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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #1172
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Sheep_shear wrote: »
    Epstein alert :pac:

    Can you explain? I’m lost....


  • #1173
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    After yesterday's farcical virtue signalling March in the city centre there and the silence of Leo and Co. there is absolutely no way they can just go to phase 2 now. Open up the economy ffs and let us go back to work


  • #1174
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Bars, dont forget bars, also opened. + Gyms.

    People will tell you "ireland is behind france on infections and peaks"

    Yeah but not bloody 2 months 10 days behind. 2-3 weeks at the most.

    Exactly

    Everywhere will be well open before us the way we're going

    It's sad


  • #1175
    Sheep_shear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Sheep_shear


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Can you explain? I’m lost....

    I'm just pulling your leg.


  • #1176
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    I wish people - on either side - could stop quoting nonsense that contains words like 'maybe', 'could be', 'possibly'.
    I could say anything if it contained any of those words and it would mean absolutely nothing.

    Its like being 'probably' the best lager in the world. Its just noise.

    This post is probably the best on this thread!


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  • #1177
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    If I owned a business I’d be opening it today. What a kick in the face to the business owners and people of this country who have abided by the restrictions at great financial and person cost to them for months now. My brother in law couldn’t go to his granny’s funeral (not Covid related) last week and yet thousands can walk through town and not be condemned by the Taoiseach.

    Stick an antifa flag over the door and open up in “protest.”


  • #1178
    Archeron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,573 ✭✭✭Archeron


    the kelt wrote: »
    So whats next?

    We need to flatten the curve: Ok we done that, actually we done that ages ago, we obliterated the curve so we're good yeah?

    Actually we need to get the r0 below 1: Ok fair enough, but hold on we had that achieved back in early May didnt we and its now around 0.4 to 0.6 so again we are good to maybe accelerate through the restrictions a bit, yeah?

    Ehhm well ICU capacity, new case numbers and daily deaths, we need them reduced: Fair enough, makes sense, but since the 15th of May have we not been below 100 daily deaths apart from one day, active cases lowest since March 21st, daily deaths below 20 since May 12th, and 80%of ICU beds available, so good to go, yeah??

    Well theressss emmm test turnaround times, they need to be reduced: Ok but thats on you but did you not admit we can now do 105k a week even now with a really good turnaround so alls good, took ye a while but ye got there so we are good to start moving quicker yeah?

    Emm welllll, oh look we cant move on quicker because in reality the entire system is a shambles so everyone is just going to have to put up with it and oh yeah, our app isnt ready yet so just stfah but isnt Tony and Simon et all doing a great job everybody??

    NPHET have not ruled out the possibility that aliens could get infected with the virus. As long as there is any risk of an alien invasion on earth, we must be cautious and remain locked in our homes. Once scientists have confirmed that life does not actually exist anywhere else in the universe, we can look to moving to phase two. We are hopeful this may happen before the year 2160


  • #1179
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Sheep_shear wrote: »
    I'm just pulling your leg.

    I can’t even remotely make a connection between Epstein and I. What connection are you making?


  • #1180
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,673 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    titan18 wrote: »
    Necessary my ass. What good is some Irish people protesting going to do to actually change things?

    Also, Madrid Womens Day march was considered pretty key in the virus exploding there, as was Spanish fans coming to Liverpool for the CL game, which would both ahve been outdoors.

    With respect I suggest doing some research on the importance of protests and how international support for issues can instigate influence on a domestic level


  • #1181
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,673 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    I have not gone outside the 2km or 5km distance except on two occasions - to visit my parents twice in 13 weeks (we locked down early as a family) and that was where I was bringing them supplies - I was outside and not within 2 metres. I walked the first time rather than public transport as I understood that the Dart and buses are for front line staff only.

    I used the time to drop some painting inside without going to buy any paint or supplies. Was that not allowed?

    Strictly speaking unless it’s necessary and essential then it’s not allowed. The “dickie up the curtains” quote is straight from the health minister’s mouth

    https://www.thejournal.ie/hardware-homeware-5100208-May2020/


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  • #1182
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    faceman wrote: »
    Strictly speaking unless it’s necessary and essential then it’s not allowed. The “dickie up the curtains” quote is straight from the health minister’s mouth

    https://www.thejournal.ie/hardware-homeware-5100208-May2020/

    It was ‘I’m going to dickie up the house and buy a new pair of curtains’.

    "Dickie up the curtains" has different connotations entirely, at least in my filthy mind :D


  • #1183
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    HSE not built to withstand a second wave that might never come

    Can't accelerate the slowest easing of restrictions in Europe either just in case
    I wonder how we do with HSE spendings (billions per 1 m population) in compare with the rest of EU?


  • #1184
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    titan18 wrote: »
    Necessary my ass. What good is some Irish people protesting going to do to actually change things?

    Also, Madrid Womens Day march was considered pretty key in the virus exploding there, as was Spanish fans coming to Liverpool for the CL game, which would both ahve been outdoors.

    The problem with the CL game was the Spanish fans drinking in the packed Liverpool pubs for the 2 days around it, not the game itself where they would have been in the away end on their own anyway.


  • #1185
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    faceman wrote: »
    With respect I suggest doing some research on the importance of protests and how international support for issues can instigate influence on a domestic level

    Do you actually think that international support will change Trump or police chiefs minds? There's about as much chance of me sleeping with a supermodel as a march in Ireland will do for changing their minds.


  • #1186
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    At the start they could only do 2000/3000 tests per week and had to wait 2 - 3 weeks for results.

    Now they can do 105,000 tests per week (only 35,000 been taken up 2 out of 3 last weeks) and results are 98% within 2 days, most of time within 1 day per HSE CEO.

    in fairness Ireland are only capable of doing 100K per week if they farm out about 40% of testing to Germany.
    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Yet we still havent heard any announcements of accelerating restrictions being lifted.

    Flattened the curve, improved testing capacity and speed of results greatly, empty hospitals, 80%+ empty ICU beds, yet we have doctors coming out warning against lifting restrictions early.

    Just getting to that hopeless stage. :mad:

    That's because the Health system is really weak at the best of times, Ireland was extremely lucky to dodge a bullet but would be foolish to think they can do that again.

    That was the words of Stephen Donnelly.


  • #1187
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    in fairness Ireland are only capable of doing 100K per week if they farm out about 40% of testing to Germany.



    That's because the Health system is really weak at the best of times, Ireland was extremely lucky to dodge a bullet but would be foolish to think they can do that again.

    That was the words of Stephen Donnelly.

    One thing is for 100% sure, health system will get much weaker when its funding will be cut in October's budget if we continue on with our lockdown as planned.


  • #1188
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    If I owned a business I’d be opening it today. What a kick in the face to the business owners and people of this country who have abided by the restrictions at great financial and person cost to them for months now. My brother in law couldn’t go to his granny’s funeral (not Covid related) last week and yet thousands can walk through town and not be condemned by the Taoiseach.

    Stick an antifa flag over the door and open up in “protest.”

    Nice time to start protesting against climate change (global warming) and go to the beach.


  • #1189
    Sheep_shear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Sheep_shear


    na1 wrote: »
    Nice time to start protesting against climate change (global warming) and go to the beach.

    I can't think of anything more necessary. Remember to bring all your mates and the 2m stuff can go out the window, because it's necessary.


  • #1190
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    One thing is for 100% sure, health system will get much weaker when its funding will be cut in October's budget if we continue on with our lockdown as planned.

    Yeah you are probably right, but I heard Donnelly say that those in the health system fear another outbreak more than anything because next time they might not be so lucky.

    So that's where its at.


  • #1191
    greensheep777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭greensheep777


    Sheep_shear wrote: »
    Epstein alert :pac:
    splinter65 wrote: »
    Can you explain? I’m lost....
    Sheep_shear wrote: »
    I'm just pulling your leg.

    Ignore splinter65, they don't even know what day of the week it is, and they won't be at Tramore either. Apparently female flesh is some sort of covid magnet.


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  • #1192
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    faceman wrote: »
    Strictly speaking unless it’s necessary and essential then it’s not allowed. The “dickie up the curtains” quote is straight from the health minister’s mouth

    https://www.thejournal.ie/hardware-homeware-5100208-May2020/

    To clarify it was essential supplies. My conscience is clear.

    Is the Minister right in the head (on this one)?


  • #1193
    GiftofGab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭GiftofGab


    Does anybody know when Glendalough is opening up again?


  • #1194
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    GiftofGab wrote: »
    Does anybody know when Glendalough is opening up again?

    It's open but plenty of checks for people coming from beyond the 5k limit.


  • #1195
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,673 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    titan18 wrote: »
    Do you actually think that international support will change Trump or police chiefs minds? There's about as much chance of me sleeping with a supermodel as a march in Ireland will do for changing their minds.

    It doesn’t need to. If the house of cards underneath him collapses then pressure us tenfold


  • #1196
    greensheep777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭greensheep777


    titan18 wrote: »
    Do you actually think that international support will change Trump or police chiefs minds? There's about as much chance of me sleeping with a supermodel as a march in Ireland will do for changing their minds.

    NOPE! They don't listen to other countries or learn from them. If they did, they'd change their education system, healthcare system, maybe let people be entitled to a day off here or there...


  • #1197
    VonLuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I can't believe so many of you are using the argument "well if all those protesters are breaking the rules, I'm going to as well".

    What sort of logic is that? If everyone had that attitude society would fall apart.


  • #1198
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,260 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    GiftofGab wrote: »
    Does anybody know when Glendalough is opening up again?

    Its fine , just bring a banner and shout a few slogans and chant something in the car park . Apparently thats ok to do now


  • #1199
    newuser99999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Yeah you are probably right, but I heard Donnelly say that those in the health system fear another outbreak more than anything because next time they might not be so lucky.

    So that's where its at.

    I’d say they’re more worried about all the backlog that they’ll have to get through than this mythical second wave.


  • #1200
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    plodder wrote: »
    Yes, but it has a big effect on the likely impact of a second wave. 15% is far from herd immunity, but it does reduce the impact, and I've seen one paper that says herd immunity could be reached with 43% infection.

    And others say 70% plus
    https://www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic
    https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/achieving-herd-immunity-with-covid19.html


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  • #1201
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,795 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    VonLuck wrote: »
    I can't believe so many of you are using the argument "well if all those protesters are breaking the rules, I'm going to as well".

    What sort of logic is that? If everyone had that attitude society would fall apart.

    In regular life, correct. In this scaremongering "We're not there yet" stay inside or else 3 months we've endured, then yes, society of that nature is falling apart. Animal Farm: the people eventually revolt


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