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Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    Jaxson Ryker seems to be making friends with some of the roster

    KO destroyed him too

    https://twitter.com/FightOwensFight/status/1267656906983833600


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,023 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I think I could count on one hand the number of matches he's had between NXT and the main roster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,346 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Imagine the reaction a pro-Trump gimmick would get in front of crowds? You could be the biggest babyface on the show in somewhere like Alabama or Mississippi one week and a despised heel in I dunno, New York, the next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,968 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Imagine the reaction a pro-Trump gimmick would get in front of crowds? You could be the biggest babyface on the show in somewhere like Alabama or Mississippi one week and a despised heel in I dunno, New York, the next week.

    A pro trump gimmick ? There'd be so much heat it'd make Mid south wrestling crowds in the 1980's look civil. I mean Jim cornette if nothing else in the 1980's could get heat like nobodies business but even he's said the crowds in Louisiana especially were nasty ****ers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Me_Grapes


    Aren't there a lot of guys in WWE who are quite pro Trump, not to mention the fact that the Mcmahons activly support Trump and make no bones about it.

    I would say between this, working under the covid and the releases, there must be some serious tensions bubbling up for certain sections of the roster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,968 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Me_Grapes wrote: »
    Aren't there a lot of guys in WWE who are quite pro Trump, not to mention the fact that the Mcmahons activly support Trump and make no bones about it.

    I would say between this, working under the covid and the releases, there must be some serious tensions bubbling up for certain sections of the roster.

    Amongst the roster I doubt that many are trump supporters. I could be wrong but a lot of the roster don't strike me as ardent trump supporters.

    The upper management probably and the McMahons(bar Shane and his wife) clearly are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Me_Grapes wrote: »
    Aren't there a lot of guys in WWE who are quite pro Trump, not to mention the fact that the Mcmahons activly support Trump and make no bones about it.

    I would say between this, working under the covid and the releases, there must be some serious tensions bubbling up for certain sections of the roster.

    just like most companies in america id imagine with anything like this

    youd hope they are like orton who is republican but saw this issue for what it was just wrong on so many levels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Me_Grapes wrote: »
    Aren't there a lot of guys in WWE who are quite pro Trump, not to mention the fact that the Mcmahons activly support Trump and make no bones about it.

    I would say between this, working under the covid and the releases, there must be some serious tensions bubbling up for certain sections of the roster.

    The wrestling industry is notoriously Republican. Not sure about current guys but Vince, Linda, Hulk Hogan, HHH, HBK, Ric Flair, The Rock, Kevin Nash, Bob Backlund, Jerry Lawler, Kane, Booker T, Jesse Ventura, Ted DiBiase, Bradshaw. A lot of Trump supporters in that lot too.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Myla Plain Alternator


    The Nal wrote: »
    The wrestling industry is notoriously Republican. Not sure about current guys but Vince, Linda, Hulk Hogan, HHH, HBK, Ric Flair, The Rock, Kevin Nash, Bob Backlund, Jerry Lawler, Kane, Booker T, Jesse Ventura, Ted DiBiase, Bradshaw. A lot of Trump supporters in that lot too.

    Ventura is not a Republican.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Me_Grapes wrote: »
    Aren't there a lot of guys in WWE who are quite pro Trump, not to mention the fact that the Mcmahons activly support Trump and make no bones about it.

    I would say between this, working under the covid and the releases, there must be some serious tensions bubbling up for certain sections of the roster.

    I'm actually surprised Sami Zayn has lasted so long in WWE. Like what is the whole deal with him and WWE? Is he trying to get as much out of WWE before they either release him or he leaves himself or is he actually happy to work for WWE despite their opposing views. He seems like a headache to WWE but they keep him around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    The Nal wrote: »
    The wrestling industry is notoriously Republican. Not sure about current guys but Vince, Linda, Hulk Hogan, HHH, HBK, Ric Flair, The Rock, Kevin Nash, Bob Backlund, Jerry Lawler, Kane, Booker T, Jesse Ventura, Ted DiBiase, Bradshaw. A lot of Trump supporters in that lot too.

    Nash definitely isnt a republican if you ever see his political tweets actually seems to be one of the more liberal of the older guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,346 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The Nal wrote: »
    The wrestling industry is notoriously Republican. Not sure about current guys but Vince, Linda, Hulk Hogan, HHH, HBK, Ric Flair, The Rock, Kevin Nash, Bob Backlund, Jerry Lawler, Kane, Booker T, Jesse Ventura, Ted DiBiase, Bradshaw. A lot of Trump supporters in that lot too.

    Cody Rhodes too and he's one with a nasty streak. Proper MAGA tosser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Cody Rhodes too and he's one with a nasty streak. Proper MAGA tosser.

    Davis Starr say he is not/
    We don’t agree politically, but I can also 100% assure you that he’s not MAGA.
    https://twitter.com/TheProductDS/status/1252166418554073089?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,346 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Undertaker is another big Republican. He was wearing a Trump shirt and blue lives matter t-shirts in The Last Ride.

    What's he doing liking tweets by Rovert (of all people) that say Sami Zayn should go back to Canada if he doesn't agree with Trump's handling of Covid?

    His old Twitter account he talked about wearing a MAGA hat. He complained about foreigners working in Starbucks.

    He knows now to keep that stuff under wraps because it doesn't play well these days to fans but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    I’d honestly say wrestler wise there’s a lot more republicans than there are democrats In the industry.

    They’ll just never say it publicly cause they’ll be slaughter on twitter you have Vince/Linda clear ties to trump, the khans donated to trump

    I just cling onto the fact that there’s guys like Kevin Owens that seem just like really great guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Undertaker is another big Republican. He was wearing a Trump shirt and blue lives matter t-shirts in The Last Ride.



    What's he doing liking tweets by Rovert (of all people) that say Sami Zayn should go back to Canada if he doesn't agree with Trump's handling of Covid?

    His old Twitter account he talked about wearing a MAGA hat. He complained about foreigners working in Starbucks.

    He knows now to keep that stuff under wraps because it doesn't play well these days to fans but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck etc.


    I'll take the word of one the most politically active wrestler in the world today over a random dude on the internet in this case that is not MAGA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,968 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    sky88 wrote: »
    Nash definitely isnt a republican if you ever see his political tweets actually seems to be one of the more liberal of the older guys

    I think we need to make a distinction between being a republican and a trump supporter. It seems you can be a republican and hate trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,346 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I'll take the word of one the most politically active wrestler in the world today over a random dude on the internet in this case that is not MAGA.

    They're Cody's own words but whatever.
    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I think we need to make a distinction between being a republican and a trump supporter. It seems you can be a republican and hate trump.

    Can you? Almost everything I've seen from American politics makes it seem like sports support. Red vs Blue, Liverpool vs Man United type tit for tat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,023 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'd say if this week's shows weren't recorded last week that New Day, at least, would wear "George Floyd" arm bands


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    I'll take the word of one the most politically active wrestler in the world today over a random dude on the internet in this case that is not MAGA.

    David Starr might not know his a maga guy how much time has he spent with Cody to know we don’t know. Cody could also have lied to David Starr about it.

    In the end unless he actively says it we all just guessing


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Myla Plain Alternator


    Kevin Nash's Twitter bio states that he is a centrist Democrat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    The way I see it is that WWE is really swimming with the sharks.
    So Ryker makes the tweet and no disrespect to him but he is not high on the food chain within WWE so others like a pack of wolves smelling blood attacked him (Sami, Ali etc)

    But he should know how to play the game by now. You cannot say ANYTHING on social media. Keep your own feelings and thoughts to yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,968 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The way I see it is that WWE is really swimming with the sharks.
    So Ryker makes the tweet and no disrespect to him but he is not high on the food chain within WWE so others like a pack of wolves smelling blood attacked him (Sami, Ali etc)

    But he should know how to play the game by now. You cannot say ANYTHING on social media. Keep your own feelings and thoughts to yourself.

    Well I think religion and politics like in real life shouldn't be discussed on social media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,968 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Hulk hogan is banned from AEW events ? Well that's a positive in my mind.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red



    I love how she said if they want to be heard they need to be civilized :confused::confused:

    Isnt AJ also a big republican too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Well I think religion and politics like in real life shouldn't be discussed on social media.

    Absolutely.
    Ah he's a fool. Brought it on himself. Am hearing that he made a racist tweet before that's coming back into light.

    That's the end of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    As far as Ryker goes, I can’t see anyone being that dumb to think that was a good time for someone in his position to make that tweet and mean it. I have to believe that using his catchphrase was a sign that it was him trying to capitalise and get some ‘mad heel heat’, which is the dumbest idea ever obviously but still not as bad as if it were the case.

    A lot of successful wrestlers will lean Republican for the simple fact that they’re wealthy and a basic tenet of Republicanism is that people have a right to make and keep their money. It’s not a completely invalid stance in theory, although I don’t personally subscribe to it, and it’s one many would probably do a U-turn on if they were lucky enough to experience wealth. But being a Republican also doesn’t make you a Trump supporter, John McCain was a former Republican Presidential candidate and was one of Trump’s worst enemies and biggest critics. I’d say a lot in the party see him for the lunatic he is, but they’ve party loyalty and their own ambitions that come into play and compromise that publicly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,968 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I think Scott hall has to be up there with the best punchers in the business. I know his were open handed but just the way he did it were great. I liked how macho man punched. Maybe I'm wrong but you'd think that outside of learning how to take a basic bump, that how to throw a good and effective working punch would be high on the list of things wrestlers would learn.


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