Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

tom1ie wrote: »

If the US is a risk why is the UK not? Rioting and protests on multiple nights in multiple cities.
In Ireland we’ve had multiple protests across cork and Dublin. Think there was one in limerick too?
Let’s not forget Brazil and also across Europe where we have seen protests in France Belgium Germany etc etc.

I tend to answer questions people ask! US have had almost a fortnight of it and they've still got a high level of the disease, so definitely a higher risk.

The WHOs special envoy has told the Dail to tell Irish people they must wear face coverings.

https://twitter.com/independent_ie/status/1271026011539419136?s=21

Boggles wrote: »

The New Zealand is in the middle of now where theory as the main reason it eradicated the virus is complete nonsense.

Not complete nonsense.

At the core of it, we know that the less interconnected a country is, the less footfall from affected regions, the less it will be affected in return.

Like New Zealand, Slovakia has relatively little visitor traffic from the main affected areas compared to many others, and it has good control over its borders.

It may be landlocked, but it has only ~30 border crossings with its neighbours, all of whom in turn had a strong Covid response.

So having 2000km of water between New Zealand and its nearest neighbour, as well as a tiny visitor footprint from affected areas, is one of the core factors in their success.

Ireland by comparison has nearly 300 land border crossings with our nearest neighbour, who also happens to be one of the worst affected in the world. And 70% of our visitors come from the UK, North America, Spain, France & Italy; all of the worse affected regions in the world.

We could have done better, of course we could. But it's not possible that we could have replicated NZ's success and we certainly would not be engaging in a complete reopen even if we'd had zero cases for two weeks.

The_Brood wrote: »

I am going by the New Cases stats here https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Statistics can be tricky.. For instance it looks like the virus is increasing very fast in Sweden now, but it's because they're only now starting to test mild cases in the primary care. There's no reason to believe the virus is actually spreading more/faster over the last week, but if you look at something like worldometer it will give that kind of impression.

I think it's same in many countries, testing is getting wider... It's better to look at ICU cases and deaths rather than 'confirmed cases'.

iamwhoiam wrote: »

As a matter of interest does anyone know the criteria when tracing contacts . Is it only contacts that were less than two metres away or would friends you met outdoors at 2 metres count as a contact ?

I expect they basically ask you to try and list all of the people you came into contact with; distanced or not; during a few specific days and then they assess whether or not it's worth tracing them.

Details on the process here, but it doesn't list any specific criteria:
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/testing/contact-tracing.html

I expect that e.g. if you said that you met someone outside for 3 hours and kept your distance, they'd probably be ranked higher risk than stopping by a sibling for a five minute chat with 1m between you.

seamus wrote: »

I expect they basically ask you to try and list all of the people you came into contact with; distanced or not; during a few specific days and then they assess whether or not it's worth tracing them.

Details on the process here, but it doesn't list any specific criteria:
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/testing/contact-tracing.html

I expect that e.g. if you said that you met someone outside for 3 hours and kept your distance, they'd probably be ranked higher risk than stopping by a sibling for a five minute chat with 1m between you.

Thank you , I guess its up to them to decide once you submit your contacts

Widdensushi wrote: »

Was he wearing a mask

Given it was an online session I’m guessing not.

is_that_so wrote: »

Nope, loive from Geneva!

Very ‘Apres Match’

eigrod wrote: »

R rate still well under 1.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1271068667644719104?s=21

Prof Nolan said himself last week, with cases so low the interval will widen, its very difficult to estimate R with low cases

eigrod wrote: »

Yep. Must be very difficult to estimate now with so little of it in the community. Encouraging figure nonetheless, especially with hospital and ICU figures going down this week also.

Yeah exactly, everything going thr right way a few weeks into reopening

Snickers Man wrote: »

USA has overtaken Ireland in terms of "Total deaths per million for the first time" according to Worldometers.

America's rate is now 348 per million; Ireland's 343.

Of course this might be helped by the fact that we are dealing with yesterday's figures and Ireland hasn't reported todays' yet but for us to bypass the US, we would have to have, by my calculations, 21 deaths today. And the daily rate has been well below that for some time now.

So a country of 350 million people has a higher per capita death rate on this issue than a country of 5 million! They should be ashamed of themselves.

I find it hard to believe they're only overtaking us now - do we report in the same way? They're probably not comparable.

Snickers Man wrote: »

USA has overtaken Ireland in terms of "Total deaths per million for the first time" according to Worldometers.

America's rate is now 348 per million; Ireland's 343.

Of course this might be helped by the fact that we are dealing with yesterday's figures and Ireland hasn't reported todays' yet but for us to bypass the US, we would have to have, by my calculations, 21 deaths today. And the daily rate has been well below that for some time now.

So a country of 350 million people has a higher per capita death rate on this issue than a country of 5 million! They should be ashamed of themselves.

Why should a bigger country be ashamed of the same level of deaths just because they are a bigger country?