Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

The_Brood · 10-06-2020 05:43PM

I am confused. Almost everyone in Europe is on the verge of travel and vacation ready to go...RyanAir is practically shoving people into planes....but there are hundreds and hundreds of new cases every day in Germany, Italy, Ukraine etc. all over. In other countries its actively rising, in Eastern Europe etc. The virus is rising again after the restrictions are lifted. But I'm not seeing much news about it.

What's going on exactly. I just don't know who to ask or what to do in terms of travel later this summer.

retro:electro · 10-06-2020 05:43PM

Even Tony said on Monday he expects the numbers to go up from 9 but it’s still all part of a downward trend.
Relax will ye.

normanoffside · 10-06-2020 05:45PM

Arghus wrote: »

He was taking the piss.

Correct!
Just because numbers raised by 2.1 times day on day does not mean the spread is growing.
More likely they just caught a small cluster that had been missed or did a few random tests in a meat factory.

ACitizenErased · 10-06-2020 05:47PM

Reminder too that the number of average contacts actually rose significantly Saturday and Sunday and then plummetted Monday. No doubt that some of them have their results today.

The_Brood · 10-06-2020 05:47PM

hellomyfriends wrote: »

The virus is not rising again in Europe.

Check your facts.

I am going by the New Cases stats here https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

is_that_so · 10-06-2020 05:48PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So HIQA knew there was problems in 2018 sat on the NPHET committee but said nothing? What was Harris's excuse not to meet until weeks after a request for a meeting was made by NHI considering their clients were the most vulnerable in society? Nothing but ass covering going on.
One of the state run facilities was among the worst hit. 26 fatalities I believe.

It's all a grand game of fire the parcel at the nearest person and there is a bewildering array of players. One can fixate on finding a culprit or one can get a system in place that everyone in that sector must follow.

If you're referring to the Dundalk home, that's private and they got caught in a perfect storm of COVID-19, staff illness and absenteeism. They were taken over by a hospital group.

Utopia Parkway · 10-06-2020 05:48PM

Denmark says easing lockdown has not caused increase in Covid-19 infections

6/10/2020

Denmark, the first country in Europe to relax its coronavirus lockdown said on Wednesday that the spread of Covid-19 has not accelerated since it eased restrictions and began the second phase of reopening society last month.

"The level of contagion in society is still very low," the Danish health authority said in a report in Wednesday, according to Reuters news agency.

It added that the number of confirmed new infections had continued to fall despite more tests being carried out.

In April Denmark became the first country to reopen its schools and daycare centres and the following month bars and restaurants and shopping centres were allowed to resume business.

"There is no sign yet of noticeable changes in the extent of contagion despite the gradual reopening of society in April and early May," the report said.

ACitizenErased · 10-06-2020 05:50PM

I'm not sure why we haven't expanded our testing yet. 19,000 taken last week out of the 100k capacity. We really need to start testing workplaces, regions, nursing homes again, etc.

MerlinSouthDub · 10-06-2020 05:55PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm not sure why we haven't expanded our testing yet. 19,000 taken last week out of the 100k capacity. We really need to start testing workplaces, regions, nursing homes again, etc.

Agreed. Seems mad not to be using some of the capacity with random testing. Someone suggested that all childcare workers should be tested before they return to work and that makes sense to me.

growleaves · 10-06-2020 05:56PM

East Asian countries are a completely different conversation because they have experienced pandemics in the recent past.

And now so have we, and we can emulate these East Asian countries in the future instead of emulating China's policy with its mixed results in terms of deaths and horrible destructive side-effects, and put lockdown behind us forever.

nocoverart · 10-06-2020 05:58PM

hellomyfriends wrote: »

The virus is not rising again in Europe.

Check your facts.

Correct! some idiots in this place.

bb1234567 · 10-06-2020 05:59PM

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/06/10/new-covid-19-cases-double-again-in-spain-but-no-fatalities-for-4th-consecutive-day/

No deaths in Spain for 4th consecutive day in a row, it sounds a bit hard to believe since even small countries with very well controlled outbreaks like Ireland czech republic greece finland denmark etc are still reporting at least 1-4 deaths or so most days, while most countries of similar size to spain are still reporting dozens daily. But great news if true..

ACitizenErased · 10-06-2020 05:59PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/06/10/new-covid-19-cases-double-again-in-spain-but-no-fatalities-for-4th-consecutive-day/

No deaths in Spain for 4th consecutive day in a row, it sounds a bit hard to believe since even small countries with very well controlled outbreaks like Ireland czech republic greece finland denmark etc are still reporting at least 1-4 deaths or so most days, while most countries of similar size to spain are still reporting dozens daily. But great news if true..

I'm finding it hard to believe Spain's numbers.

growleaves · 10-06-2020 06:00PM

As for the USA all 50 states introduced restrictions.

So did Sweden, of a kind. But not all 50 States had what we call lockdowns.

What Username Guidelines · 10-06-2020 06:01PM

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1270773923286847488?s=20

Anyone know if they released an exact figure for recoveries tonight?

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm finding it hard to believe Spain's numbers.

Theyre fiddling alright, apparently they'll only report deaths in the previous 24hrs now, but it usually takes >24hrs to notify them of a death so it'll always be very few or, more often than not, 0.. Not sure why

ACitizenErased · 10-06-2020 06:06PM

Analysis of cases as of midnight Monday 8th June - 25,212 (+6)

Healthcare Workers +12
Clusters -5
Cases associated with clusters +35

Age Ranges Affected
0-4 No Change
5-14 -1
15-24 +2
25-34 -1
35-44 +1
45-54 +2
55-64 +3
65-74 -1
75-84 No Change
85+ +1

How COVID-19 is spreading
Community Tranmission 38% (-0.46%)
Close Contacts 60% (+0.83%)
Travel Abroad 2% (-0.29%)

Counties
Carlow +1
Cork +2
Donegal -1
Dublin +4

22 counties with 0 cases - a new record

lbj666 · 10-06-2020 06:17PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Analysis of cases as of midnight Monday 8th June - 25,212 (+6)

Healthcare Workers +12
Clusters -5
Cases associated with clusters +35

Age Ranges Affected
0-4 No Change
5-14 -1
15-24 +2
25-34 -1
35-44 +1
45-54 +2
55-64 +3
65-74 -1
75-84 No Change
85+ +1

How COVID-19 is spreading
Community Tranmission 38% (-0.46%)
Close Contacts 60% (+0.83%)
Travel Abroad 2% (-0.29%)

Counties
Carlow +1
Cork +2
Donegal -1
Dublin +4

22 counties with 0 cases - a new record

Does that mean new case are predominately in healthcare settings at this point?

ACitizenErased · 10-06-2020 06:19PM

lbj666 wrote: »

Does that mean new case are predominately in healthcare settings at this point?

Including today there has been 67 healthcare worker cases analysed in the 5 days.

Rob A. Bank · 10-06-2020 06:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Analysis of cases as of midnight Monday 8th June - 25,212 (+6)

Counties
Carlow +1
Cork +2
Donegal -1
Dublin +4

22 counties with 0 cases - a new record

Donegal was a -1 so it's even better 23 counties with 0 cases.... absolutely fantastic !

Plumbthedepths · 10-06-2020 06:20PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's all a grand game of fire the parcel at the nearest person and there is a bewildering array of players. One can fixate on finding a culprit or one can get a system in place that everyone in that sector must follow.

If you're referring to the Dundalk home, that's private and they got caught in a perfect storm of COVID-19, staff illness and absenteeism. They were taken over by a hospital group.

I'm referring to St Mary's in Phoenix park. State run.

nocoverart · 10-06-2020 06:22PM

FFS Carlow! we don't even exist and we managed to get one case.

lbj666 · 10-06-2020 06:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Including today there has been 67 healthcare worker cases analysed in the 5 days.

Out of 150 odd, so consistent with 1/3 trend throughout. Surely since there is a bit of breathing room now, they could introduce more measures to get that figure down even more.

Rob A. Bank · 10-06-2020 06:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Including today there has been 67 healthcare worker cases analysed in the 5 days.

When you see pictures of nurses in China, Italy, South Korea etc... they look like they are in spacesuits.

Here they seem to be in gowns with surgical masks or a respirator mask, plastic aprons like the dinner lady wears and maybe a face shield.

There has to be something seriously wrong with our PPE, to explain the terrible healthcare worker rate of infections.

silverharp · 10-06-2020 06:30PM

Well ok then, nobody killed grandma

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1270779509223104513

Arghus · 10-06-2020 06:33PM

There seems to be more people talking about people panicking then there are actually people panicking.

Martina1991 · 10-06-2020 06:39PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote:

Agreed. Seems mad not to be using some of the capacity with random testing. [\b] Someone suggested that all childcare workers should be tested before they return to work and that makes sense to me.

Testing isn't a service that should be taken for granted or abused. It's costing hundreds of millions of euro. Laboratory staff were already stretched and understaffed without a national service thrown at them.

The virus is largely suppressed in the community. Testing anyone and everyone is a waste of resources.

There will be uproar and scancal when other services suffer to fund 'random testing'.

bb1234567 · 10-06-2020 06:45PM

silverharp wrote: »

Well ok then, nobody killed grandma

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1270779509223104513

Could do with a few citations that could..not a single piece of information in the article is linked to a valid source, or any source.

ZX7R · 10-06-2020 06:49PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Testing isn't a service that should be taken for granted or abused. It's costing hundreds of millions of euro. Laboratory staff were already stretched and understaffed without a national service thrown at them.

The virus is largely suppressed in the community. Testing anyone and everyone is a waste of resources.

There will be uproar and scancal when other services suffer to fund 'random testing'.

Would there plans to do random antibody testing next month work out cheeper.
Or have those plans been shelved

Arghus · 10-06-2020 06:50PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Could do with a few citations that could..not a single piece of information in the article is linked to a valid source, or any source.

That's gript for ya.

DevilsHaircut · 10-06-2020 06:51PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/06/10/new-covid-19-cases-double-again-in-spain-but-no-fatalities-for-4th-consecutive-day/

No deaths in Spain for 4th consecutive day in a row, it sounds a bit hard to believe since even small countries with very well controlled outbreaks like Ireland czech republic greece finland denmark etc are still reporting at least 1-4 deaths or so most days, while most countries of similar size to spain are still reporting dozens daily. But great news if true..

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1268450746422493184

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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