Masks

I have to take a flight later on this week (essential travel) and I'm not one bit looking forward to it. To make it worse, I need to get public transport (on a bus for a few hours to Dublin airport) hanging around the airport for a few hours and then the flight itself.

I'm in a high risk, vulnerable category and I'm terrified of picking up and contracting anything and even worse, passing it on, especially as I'm minding my elderly parents at the moment.

How can I best minimise my risk and reduce my chance of exposing myself to and picking up anything?

I'm planning on wearing a mask and goggles and gloves, but is there anything else I can get?

Ideally I would love to get some sort of protective overalls that I could wear on the day and strip off immediately the other side when I land.

It may seem a bit OTT and it probably is, but it will be worth it if it gives me some sort of peace of mind while I have to make this journey.

The problem is I don't know what sort of mask or face visor I should be getting, or even what sort of protective overalls? I'm thinking something plastic and disposable?

What should I be Googling to find what I'm looking for or even better yet if someone could point me in the right direction please as every website I'm checking everything I'm looking for is either sold out or only available in vast quantities to the trade.

What terms should I be searching for for protective outer wear gear?

If anyone knows of anything that might be suitable, I would really appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks

Morby wrote: »

I have to take a flight later on this week (essential travel) and I'm not one bit looking forward to it. To make it worse, I need to get public transport (on a bus for a few hours to Dublin airport) hanging around the airport for a few hours and then the flight itself.

I'm in a high risk, vulnerable category and I'm terrified of picking up and contracting anything and even worse, passing it on, especially as I'm minding my elderly parents at the moment.

How can I best minimise my risk and reduce my chance of exposing myself to and picking up anything?

I'm planning on wearing a mask and goggles and gloves, but is there anything else I can get?

Ideally I would love to get some sort of protective overalls that I could wear on the day and strip off immediately the other side when I land.

It may seem a bit OTT and it probably is, but it will be worth it if it gives me some sort of peace of mind while I have to make this journey.

The problem is I don't know what sort of mask or face visor I should be getting, or even what sort of protective overalls? I'm thinking something plastic and disposable?

What should I be Googling to find what I'm looking for or even better yet if someone could point me in the right direction please as every website I'm checking everything I'm looking for is either sold out or only available in vast quantities to the trade.

What terms should I be searching for for protective outer wear gear?

If anyone knows of anything that might be suitable, I would really appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks

Caulfield industrial dot com have chemical protective suits, would order one of them.

Make sure your goggles are sealed and don’t have air vents.

Make sure your mask is FFP2 at a minimum or FFP3 grade, look into getting a half face elastomeric respirator. I got a few of them myself recently from abroad and they are great. Make sure the filters though are particulate and either FFP 2/ FFP3 or else n95- p100 NIOSH approved. You’d get one in any decent hardware store (often used for painting).

Gloves should be ok, be sure to do frequent hand washing if you take the gloves off or if you only have one pair of gloves you could consider washing the hands with the gloves on (when using bathroom etc or after handling luggage conveyor or touching surfaces )

Long term mask solution I would look at getting a Cambridge mask, although they aren’t shipping till August. I ordered one a few weeks ago.

Pre order the pro one as it is n99 grade.

https://cambridgemask.com/

Morby wrote: »

I have to take a flight later on this week (essential travel) and I'm not one bit looking forward to it. To make it worse, I need to get public transport (on a bus for a few hours to Dublin airport) hanging around the airport for a few hours and then the flight itself.

I'm in a high risk, vulnerable category and I'm terrified of picking up and contracting anything and even worse, passing it on, especially as I'm minding my elderly parents at the moment.

How can I best minimise my risk and reduce my chance of exposing myself to and picking up anything?

I'm planning on wearing a mask and goggles and gloves, but is there anything else I can get?

Ideally I would love to get some sort of protective overalls that I could wear on the day and strip off immediately the other side when I land.

It may seem a bit OTT and it probably is, but it will be worth it if it gives me some sort of peace of mind while I have to make this journey.

The problem is I don't know what sort of mask or face visor I should be getting, or even what sort of protective overalls? I'm thinking something plastic and disposable?

What should I be Googling to find what I'm looking for or even better yet if someone could point me in the right direction please as every website I'm checking everything I'm looking for is either sold out or only available in vast quantities to the trade.

What terms should I be searching for for protective outer wear gear?

If anyone knows of anything that might be suitable, I would really appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks

I would leave mask on for duration of journey, do not take it off for any reason, this includes eating and drinking when on bus and plane.

I haven't read it yet but the European Centre for Disease Prevention ECDC have a 30 page covid-19 aviation health safety protocol, published 5 days ago, start there, the more knowledge you have the better prepared and calmer you will be. Also loads of excellent resources and even online training courses on ECDC site, best place on the web right now.

This a mask thread maybe PPE thread might provide you with a few tips.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

What will it be like going through airport security now? Would they allow someone with mask, goggles and a suit go through? They expect you to take things off. Can you bring cleaning wipes to clean your own tray as well, are those trays ever cleaned? but then you can't bring liquids, so would they allow cleaning wipes with liquid in the wipes?

Of course they wouldn't let someone wearing all that go through. Why would you even need to be in a suit, we aren't dealing with the plague. Its complete overkill.

Wear a mask if you want but the rest not a chance they'll let you through security in.

The trays are cleaned. DAA said it a while ago. Rules still stand nothing over the 100mls liquid.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Of course they wouldn't let someone wearing all that go through.

They would.

Article from today's IT

Incredible how often Dr Nabarro turns up on Irish radio. He truned up to prop up Ireland's 2 meter rule but accidentally put his foot in it, not that world media will pick it up. In his 2nd paragraph he admits that 30% of droplets go over 1 meter.

Dr Nabarro told RTE Today with Sarah McInerney on Monday morning that 70 per cent of droplets from a person’s cough will travel within one metre, and that “very few of them travel further than two metres”. He also drops afew comments on facemasks, saying not to take them off on a plane to eat or drink, which is good advice. He punched below the belt with his quality of mask wearing comment though. Quality of masks is going to become the big issue. At least the ECDC have the balls to say wearing a bull**** facecovering is going to be fcukall good to you on a flight.

EXTRACT FROM TODAY"S IT

“The WHO and others have said the best distance to keep away from people if you want to avoid inhaling a droplet is two metres. That’s because that will keep you safe 99 per cent of the time but you can greatly reduce risk even at one metre because 70 per cent of the droplets will stick within one metre.”

Dr Nabarro said it is a balance of risk, and a choice that must be made based on a personal set of circumstances. If you really want to reduce the risk of picking up an infection stay at least two metres away, he said.

“But if you are in a difficult situation where you have to be in close proximity to someone, if you’re providing care or if you are working in factory where two metres doesn’t work you can still greatly reduce the risk by being one metre away,” according to Dr Nabarro.

Ventilation, the weather, and an individual’s style of coughing are three factors that can affect the transmission capacity of the virus, Dr Nabarro said.

On the issue of face masks Dr Nabarro said “a poorly worn face mask is no good”, and that he believes that the “quality of mask wearing is going to become a big issue”.

He said: “If you are sitting next to somebody on a flight that has a nasty cough and you happen to take your face mask off to eat or drink you might end up getting the coronavirus.”

He added that in order for the face mask to be effective on a flight he believes that it would have to be worn for the flight’s duration.

YFlyer wrote: »

Mask on The Tonight Show now.

If CV was on the mask he's transferred it to his hands or vice versa.

Seanergy wrote: »

Quality of masks is going to become the big issue. At least the ECDC have the balls to say wearing a bull**** facecovering is going to be fcukall good to you on a flight.

This is false. Any sort of makeshift face covering will help, even a scarf.

I suspect the reason people are thinking this is because of how most people know that some masks are useless for if you want to be safe while painting or spraypainting. All masks help.

Seanergy wrote: »

Article from today's IT

Incredible how often Dr Nabarro turns up on Irish radio. He truned up to prop up Ireland's 2 meter rule but accidentally put his foot in it, not that world media will pick it up. In his 2nd paragraph he admits that 30% of droplets go over 1 meter.

Dr Nabarro told RTE Today with Sarah McInerney on Monday morning that 70 per cent of droplets from a person’s cough will travel within one metre, and that “very few of them travel further than two metres”. He also drops afew comments on facemasks, saying not to take them off on a plane to eat or drink, which is good advice. He punched below the belt with his quality of mask wearing comment though. Quality of masks is going to become the big issue. At least the ECDC have the balls to say wearing a bull**** facecovering is going to be fcukall good to you on a flight.

EXTRACT FROM TODAY"S IT

“The WHO and others have said the best distance to keep away from people if you want to avoid inhaling a droplet is two metres. That’s because that will keep you safe 99 per cent of the time but you can greatly reduce risk even at one metre because 70 per cent of the droplets will stick within one metre.”

Dr Nabarro said it is a balance of risk, and a choice that must be made based on a personal set of circumstances. If you really want to reduce the risk of picking up an infection stay at least two metres away, he said.

“But if you are in a difficult situation where you have to be in close proximity to someone, if you’re providing care or if you are working in factory where two metres doesn’t work you can still greatly reduce the risk by being one metre away,” according to Dr Nabarro.

Ventilation, the weather, and an individual’s style of coughing are three factors that can affect the transmission capacity of the virus, Dr Nabarro said.

On the issue of face masks Dr Nabarro said “a poorly worn face mask is no good”, and that he believes that the “quality of mask wearing is going to become a big issue”.

He said: “If you are sitting next to somebody on a flight that has a nasty cough and you happen to take your face mask off to eat or drink you might end up getting the coronavirus.”

He added that in order for the face mask to be effective on a flight he believes that it would have to be worn for the flight’s duration.

This guy doesn't know his stuff.

The 2m distance is an arbitrary nonsense with no basis in science.

Cough droplets can travel 7-8 m.

Turbulent Gas Clouds and Respiratory Pathogen Emissions, Potential Implications for Reducing Transmission of COVID-19
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763852

Hence masks are important. And more important than flawed rules on social distancing.

Wear a mask and keep serious distance from anyone basically.

paleoperson wrote: »

This is false. Any sort of makeshift face covering will help, even a scarf.

I suspect the reason people are thinking this is because of how most people know that some masks are useless for if you want to be safe while painting or spraypainting. All masks help.

Somthing I said or something the ECDC said?

The ECDC do not recommend non medical face masks for passengers when 1.5 meters is breached.

LINK

dfx- wrote: »

What's the coronavirus load after an 8m cough?

Or 1m?

What is the required amount of "coronavirus load" to infect a person?

Even with the 2m gap, when people are on the move we can easily walk into a bit of virus moving in the air that was deposited by another quickly moving human. Doesn’t have to be Usain Bolt even. If we all wear masks it will definitely help.

To help with the global shortage of N95 masks, a group of ex-@Apple mechanical engineers got together to #FixTheMask. We are creating an open source surgical mask brace — improving the sealing and filtration efficiency of standard surgical masks. But while that's pending, we've come up with this DIY surgical mask brace as an immediate solution. This is just the beginning...

Step 1: Gather materials. 1 rubber sheet, 1 printout, 1 marker, 1 pair of scissors
Step 2: Cut out the stencil from the print-out
Step 3: Trace stencil onto the rubber sheet with marker
Step 4: Cut mask out from rubber sheet