McGiver wrote: » from the beginning of the epidemic in Europe, I had strongly supported DIY cloth masks approach as opposed to government organised distribution of surgical masks
Morby wrote: » I have to take a flight later on this week (essential travel) and I'm not one bit looking forward to it. To make it worse, I need to get public transport (on a bus for a few hours to Dublin airport) hanging around the airport for a few hours and then the flight itself. I'm in a high risk, vulnerable category and I'm terrified of picking up and contracting anything and even worse, passing it on, especially as I'm minding my elderly parents at the moment. How can I best minimise my risk and reduce my chance of exposing myself to and picking up anything? I'm planning on wearing a mask and goggles and gloves, but is there anything else I can get? Ideally I would love to get some sort of protective overalls that I could wear on the day and strip off immediately the other side when I land. It may seem a bit OTT and it probably is, but it will be worth it if it gives me some sort of peace of mind while I have to make this journey. The problem is I don't know what sort of mask or face visor I should be getting, or even what sort of protective overalls? I'm thinking something plastic and disposable? What should I be Googling to find what I'm looking for or even better yet if someone could point me in the right direction please as every website I'm checking everything I'm looking for is either sold out or only available in vast quantities to the trade. What terms should I be searching for for protective outer wear gear? If anyone knows of anything that might be suitable, I would really appreciate hearing from you. Thanks
Morby wrote: » I have to take a flight later on this week (essential travel) and I'm not one bit looking forward to it.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » What will it be like going through airport security now? Would they allow someone with mask, goggles and a suit go through? They expect you to take things off. Can you bring cleaning wipes to clean your own tray as well, are those trays ever cleaned? but then you can't bring liquids, so would they allow cleaning wipes with liquid in the wipes?
stephenjmcd wrote: » Of course they wouldn't let someone wearing all that go through.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » Found it, while not HSE, it's from government but they're all the same useless shower. Page 4 mentions this thing is spread when someone speaks.
YFlyer wrote: » Mask on The Tonight Show now.
tobefrank321 wrote: » If CV was on the mask he's transferred it to his hands or vice versa.
Seanergy wrote: » Quality of masks is going to become the big issue. At least the ECDC have the balls to say wearing a bull**** facecovering is going to be fcukall good to you on a flight.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Take anything that lad says or does with a truckload of salt..he's an absolute head banger
Seanergy wrote: » Article from today's IT Incredible how often Dr Nabarro turns up on Irish radio. He truned up to prop up Ireland's 2 meter rule but accidentally put his foot in it, not that world media will pick it up. In his 2nd paragraph he admits that 30% of droplets go over 1 meter. Dr Nabarro told RTE Today with Sarah McInerney on Monday morning that 70 per cent of droplets from a person’s cough will travel within one metre, and that “very few of them travel further than two metres”. He also drops afew comments on facemasks, saying not to take them off on a plane to eat or drink, which is good advice. He punched below the belt with his quality of mask wearing comment though. Quality of masks is going to become the big issue. At least the ECDC have the balls to say wearing a bull**** facecovering is going to be fcukall good to you on a flight. EXTRACT FROM TODAY"S IT “The WHO and others have said the best distance to keep away from people if you want to avoid inhaling a droplet is two metres. That’s because that will keep you safe 99 per cent of the time but you can greatly reduce risk even at one metre because 70 per cent of the droplets will stick within one metre.” Dr Nabarro said it is a balance of risk, and a choice that must be made based on a personal set of circumstances. If you really want to reduce the risk of picking up an infection stay at least two metres away, he said. “But if you are in a difficult situation where you have to be in close proximity to someone, if you’re providing care or if you are working in factory where two metres doesn’t work you can still greatly reduce the risk by being one metre away,” according to Dr Nabarro. Ventilation, the weather, and an individual’s style of coughing are three factors that can affect the transmission capacity of the virus, Dr Nabarro said. On the issue of face masks Dr Nabarro said “a poorly worn face mask is no good”, and that he believes that the “quality of mask wearing is going to become a big issue”. He said: “If you are sitting next to somebody on a flight that has a nasty cough and you happen to take your face mask off to eat or drink you might end up getting the coronavirus.” He added that in order for the face mask to be effective on a flight he believes that it would have to be worn for the flight’s duration.
Seanergy wrote: » Thanks A. Would love to be corrected but I believe that is the first reference to speak spread by authority in Ireland with regard to covid-19. Shambles of a guide. It's basically make sure everyone has tissues, lots and lots of tissues. This guide has identified speaking as a source of transmission, but does not provide a solution or a protocall when speaking or being spoken to. Gross negligence again. If someone is speaking without a mask they are loading the environment and loading inanimate objects. Putting sheets of perspecs up around the workplace is not addressing the source of transmission, it's purely covid-19 decoration (because of our unwillingness to embrace mask wearing). Pretty much only advice regarding masks in the workplace in this guide is to put one on a person showing symtoms as you guide them to a place of quartintine or the exit. Respiratory hygiene is wearing a mask. Don't be a snob put a mask on your gob.
paleoperson wrote: » This is false. Any sort of makeshift face covering will help, even a scarf. I suspect the reason people are thinking this is because of how most people know that some masks are useless for if you want to be safe while painting or spraypainting. All masks help.
McGiver wrote: » This guy doesn't know his stuff. The 2m distance is an arbitrary nonsense with no basis in science. Cough droplets can travel 7-8 m.
dfx- wrote: » What's the coronavirus load after an 8m cough? Or 1m?
Boggles wrote: » What is the required amount of "coronavirus load" to infect a person?
dfx- wrote: » That would indeed be the next question. I don't think anyone knows this. Papers have said they haven't measured the 'infectivity' of the droplets or that it was not detected. How much of the 8m droplets would get into the respiratory tract?
