Beep scheme - anyone joining

bogman_bass · 23-06-2020 05:13PM

The worst that will happen is you’ll know how your calves are performing.

Bellview · 23-06-2020 06:06PM

irishguy19772 wrote: »

No. They are due to calve in next few weeks. My question is I have 5 calves from cows this year that need weaning. I also have 2 from last year that seem to be part of the scheme, but since they are already weaned should I just exclude then?

I had similar last year with a few and weighed they were only weaned a short while so no big difference

Micey.ie · 23-06-2020 06:12PM

If you are recording weights on ICBF,you will see what animals are eligible at present for the scheme.
It was another ill thought scheme where closing date was 15th May,where calves born in July August and September last year would have been weaned off cows by closing date by a lot of farmers.
The weaning part of the scheme is very vague-there doesn’t appear anywhere to record weaning date or introduce meal feeding.The previous scheme had dates to record this and you were penalised if you sold weanlings that weren’t at least 2 weeks off cow.

dohc turbo2 · 23-06-2020 06:23PM

Micey.ie wrote: »

If you are recording weights on ICBF,you will see what animals are eligible at present for the scheme.
It was another ill thought scheme where closing date was 15th May,where calves born in July August and September last year would have been weaned off cows by closing date by a lot of farmers.
The weaning part of the scheme is very vague-there doesn’t appear anywhere to record weaning date or introduce meal feeding.The previous scheme had dates to record this and you were penalised if you sold weanlings that weren’t at least 2 weeks off cow.

Just says u need weaning dates and invoices , how much ration per animal is very vague by them

Bellview · 23-06-2020 10:37PM

Is there any minimum age that the calves must reach before being sold.. as I plan on moving a few at 8 months

tanko · 23-06-2020 10:59PM

Bellview wrote: »

Is there any minimum age that the calves must reach before being sold.. as I plan on moving a few at 8 months

I don’t think there’s a minimum age but they prefer them weighed between 150-250 days old i think, 8 months old is fine anyway as long as you weigh each cow and unweaned calf unit on the same day.

ABitofsense · 23-06-2020 11:15PM

tanko wrote: »

I don’t think there’s a minimum age but they prefer them weighed between 150-250 days old i think, 8 months old is fine anyway as long as you weigh each cow and unweaned calf unit on the same day.

Where did you see the 150-250 days? I was going to weigh next week when I'm dosing. Calves born from March to May

tanko · 24-06-2020 12:09AM

ABitofsense wrote: »

Where did you see the 150-250 days? I was going to weigh next week when I'm dosing. Calves born from March to May

Checked the t&c’s, there’s no mention of it, I must have been thinking of last years scheme.

For this years scheme it says that the dept will write to farmers suggesting a 4 week window in which they would like us to weigh calves and cows but there doesn’t seem to be any penalty if weighing is done outside this window.

lab man · 24-06-2020 06:29AM

Base price wrote: »

AFAIK they don't do dung samples. I also send our bvd sample there but send dung samples to Oldcastle labs. I suppose I should send the bvd's to Oldcastle but it's hard to change a habit.

They're not doing the dung sample as the government have them doing corvid 19 tests a lady from there told me there on Friday when I was looking for test pots she told me to ring old castle too

Bellview · 24-06-2020 08:08AM

ABitofsense wrote: »

Where did you see the 150-250 days? I was going to weigh next week when I'm dosing. Calves born from March to May

I think it’s preferred they are weighed between 200 to 300 days .. but not a condition for payment as last year I weighed a lad that was 6 weeks old and I got paid

Anto_Meath · 24-06-2020 12:06PM

Yes 3 of mine last year were not old enough & then excluded from ths performance report but I still got paid on them all.

High bike · 24-06-2020 11:49PM

Have a scales ordered on the ICBF site for 8th July but need to change it and cant see a facility on the site to do it, does anyone know if it can be done on line or do I ring about it??

tanko · 25-06-2020 12:05AM

High bike wrote: »

Have a scales ordered on the ICBF site for 8th July but need to change it and cant see a facility on the site to do it, does anyone know if it can be done on line or do I ring about it??

I don’t know if you can do it online but if you ring the place you’re getting the scales from they should be able to change it for you.

Wes Palmer Lee · 26-06-2020 11:15AM

Do you need to be registered with ICBF?

Hard Knocks · 26-06-2020 11:54AM

Wes Palmer Lee wrote: »

Do you need to be registered with ICBF?

No, they’ll send you out the paperwork
It is easier if you have herdplus but it’s €60/yr

Hard Knocks · 29-06-2020 05:35PM

If a cow has twins but 1 is born dead
Are you paid on both or just the live calf?

Sugarbowl · 29-06-2020 06:51PM

I’d say just the live calf. I had a still born calf here and the cow did not qualify for payment.

ABitofsense · 02-07-2020 07:50PM

Did the weighing today. Very interesting to see differences between cows & different bulls. My first 2 calves lodge Hamlet & knell at 205kg & 195kg at 112 days. Cows only 554kg & 620kg

Hard Knocks · 02-07-2020 08:53PM

ABitofsense wrote: »

Did the weighing today. Very interesting to see differences between cows & different bulls. My first 2 calves lodge Hamlet & knell at 205kg & 195kg at 112 days. Cows only 554kg & 620kg

Are they first calvers?

ABitofsense · 02-07-2020 09:44PM

Cow hex with lodge Hamlet a 2nd Calver & other with knell first Calver aax.

Sugarbowl · 03-07-2020 08:40AM

I’ve the weighing done here too. The heifers are outperforming the bulls....
A SA heifer off a 3 star white head cow was 191 kg after 98 days with ADG of 1.53.

A CH heifer off a 5 star Saler cow with great milk was 182 kg after 84 days with ADG of 1.63

Use AI so all dates of births are accurate here. Had already picked them out as replacements so delighted with how they were going.

annubis · 03-07-2020 09:04AM

what about the meal and weaning date etc, doesnt seem to be any option to add this info to the icbf site as of yet anyway

tanko · 03-07-2020 09:16AM

Keep receipts for any meal you buy, i assume they’ll have to be sent in at some stage.

tellmeabit · 03-07-2020 05:07PM

Where can I see the date that I'm to weigh them or is it a time after July 1st

893bet · 03-07-2020 06:14PM

tellmeabit wrote: »

Where can I see the date that I'm to weigh them or is it a time after July 1st

You can weight them when ever as long as they are born before the first of July and are unweaned.

I am weighing tomorrow as there are a few from late last year that are approaching weaning.

High bike · 03-07-2020 06:48PM

tanko wrote: »

Keep receipts for any meal you buy, i assume they’ll have to be sent in at some stage.

there doesn’t seem to be any minimum amount of meal to be fed,just before and after weaning is that right?

tellmeabit · 03-07-2020 07:36PM

893bet wrote: »

You can weight them when ever as long as they are born before the first of July and are unweaned.

I am weighing tomorrow as there are a few from late last year that are approaching weaning.

Thanks. Mine are March April and a couple over the last few days snuck in. I'll probably weigh them asap.
Thanks

tanko · 03-07-2020 08:03PM

High bike wrote: »

there doesn’t seem to be any minimum amount of meal to be fed,just before and after weaning is that right?

It says that enough should be fed to give an adequate level of nutrition.
It’s a bit vague.

High bike · 03-07-2020 08:17PM

tanko wrote: »

It says that enough should be fed to give an adequate level of nutrition.
It’s a bit vague.

so I suppose 1 to 2 kgs a day?

tanko · 03-07-2020 08:24PM

High bike wrote: »

so I suppose 1 to 2 kgs a day?

Yeah i’d Imagine that would be grand.

I vaccinate here every year so i’ll stick with that.

Beep scheme - anyone joining

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