Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

cnocbui · 09-06-2020 06:01PM

Satellite images and online searches indicate China had coronavirus in the fall, Harvard study finds

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/coronavirus-may-have-been-spreading-in-china-in-august-harvard-study.html

I still want to know what happened to that female doctor who was one of the first to make a fuss and then reportedly 'disappeared'.

rob316 · 09-06-2020 06:01PM

double jobbing wrote: »

Private households would include family members/ housemates of medical workers, meat plant staff etc.

Seems the "out and about" rate is effectively zero. Some achievement given a very large percent of the population can't be bothered with distancing and never were bothered. It's almost as if it's a less virulent strain of it around now.

It's almost if this virus isn't all it was cracked up to be.

cnocbui · 09-06-2020 06:04PM

rob316 wrote: »

It's almost if this virus isn't all it was cracked up to be.

Some Italian doctors claim it has weakened dramatically.

ceadaoin. · 09-06-2020 06:12PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Some Italian doctors claim it has weakened dramatically.

And some American ones too, in Pittsburgh I think it was

Be right back · 09-06-2020 06:34PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Today's our (Cork) second day in a row with 0 cases! Very happy.

Hopefully we can keep it up. Great news.

Cork Boy 53 · 09-06-2020 06:46PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

there was a poster here who said mark my words tomorrow will be much higher.

9 cases second day in a row of single digit cases, whatever about weekend lags this thing is being hammered away at

That poster was me. This is obviously positive news but I would still think it would be advisable to wait for another full week`s reports before it can be said that there is firm evidence for a continuing downward trend. There could still be anomalies in the system.

rob316 · 09-06-2020 06:49PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

That poster was me. This is obviously positive news but I would still think it would be advisable to wait for another full week`s reports before it can be said that there is firm evidence for a continuing downward trend. There could still be anomalies in the system.

Stop it fella it's only going one way this thing. Nevermind us other countries at the end of there wave haven't had any increase with easing restrictions. This wave is done

ACitizenErased · 09-06-2020 06:50PM

https://twitter.com/susmitchellsbp/status/1270419605983502341?s=21

ACitizenErased · 09-06-2020 06:50PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

That poster was me. This is obviously positive news but I would still think it would be advisable to wait for another full week`s reports before it can be said that there is firm evidence for a continuing downward trend. There could still be anomalies in the system.

“Anomalies in the system”... jesus christ

Cork Boy 53 · 09-06-2020 06:55PM

rob316 wrote: »

Stop it fella it's only going one way this thing. Nevermind us other countries at the end of there wave haven't had any increase with easing restrictions. This wave is done

Well if that is what you believe then you should have no issue about waiting another week to see if the downward trend continues. I remain to be convinced that this first wave is over just quite yet.

Van.Bosch · 09-06-2020 06:57PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Well if that is what you believe then you should have no issue about waiting another week to see if the downward trend continues. I remain to be convinced that this first wave is over just quite yet.

“First” Wave implies there will be more, that’s not probable/definite.

fritzelly · 09-06-2020 07:01PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

That poster was me. This is obviously positive news but I would still think it would be advisable to wait for another full week`s reports before it can be said that there is firm evidence for a continuing downward trend. There could still be anomalies in the system.

And next week you'll be saying we need to wait a month...

09-06-2020 07:09PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Well if that is what you believe then you should have no issue about waiting another week to see if the downward trend continues. I remain to be convinced that this first wave is over just quite yet.

First wave is definitely over. Not to imply there will be more. Would not be surprised to see a zero case day within the next two weeks. But do expect to see a flat level of cases for weeks or more with r0 close to 1 as a consequence. This is not a resurgence or signs of a second wave. it just a typical exponential decay with a long tail. Testing tracing and vigilance is key however as this can prevent a second wave if it is to come

Beasty · 09-06-2020 07:11PM

Beasty wrote: »

You are winding up a large number of regular contributors to this thread

Do not post in it again

Away With The Faries threadban now lifted

Cork Boy 53 · 09-06-2020 07:17PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

“First” Wave implies there will be more, that’s not probable/definite.

As yet there is no evidence that there won`t be a second or even a third wave come next autumn/winter and beyond similar to a typical flu season. You may be right, who can say for sure?

Peanut Butter Jelly · 09-06-2020 07:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Analysis of cases as midnight Sunday 7th June - 25,206 cases (+8)

Number hospitalised +9
Number admitted to ICU +2
Healthcare Workers +6
Clusters +1
Cases associated with clusters +25

Age Range Affected
0-4 +1
5-14 No Change
15-24 No Change
25-34 +2
35-44 +3
45-54 +3
55-64 No Change
65-74 +2
75-84 No Change
85+ No Change

Counties
Carlow -1
Dublin +1
Galway +2
Kildare +1
Louth +2
Monaghan +1
Offaly +1
Roscommon +1

Testing
Tests done to date 367,780 (+19364)
Positivity Rate: 1%
Tests per million people 74,540 - 16th in World, 9th in Europe

Do you mind me asking where you get these figures from? Not doubting, just interested to be able look at them for my own research

stephenjmcd · 09-06-2020 07:22PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

As yet there is no evidence that there won`t be a second or even a third wave come next autumn/winter and beyond similar to at typical flu season. You may be right, who can say for sure?

Likewise there's no evidence to support your theory/opinion which your entitled to that there will be a 2nd wave. Yet its continually presented as fact.

podgeandrodge · 09-06-2020 07:24PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Positivity rate of tests down to 1%

Remind me again what was actually wrong with the 19,000 people in the last week that went for tests with only 1% having the virus? Do they all have a cold or what?

growleaves · 09-06-2020 07:26PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Likewise there's no evidence to support your theory/opinion which your entitled to that there will be a 2nd wave. Yet its continually presented as fact.

The second wave hypothesis was itself a stand-down of sorts from the deadly second wave hypothesis where the prediction was a huge spike in death-rates ("You see in 1918..") Still not-impossible to rule out of course.

ZX7R · 09-06-2020 07:26PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Remind me again what was actually wrong with the 19,000 people in the last week that went for tests with only 1% having the virus? Do they all have a cold or what?

Close contact don't require symptoms as far as I know

Polar101 · 09-06-2020 07:28PM

I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but there was 1 denotified death and 1 denotified case, so technically 8 additional deaths and 8 additional cases today and not 9.

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#the-latest-news-as-of-545pm-on-tuesday-9-june

JoChervil · 09-06-2020 07:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/susmitchellsbp/status/1270419605983502341?s=21

I don't get it either. Today I heard on the news that if they made them mandatory, they would have to supply them. What a nonsense!

Are people allowed walking naked in public? So do government supply clothes then?

stephenjmcd · 09-06-2020 07:30PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Remind me again what was actually wrong with the 19,000 people in the last week that went for tests with only 1% having the virus? Do they all have a cold or what?

Who knows, I was actually in touch with my GP about something else today and she said you don't sound great, its cause of hay-fever and she said she could send me on for a test if I wanted. Don't know about other parts of the country but if my GP is sending on people with hay-fever for tests that could be one possible reason.

There you've close contacts who'll be swabbed twice.

I turned down the test by the way.

Ficheall · 09-06-2020 07:32PM

double jobbing wrote: »

assuming these people have any cop on they are isolating and not spreading it.

Therein lies the rub.

stephenjmcd · 09-06-2020 07:32PM

growleaves wrote: »

The second wave hypothesis was itself a stand-down of sorts from the deadly second wave hypothesis where the prediction was a huge spike in death-rates ("You see in 1918..") Still not-impossible to rule out of course.

No not impossible to rule out, but it annoys me when it's presented as fact and posters saying to come back to them when it hits, as if its a guarantee.

Its an opinion which everyone is entitled to but not entitled to present the opinion as a forgone conclusion

All we can go on is the experience of others at the moment and no 2nd wave

JoChervil · 09-06-2020 07:35PM

I feel like Ireland is the same stubborn with masks as Sweden was with lockdown. We will prove that all others are wrong! Is the risk of facing next lockdown worth it?

ZX7R · 09-06-2020 07:36PM

JoChervil wrote: »

I don't get it either. Today I heard on the news that if they made them mandatory, they would have to supply them. What a nonsense!

Are people allowed walking naked in public? So do government supply clothes then?

Because if they make masks mandatory nepth want them to be medical grade.
If they make face coverings mandatory nepth are not happy because there not medical grade and don't do the job properly.
And then you have nepth saying we won't wear them properly but no other country seems to have this problem.

It like a comedy show the mask situation

Beasty · 09-06-2020 07:37PM

JoChervil wrote: »

I don't get it either. Today I heard on the news that if they made them mandatory, they would have to supply them. What a nonsense!

Are people allowed walking naked in public? So do government supply clothes then?

Early on they were concerned there were not enough to go round frontline workers, which is, I am convinced, the reason they played down facemasks at that time.

It's completely different now, and they don't have to prescribe "facemasks", simply face (or "mouth and nose") coverings

I understand there may be other reasons for people not to wear masks, including I presume medical ones, but I really struggle to understand why they do not require masks in enclosed settings such as public transport and recommend them foe all other public settings

Stheno · 09-06-2020 07:40PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Who knows, I was actually in touch with my GP about something else today and she said you don't sound great, its cause of hay-fever and she said she could send me on for a test if I wanted. Don't know about other parts of the country but if my GP is sending on people with hay-fever for tests that could be one possible reason.

There you've close contacts who'll be swabbed twice.

I turned down the test by the way.

Think medical staff are also tested regularly

JoChervil · 09-06-2020 07:43PM

Beasty wrote: »

Early on they were concerned there were not enough to go round frontline workers, which is, I am convinced, the reason they played down facemasks at that time.

It's completely different now, and they don't have to prescribe "facemasks", simply face (or "mouth and nose") coverings

I understand there may be other reasons for people not to wear masks, including I presume medical ones, but I really struggle to understand why they do not require masks in enclosed settings such as public transport and recommend them foe all other public settings

I would add strict city centre. I felt uncomfortable watching footage from Dublin streets with only few people wearing them.

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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