Masks

drunkmonkey

No: other

Maybe they didn't all head off to Italy skiing then came back to work in the schools/hospitals, maybe they don't have a large number of Chinese residents like us, maybe they didn't import Covid to their nursing homes. There are so many variables at play. Your also depending on truthful data being recorded.
It's not correct to say they done better than us because of masks, a lot of our deaths and infections are down to pure stupidity and could have been avoided without masks.

xhomelezz

Yes: valved

trapp wrote: »

Anyone promoting mask wearing post covid needs to give their head a shake.

Anyway great news for the anti mask brigade.

It is clear to see that the irish public have not taken up mask wearing despite a few nutters pushing for everyone to cover their faces.

In a global pandemic masks are useful in limited settings such as packed public transport.

Other than that no need and thankfully the public have been smart about this.

Great post mate, post covid?? What's that? Guess u appear to have working vaccine right. And sure few nutters, who didn't want to see so many people dead, not counting folks who got sick and will suffer in future, cuz that thing makes irreversible changes and damage to your lungs and other organs, but yeah Irish public was very smart..

KaneToad

Yes: to protect myself and others

trapp wrote: »

Anyone promoting mask wearing post covid needs to give their head a shake.

Are you suggesting that we're 'post covid' now??

xhomelezz

Yes: valved

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Maybe they didn't all head off to Italy skiing then came back to work in the schools/hospitals, maybe they don't have a large number of Chinese residents like us, maybe they didn't import Covid to their nursing homes. There are so many variables at play. Your also depending on truthful data being recorded.
It's not correct to say they done better than us because of masks, a lot of our deaths and infections are down to pure stupidity and could have been avoided without masks.

You can be sure there are plenty of Czechs who went for skiing to Italy(our favourite skiing destination) and they did came back to work and schools, because of course was nothing to worry about, but authorities reacted for once quickly. Quarantine and etc.. So they avoided many deaths. Oh and yeah masks as a part of all other measures. Now you can post how Ireland dealt with it please, amuse me. Half arsed lockdown with great portion of luck, that's how I see it.

radiotrickster

No: other

Arrival wrote: »

So why are they worn in hospitals?

Because healthcare professionals are trained in how to safely put on, take off and dispose of masks. Plus with the amount of people they come into contact with each day, they're more at-risk than the average person who's leaving the house once a week for a shop and comes into barely any contact with others due to social distancing.

xhomelezz

Yes: valved

radiotrickster wrote: »

Because healthcare professionals are trained in how to safely put on, take off and dispose of masks. Plus with the amount of people they come into contact with each day, they're more at-risk than the average person who's leaving the house once a week for a shop and comes into barely any contact with others due to social distancing.

What about all essential shoppers queuing for breakfast rolls and all others who didn't understand the rules..

Arrival

radiotrickster wrote: »

Because healthcare professionals are trained in how to safely put on, take off and dispose of masks. Plus with the amount of people they come into contact with each day, they're more at-risk than the average person who's leaving the house once a week for a shop and comes into barely any contact with others due to social distancing.

This isn't really relevant to the context of the post I was replying to though:

They offer little to no protection. There an anxiety device according to the scientists.
Your not protecting anybody any more than if you follow the HSE advice.

He is saying they offer little to no protection. Perhaps he should let all those medical professionals know this groundbreaking news that they're wearing something which is sadly just an anxiety device

But to address your own points; other countries have managed to educate their populations about correct etiquette when it comes to wearing masks, so it's possible to inform people. But besides this, since the whole point of masks is not to protect the wearer but to reduce asymptomatic spreaders unknowingly spreading when out in the community, i.e. protecting others, then as long as everyone's wearing masks in the necessary places the issue of possibly being infected by touching surfaces and your mask lessens as there is less of the virus escaping those who happen to have it. The HSE said the other day that almost 2/3 of close contacts who tested positive showed no symptoms (asymptomatic). So there are definitely lots of people who have the virus but have no idea they do; its not possible to test everyone to find these people, so simply cover the noses and mouths of everyone indoors as these are the body parts which emit the virus. In an ideal world, everyone would be completely conscious and mindful to always keep their distance and practice proper coughing and sneezing etiquette, but that's not reality. You're faced with general ignorance and disregarding of the guidelines any time you go to the supermarket, and it's getting worse over the past few weeks. So masks are simply another ideal guideline to have in place along with social distancing and hand hygiene

Seanergy

Yes: valved

radiotrickster wrote: »

Because healthcare professionals are trained in how to safely put on, take off and dispose of masks. Plus with the amount of people they come into contact with each day, they're more at-risk than the average person who's leaving the house once a week for a shop and comes into barely any contact with others due to social distancing.

Radiosickster, really unable to answer a simple question. The question was: So why are they worn in hospitals?

fr336

Yes: surgical

trapp wrote: »

Anyone promoting mask wearing post covid needs to give their head a shake.

Anyway great news for the anti mask brigade.

It is clear to see that the irish public have not taken up mask wearing despite a few nutters pushing for everyone to cover their faces.

In a global pandemic masks are useful in limited settings such as packed public transport.

Other than that no need and thankfully the public have been smart about this.

You must want lockdown to keep coming back.

trapp

Arrival wrote: »

It's actually just sad if you're not trolling saying this kind of stuff. Czechia has twice our population and Slovakia has a similar sized population as us. Both countries are more densely populated than us.


Czechia currently has 9,226 cases and 319 deaths

Slovakia currently has 1,521 cases and 28 deaths

Ireland currently has 24,876 cases and 1,645 deaths

Slovakia implemented mandatory mask wearing indoors basically at the very start and their government were wearing masks from the start while doing all conferences, basically leading by example for their population

Czechia implemented mandatory masks indoors a little bit later, but still managed to do it quick enough to allow them to have a much shorter lockdown than us, they're currently reoppening a lot of things and they're doing much better at containing it than us

Their governmental medical officers and health service experts have said that they attribute this to the high % of mask wearing amongst the population to reduce community spread

But yes, people here encouraging similar usage of masks in order to allow us to slow the spreading and lift the lockdown are nutters for trying to improve our situation by emulating what's helped other countries

Not sure where to start with this.

So you know more than Tony Holohan, Cillian de gascun and so on who have only recommended masks in crowded public areas do you?

Secondly Czechia is not a country.

Thirdly comparing their numbers with ours is absolutely pointless given that the epicentre of the pandemic was in Western Europe.

Guess what we're in Western Europe, Slovakia and 'Czechia' is not.

Some people just love to moan and complain.

Heaven help you if you think everyone slinking around in masks would have made a blind bit of difference

trapp

KaneToad wrote: »

Are you suggesting that we're 'post covid' now??

Nope a quick read back my poor friend would have shown you i was replying to a poor man who thinks we should all wear masks all the time post covid to prevent the flue spreading

Pablo Escobar

trapp wrote: »

Not sure where to start with this.

So you know more than Tony Holohan, Cillian de gascun and so on who have only recommended masks in crowded public areas do you?

Secondly Czechia is not a country.

Thirdly comparing their numbers with ours is absolutely pointless given that the epicentre of the pandemic was in Western Europe.

Guess what we're in Western Europe, Slovakia and 'Czechia' is not.

Some people just love to moan and complain.

Heaven help you if you think everyone slinking around in masks would have made a blind bit of difference

In what way is Czechia not a country?

Away With The Fairies

Yes: valved

Post-covid? When did the virus go away? Can somebody fill me in?

Arrival

trapp wrote: »

Not sure where to start with this.

So you know more than Tony Holohan, Cillian de gascun and so on who have only recommended masks in crowded public areas do you?

Secondly Czechia is not a country.

Thirdly comparing their numbers with ours is absolutely pointless given that the epicentre of the pandemic was in Western Europe.

Guess what we're in Western Europe, Slovakia and 'Czechia' is not.

Some people just love to moan and complain.

Heaven help you if you think everyone slinking around in masks would have made a blind bit of difference

Omg, you are literally retarded lmao!!!

Let me walk you through this, I'll even do it in a very basic and visual manner, although it will include a bit of deducing on your own part.

Better start with a definition of the term 'deducing' though:

deduce
/dɪˈdjuːs/
Learn to pronounce
verb
gerund or present participle: deducing
1.
arrive at (a fact or a conclusion) by reasoning; draw as a logical conclusion.
"little can be safely deduced from these figures"

Czechia

Map of Europe

Italy was the epicenter of the virus outbreak in Europe. You say We're in Western Europe and so closer to the epicenter of the outbreak. Let's compare:

Ireland to Italy distance

Slovakia to Italy distance

Czechia, A COUNTRY, distance to Italy

fr336

Yes: surgical

trapp wrote: »

Some people just love to moan and complain.

Yeah I know the sort alright, trapp

Seanergy

Yes: valved

trapp wrote: »

Other than that no need and thankfully the public have been smart about this.

Defo wouldn't credit the Irish Public for being smart about the slow mask uptake, HSE media and state are due all the credit, they did alot of hard work in the opening 8 weeks of the pandemic bashing mask wearing.

Many elders lives could have been saved if all HCW's had been masked up from the start = poor HSE mask policy.

If the Indo were to do a poll in the morning, I bet you 20-30% of the general public would say they are confused about if masks work and if they should wear one or not.

xhomelezz

Yes: valved

trapp wrote: »

Not sure where to start with this.

So you know more than Tony Holohan, Cillian de gascun and so on who have only recommended masks in crowded public areas do you?

Secondly Czechia is not a country.

Thirdly comparing their numbers with ours is absolutely pointless given that the epicentre of the pandemic was in Western Europe.

Guess what we're in Western Europe, Slovakia and 'Czechia' is not.

Some people just love to moan and complain.

Heaven help you if you think everyone slinking around in masks would have made a blind bit of difference

What to say to your post. I was born in Czech republic and I can assure you it is a country. If you think you are the winner, cuz u are in the west of Europe..ah well whatever. Been living in Ireland for last 14 years and can tell u I feel like a winner less and less, it's more like I'm throwing my taxes into bottomless pit And them two experts you mentioned, well they could do better, much better.

trapp

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

In what way is Czechia not a country?

Czech Republic not Czehia

xhomelezz

Yes: valved

trapp wrote: »

Czech Republic not Czehia

Czechia Czech republic all the same. Man where are u from? Did you get any education, geography and maybe English and maths etc...

tromtipp

Yes: surgical

Czech Republic or Czechia, both correct legal names of the country. The EU and UN both now use the short form in official documents.

Arrival

trapp wrote: »

Czech Republic not Czehia

Actually feel sorry for you if you're an adult

martingriff

Arrival wrote: »

Actually feel sorry for you if you're an adult

Ah now how many people have heard the name as that before. I would have had to verify before I could be 100% sure. I suppose unless contect helped (and no I have not seen the original message yet)

Edit: have read now would have guessed maybe at the country

RollieFingers

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Trapp you need to go back and brush up on your geography my poor man.

Arrival

Anyone else watching the Space X launch and notice how everyone in the control room is wearing masks? What are those top class scientists and engineers thinking, they should employ the anti mask boards experts to set things straight!

boggerman1

Can someone explain to me an anti mask wearing gob****e the logic of a cyclist on his own in the countryside wearing a god damn mask.whst the hell is he afraid of catching cause it won’t be the bloody thing anyway.the mask wearing brigade are going to cause more respiratory problems for themselves down the road that bloody Covid 19.

Seanergy

Yes: valved

boggerman1 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me an anti mask wearing gob****e the logic of a cyclist on his own in the countryside wearing a god damn mask.whst the hell is he afraid of catching cause it won’t be the bloody thing anyway.the mask wearing brigade are going to cause more respiratory problems for themselves down the road that bloody Covid 19.

Could be pollen related or maybe the cyclist doesn't like swallowing insects!

Bogger, heads aren't wearing masks because they are afraid of catchin the bloody thing, brainwashed garbage.

Seanergy

Yes: valved

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Away With The Fairies

Yes: valved

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tromtipp

Yes: surgical

I was amazed the difference my cotton mask made to my hay fever. I can certainly see why a cyclist might have converted to wearing one. Saves the sufferer from all that respiratory discomfort, but also means that if they do sneeze, it isn't all over anyone else.

drunkmonkey

No: other

tromtipp wrote: »

I was amazed the difference my cotton mask made to my hay fever. I can certainly see why a cyclist might have converted to wearing one. Saves the sufferer from all that respiratory discomfort, but also means that if they do sneeze, it isn't all over anyone else.

A blocked nose due to allergies etc this time of year is a good thing in a pandemic professor Luke said the other day, sneezing is getting the crap out, the blocked nose is stopping the virus coming in.