be weighed on same day.

well that answers that question

Hard Knocks

Aravo wrote: »

Got my sample bottles from Oldcastle. They are huge each one holds 100ml. The dept. Docs state a heaped teaspoonful of material per sample. Home much is needed to test a sample. I ain't fillings the things or half filling them. Would 30ml be enough. I see it cost approx. e15 to courier out the empty bottles to me.
Anyone used Oldcastle recently

Used them, very satisfied
It costs €15 to courier back too unless you use post office
If using Courier give Oldcastle a days notice as Couriers are very busy

I filled the cup from 1 cow, that’s all we needed

jfh

TPF2012 wrote: »

I have entered the scheme and just wondering on something. I have had my last 2 cows calf there during week and that means both cow will have 2 calves in the reference period as they both had calves last July. Will I get paid for 2 calves to one cow. Still have the July 2019 calves on Farm.

I'm nearly sure that I got paid on a few like this last year

irishguy19772

Can I just ask about last year's cows. If they are already weaned last Oct, what is the reason for collecting data on them this year?

Magic A

Green&Red wrote: »

You can see them the next day, I did it last year. You’ll need to take the dung sample before you sell I’d imagine

Also if you have selected the meal feeding option you have to feed meal 4 weeks before weaning and 2 weeks after

893bet

irishguy19772 wrote: »

Can I just ask about last year's cows. If they are already weaned last Oct, what is the reason for collecting data on them this year?

If they weaned last October surely they have another calf at foot at this point?

If not they should be hanging up.

irishguy19772

No. They are due to calve in next few weeks. My question is I have 5 calves from cows this year that need weaning. I also have 2 from last year that seem to be part of the scheme, but since they are already weaned should I just exclude then?

Hard Knocks

irishguy19772 wrote: »

No. They are due to calve in next few weeks. My question is I have 5 calves from cows this year that need weaning. I also have 2 from last year that seem to be part of the scheme, but since they are already weaned should I just exclude then?

Exclude nothing
Weigh everything, maybe now & later in the year
2 calves is €180
Maybe you might not be paid on them, but if you exclude you’ll definitely not be paid