Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

road_high · 24-05-2020 10:44pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

He lost me with his “ Dont loose the run of yourselves “
Jesus ,,9 weeks in lockdown , doing exactly what was asked of us . Not seeing grandchildren for weeks on end , standing in queues for milk , having my hair cut by my husband , having a walk on the same road for 6 weeks , not seeing family or friends .Crying on whatsapp with my granddaughter because she was lonely
And he comes out with a patronising “ dont loose the run of yourselves “
Christ on a bike

No offence to anyone but Harris is definitely on the spectrum somewhere.
He’s odd as fcuk, the ****e he comes out isn’t normal, it’s kind of stuff I’d expect from someone that lived alone with a nanny in some country estate in Victorian times. Oddly his background isn’t remotely like this

VillageIdiot71 · 24-05-2020 10:57pm

hopalongcass wrote: »

They still have substantially less deaths than the UK with about 3 times the population.

The lockdown enthusiasts were posting videos from Ecuador a couple weeks ago sadly for them it failed to materialise,there is no pandemic we have not seen any country hit numbers that are much worse than a seasonal flu.Italy has tapered off as has Spain.How can there be a pandemic without numbers higher than an average flu.

People have really lost the plot with this one,surely with a pandemic one country out of the whole world using all different kinds of measures would have to have become overrun by now 6 months into it,but it hasn't happened.

And, just giving than sense of proportion, if the estimates that Ireland could effect "up to" 80,000 deaths was valid, then Brazil should be looking at "up to" 4 million deaths.

Its like a grand delusion on a global scale. When the dust settles their needs to be a deep inquiry into how the world went so bonkers, and why we're so slow to wake up.

Quantum Erasure · 24-05-2020 10:59pm

RobitTV wrote: »

This video shows how hysterical some people have become. Queen curtain twitcher.

https://twitter.com/JoshManMode/status/1263637559873277955

that video is from last year, what's your point?

edit: the stairs aren't even there any more....

https://twitter.com/heady_wook/status/1263904877115133952

stephenjmcd · 24-05-2020 11:00pm

Supposedly from today,if it is or not I dont know. And until it can be confirmed it's from this weekend I'll take it with a pinch of salt but it really wouldn't look good if it is.
https://twitter.com/jordan3collins/status/1264670466863661064?s=19

alta stare · 24-05-2020 11:04pm

py2006 wrote: »

You can go 5km, and you can very easily do 40km while staying within that radius of your home.

How do you know you haven't passed it on to somebody? How do you know you won't get it from somebody?

Na mate i will cycle a lovely scenic route where i will enjoy the beautiful countryside that we have. I won't get depressed off my face whilst waiting for this nonsense fade out. I will be out again Monday for another cycle and i am certainly looking forward to it.

bb1234567 · 24-05-2020 11:09pm

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Supposedly from today
https://twitter.com/jordan3collins/status/1264670466863661064?s=19

Surely couldn't be true, don't think he'd take that risk in such a public place knowing how bad it would look

Quantum Erasure · 24-05-2020 11:12pm

How tall is Leo? hard to judge but they *could* be standing 2 metres apart...

stephenjmcd · 24-05-2020 11:15pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

Surely couldn't be true, don't think he'd take that risk in such a public place knowing how bad it would look

No idea, just got sent it myself and in the replies to one of the tweets theres this(picture attached).

Can't find the same video having been posted online before today. Like I said its appearnelty from today, if it is or not I dont know. And until it can be confirmed it's from this weekend I'll take it with a pinch of salt but it really wouldn't look good if it is.

VillageIdiot71 · 24-05-2020 11:15pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

Surely couldn't be true, don't think he'd take that risk in such a public place knowing how bad it would look

The date is crucial. Could be a year old.

So his only offence might be going topless with mates. An image I'm trying to forget, frankly.

KiKi III · 24-05-2020 11:18pm

VillageIdiot71 wrote: »

The date is crucial. Could be a year old.

So his only offence might be going topless with mates. An image I'm trying to forget, frankly.

The idea of Leo going topless at all seems so unlikely to me! He just doesn’t seem laid back enough.

Quantum Erasure · 24-05-2020 11:19pm

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No idea, just got sent it myself and in the replies to one of the tweets theres this(picture attached).

Can't find the same video having been posted online before today. Like I said its appearnelty from today, if it is or not I dont know. And until it can be confirmed it's from this weekend I'll take it with a pinch of salt but it really wouldn't look good if it is.

is that his partner he's standing beside? its hard to judge if there's 1.5 metres or 3.5 metres between them and the other pair....

stephenjmcd · 24-05-2020 11:21pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

is that his partner he's standing beside? its hard to judge if there's 1.5 metres or 3.5 metres between them and the other pair....

Yeah it's his partner, the video in the tweet would be a better angle. Picture just shows someone else also saw them.

I agree hard to see distance, but given what's going on and them doubling down on the 2m it's not a great look.

Rodin · 24-05-2020 11:25pm

Either a coincidental garda passing or he has a minder. Id have thought the minder would be plain clothes

hamburgham · 24-05-2020 11:27pm

double jobbing wrote: »

tbh Simon Harris should be removed from his post. Not only is he incompetent but you get the distinct feeling this vengeful nerd hasn't seen the inside of a pub more than a dozen times and would be quite happy to keep them closed until 2022.

It’s vindictive now and has NOTHING to do with health, it’s a power trip as that’s all they have now as they’ve been shown to be total morons, from the very beginning telling us that nursing homes didn’t need to restrict visitors.

Danonino. · 25-05-2020 12:19am

RobitTV wrote: »

This video shows how hysterical some people have become. Queen curtain twitcher.

https://twitter.com/JoshManMode/status/1263637559873277955

That video is a classic but is 4+ years old

Smegging hell · 25-05-2020 12:26am

SusieBlue wrote: »

If you typically earn less than €350 a week, aka part time or casual workers, you will have to pay back the difference.

If you work full time and typically earn more than €350 a week you won’t owe anything. That was my understanding of it anyway.

Where does your 'understanding' come from?

Guy:Incognito · 25-05-2020 12:57am

Metroid diorteM wrote: »

Get your vitamin D. Dont join crowds or parties for a while but it's time to get back to work.

If the idiot masses were capable of common sense there wouldnt be a need to lock anything down. But they quite clearly are not.

Hand washing was met as this mysterious new invention brought from the new world for people to marvel at , when functioning adults should have been washing their hands regularly all their lives already.

People were told the dangers and the reaction was to pack in to pubs.

MrDavid1976 · 25-05-2020 5:48am

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If the idiot masses were capable of common sense there wouldnt be a need to lock anything down. But they quite clearly are not.

Hand washing was met as this mysterious new invention brought from the new world for people to marvel at , when functioning adults should have been washing their hands regularly all their lives already.

People were told the dangers and the reaction was to pack in to pubs.

What pubs are you talking about?

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 7:11am

Piece in the Irish times this morning saying that Varadkar is considering an announcement in early June to bring forward the reopening if numbers continue as they are or fall further.

Article seems to suggest that phase 4 could be brought forward to phase 3 for the end if June. No mention of phase 5.

Also says minutes from NPHET in March show De Gascun flagging that 2m social distance would prove difficult and that the recommendation was to be 1m but 2m if possible.

Cina · 25-05-2020 7:16am

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Piece in the Irish times this morning saying that Varadkar is considering an announcement in early June to bring forward the reopening if numbers continue as they are or fall further.

Article seems to suggest that phase 4 could be brought forward to phase 3 for the end if June. No mention of phase 5.

Also says minutes from NPHET in March show De Gascun flagging that 2m social distance would prove difficult and that the recommendation was to be 1m but 2m if possible.

I'm guessing there will still be five phases, but that they'll move aspects of 4 forward to 3 and 5 forward to 4. I doubt they'll want people back in the office who don't need to be before phase 5, for example, because there's no need for it.

But maybe they'll have the cop on to realize that they don't need to keep hairdressers shut til phase 4 or shopping centers shut til phase 5, and let restaurants open sooner as long as they've the right measures in place.

And hopefully, let people travel the f*cking country to see their families.

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 7:21am

Cina wrote: »

I'm guessing there will still be five phases, but that they'll move aspects of 4 forward to 3 and 5 forward to 4. I doubt they'll want people back in the office who don't need to be before phase 5, for example, because there's no need for it.

But maybe they'll have the cop on to realize that they don't need to keep hairdressers shut til phase 4 or shopping centers shut til phase 5, and let restaurants open sooner as long as they've the right measures in place.

And hopefully, let people travel the f*cking country to see their families.

Oh yeah no doubt there'll be a phase 5, I just meant that there was no reference to it moving but yes I suspect brought forward to phase 4 date.

Hopefully the stupid travel limit even of 20k is done away with so people can visit family without wondering if they're going to get stopped by the gardai

Cina · 25-05-2020 7:23am

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Oh yeah no doubt there'll be a phase 5, I just meant that there was no reference to it moving but yes I suspect brought forward to phase 4 date.

Hopefully the stupid travel limit even of 20k is done away with so people can visit family without wondering if they're going to get stopped by the gardai

Absolutely.

Though my partner already travels about 25km (within Dublin, on the M50) to see her family once a week. But only to sit outside in their garden and not get within 2km of them, so it's fine.

It just makes no sense that it's OK for someone to do that within Dublin limits but I'm barred from doing the exact same with my family because they live in their country. Here's hoping I actually get to do it before late July, now.

ChelseaRentBoy · 25-05-2020 7:28am

Cina wrote: »

Absolutely.

Though my partner already travels about 25km (within Dublin, on the M50) to see her family once a week. But only to sit outside in their garden and not get within 2km of them, so it's fine.

It just makes no sense that it's OK for someone to do that within Dublin limits but I'm barred from doing the exact same with my family because they live in their country. Here's hoping I actually get to do it before late July, now.

2km :eek: Bit extreme no?

lord quackinton · 25-05-2020 7:37am

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0525/1140341-vat-receipts-coronavirus/

Good morning
Reality is coming and it’s people who will be received state benefits and those who are on low incomes that will be hit the most as cuts will hurt financially and also affect them on education, health, housing
- this crisis is not going to make us a socialist nirvana, it will lead to more of the haves and have nots just as did post 2008 but much worse this time

People just need to wake up , everything is not going to be ok

VonLuck · 25-05-2020 7:40am

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Piece in the Irish times this morning saying that Varadkar is considering an announcement in early June to bring forward the reopening if numbers continue as they are or fall further.

Article seems to suggest that phase 4 could be brought forward to phase 3 for the end if June. No mention of phase 5.

Also says minutes from NPHET in March show De Gascun flagging that 2m social distance would prove difficult and that the recommendation was to be 1m but 2m if possible.

I read that article and they're suggesting that some aspects of the July 20th phase could be brought forward to June 29th. Unfortunately nothing mentioned for June 8th.

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 7:42am

VonLuck wrote: »

I read that article and they're suggesting that some aspects of the July 20th phase could be brought forward to June 29th. Unfortunately nothing mentioned for June 8th.

I wouldn't suspect anything to deviate from the June 8th phase, they just won't take any chances. I'd be more hopefully of 3&4 coming together and 5 brought up to mid July.

Apart from that I dont see much change myself

alta stare · 25-05-2020 7:44am

stephenjmcd wrote: »

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Hopefully the stupid travel limit even of 20k is done away with so people can visit family without wondering if they're going to get stopped by the gardai

Each week i travel about 320km to collect and drop off my daughter. No travel restriction is going to stop me from doing so nor have the Gardai at any checkpoint iv come across. I'm amazed at the amount of people who have stopped taking their kids just because they think they cannot travel. Some kids are missing on out having much needed interactions with both parents because of this stupid travel restriction when there is no need. Anyone parent who has to travel to see their kids can do so irrespective of what the travel limit is. Doing so is far more important than ahereing to some rediculous restriction.

The sooner it is done away with the better as it means those people in fear of meeting a checkpoint can finally go out and see their families.

munsterlegend · 25-05-2020 7:48am

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

2km :eek: Bit extreme no?

Could just ring them.

munsterlegend · 25-05-2020 7:50am

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I wouldn't suspect anything to deviate from the June 8th phase, they just won't take any chances. I'd be more hopefully of 3&4 coming together and 5 brought up to mid July.

Apart from that I dont see much change myself

The Irish Times also said previously that the school might reopen in mid May so I wouldn’t be casting too much veracity to the story.

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 7:51am

alta stare wrote: »

Each week i travel about 320km to collect and drop off my daughter. No travel restriction is going to stop me from doing so nor have the Gardai at any checkpoint iv come across. I'm amazed at the amount of people who have stopped taking their kids just because they think they cannot travel. Some kids are missing on out having much needed interactions with both parents because of this stupid travel restriction when there is no need. Anyone parent who has to travel to see their kids can do so irrespective of what the travel limit is. Doing so is far more important than ahereing to some rediculous restriction.

The sooner it is done away with the better as it means those people in fear of meeting a checkpoint can finally go out and see their families.

Oh I agree and I've gone further than 5k and even 20k myself but I know people who want to travel like the distance you've mentioned to see family but wont because of the fear that's been instilled that they'll be stopped at a checkpoint and could be arrested

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 7:52am

munsterlegend wrote: »

The Irish Times also said previously that the school might reopen in mid May so I wouldn’t be casting too much veracity to the story.

Well to be fair so did leading members of government. Someone is leaking info out, albeit to perhaps gauge the general public opinion, who knows.

alta stare · 25-05-2020 8:03am

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Oh I agree and I've gone further than 5k and even 20k myself but I know people who want to travel like the distance you've mentioned to see family but wont because of the fear that's been instilled that they'll be stopped at a checkpoint and could be arrested

The funny thing is though that it actually says in the emergency legislation that was brought in that people could travel to tend to family members and for those who have to travel to take their kids dont do it because of the restrictions then they are fools. Dont get me wrong iv had members of the Gardai try tell me it isnt classed as essential travel but when you show them the above part in the legislation then what can they do but let you through? Thankfully they are no longer doing checkpoints on any route i take.

MrDavid1976 · 25-05-2020 8:05am

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well to be fair so did leading members of government. Someone is leaking info out, albeit to perhaps gauge the general public opinion, who knows.

France opened up some schools today. They really don’t care for their people.

ednwireland · 25-05-2020 8:10am

well the lock down seems to be drifting away plenty of non local cars up here yesterday, surfboards and kayaks on the roof of cars. i suspect this lockdown (ish) will breakdown without the governments help. just like people locked down and went work from home before the government did, i suspect they will be following - again

opinionated3 · 25-05-2020 8:12am

Anyone else hear of the quotes attributed to a professor Gerry Killeen this morning on RTE? Utterly depressing stuff if what he says is true. Might as well turn the key shut on the economy and all our mental health......

facehugger99 · 25-05-2020 8:18am

alta stare wrote: »

Each week i travel about 320km to collect and drop off my daughter. No travel restriction is going to stop me from doing so nor have the Gardai at any checkpoint iv come across. I'm amazed at the amount of people who have stopped taking their kids just because they think they cannot travel. Some kids are missing on out having much needed interactions with both parents because of this stupid travel restriction when there is no need. Anyone parent who has to travel to see their kids can do so irrespective of what the travel limit is. Doing so is far more important than ahereing to some rediculous restriction.

The sooner it is done away with the better as it means those people in fear of meeting a checkpoint can finally go out and see their families.

It is truly frightening the amount of people that have outsourced their critical thinking to politicians and bureaucrats.

I remember the morning after the initial lockdown announcement, there was a guy on here wondering if he could travel back home from Dublin to his wife and kids.

Some people are just more comfortable being told what to do all the time.

Penfailed · 25-05-2020 8:19am

alta stare wrote: »

Each week i travel about 320km to collect and drop off my daughter. No travel restriction is going to stop me from doing so nor have the Gardai at any checkpoint iv come across.

The travel restriction doesn't apply in this situation.

setanta1984 · 25-05-2020 8:20am

ednwireland wrote: »

well the lock down seems to be drifting awat plenty of non local cars up here yesterday, surfboards and kayaks on the roof of cars. i suspect this lockdown (ish) will breakdown without the governments help. just like people locked down and went work from home before the government did, i suspect they will be following - again

All we're doing now is stubbornly refusing to let people make a living and avail of services and an education.
Everyone I know has broken at least some aspects of the social restrictions by now.

Penfailed · 25-05-2020 8:21am

Cina wrote: »

Absolutely.

Though my partner already travels about 25km (within Dublin, on the M50) to see her family once a week. But only to sit outside in their garden and not get within 2km of them, so it's fine.

It just makes no sense that it's OK for someone to do that within Dublin limits but I'm barred from doing the exact same with my family because they live in their country. Here's hoping I actually get to do it before late July, now.

...but it's not okay for someone to do that within Dublin limits. The rules are the same for everyone.

25-05-2020 8:23am

opinionated3 wrote: »

Anyone else hear of the quotes attributed to a professor Gerry Killeen this morning on RTE? Utterly depressing stuff if what he says is true. Might as well turn the key shut on the economy and all our mental health......

What did he say?

prunudo · 25-05-2020 8:28am

opinionated3 wrote: »

Anyone else hear of the quotes attributed to a professor Gerry Killeen this morning on RTE? Utterly depressing stuff if what he says is true. Might as well turn the key shut on the economy and all our mental health......

Is that the guy from one of the Cork universities, if so, he was on the tonight show last week, scaremongering of the highest order. People like this shouldn't be given a voice in the media only feeds into anxiety and fear.

Ginger n Lemon · 25-05-2020 8:28am

lord quackinton wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0525/1140341-vat-receipts-coronavirus/

Good morning
Reality is coming and it’s people who will be received state benefits and those who are on low incomes that will be hit the most as cuts will hurt financially and also affect them on education, health, housing
- this crisis is not going to make us a socialist nirvana, it will lead to more of the haves and have nots just as did post 2008 but much worse this time

People just need to wake up , everything is not going to be ok

Very good article.

"The biggest decline in VAT is expected to be from lower spending on transport, followed by restaurants and bars."

It is very obvious that we rely on pubs and restaurants A LOT for VAT revenue, a very significant 2bn + VAT revenue. And they need to be assisted not burdened with covid monitor employees or requiring to get a silly "covid insurance" OR that business bankrupting 2m rule. go 1m like most developed European countries, or 1.5m max.

plodder · 25-05-2020 8:32am

opinionated3 wrote: »

Anyone else hear of the quotes attributed to a professor Gerry Killeen this morning on RTE? Utterly depressing stuff if what he says is true. Might as well turn the key shut on the economy and all our mental health......

I heard it, and thought it was a terrible interview. He was saying the curve needs to be crushed rather than flattened. The interviewer didn't ask how it would be kept out after it is crushed though. I'd like to hear a proper interview with him though where he is asked some harder questions.

opinionated3 · 25-05-2020 8:33am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What did he say?

Basically that ANY relaxation of restrictions is going to lead to a devastating second wave, that the current lockdown isn't strict enough and should have been implemented way sooner than it actually was

25-05-2020 8:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

What did he say?

Here is some of the general gist.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/guaranteed-that-second-wave-will-come-when-they-ease-restrictions-says-ucc-professor-1001500.html

We are doomed basically.

Popquiz_hotshot · 25-05-2020 8:35am

Time to legalise weed along with opening "cafes" etc. Regulate it and the revenue from the tax alone on it will help the economy recover!

JRant · 25-05-2020 8:40am

It's a very human trait to be slow relinquishing power and that what we are seeing now. The CMO, NPHET, and the other scientist don't want to let go of the reigns. This is where strong leadership is required to keep them in check. Unfortunately we have a bunch of soft ministers Leo at the helm who are afraid to take any sort of responsibility.

plodder · 25-05-2020 8:40am

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Here is some of the general gist.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/guaranteed-that-second-wave-will-come-when-they-ease-restrictions-says-ucc-professor-1001500.html

We are doomed basically.

Though Heather Humphreys was on after him and pointed out that we should have a vaccine long before four years. Pity the interviewer didnt ask him about that.

Whirlaway · 25-05-2020 8:41am

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Here is some of the general gist.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/guaranteed-that-second-wave-will-come-when-they-ease-restrictions-says-ucc-professor-1001500.html

We are doomed basically.

Are we seeing this doomday scenario in other countries that are easing restrictions? Was that question put to him? Or is it too early to tell?

Blaze420 · 25-05-2020 8:41am

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Here is some of the general gist.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/guaranteed-that-second-wave-will-come-when-they-ease-restrictions-says-ucc-professor-1001500.html

We are doomed basically.

Scaremongering bull****, has there been evidence of a 2nd wave in any country that eased restrictions yet (and by wave I mean a big increase not a couple of new cases)? Nope. Even if there would be 2nd wave there would also be 3rd, 4th, 5th waves etc if lockdown was repeated and eased over and over until a vaccine is available. It's hard to understand what world these "lockdown forever" merchants live in but it's not reality.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings