Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

fritzelly wrote: »

Do you really need Tommy just for Belfast and Vincent for the rest of NI - i mean how much news actually happens outside Belfast

I think Tommie is the NI editor and Vincent is the correspondent.

RTE is going nowhere, don't get your hopes up, its a inoperable tumor dug in to deep to be removed, they know where the bodies are buried

fly_agaric wrote: »

What are your other sources for news about Ireland?

Doesn't seem to be much out there TV wise (Sky News?).
Newspapers are having a hard time of it. Most of the newspaper sites are pay-walled and have their own "biases" and concentrations of ownership of course. Radio might be a bit better (?).

So that leaves the wonderful web...
I suppose I can see the attraction of an RTE free media landscape in Ireland now. Should be heaven for the likes of anti vaxxers, conspiracy theory "experts" and the assorted fruits and nuts from the extreme right and left ends of the political spectrum that agitate regularly on here for their favourite poison.

I'd say we'd end up circling the same drain as the US very quickly.

Here is the truth , you are insignificant, you cannot alter the course of the nation, the powers that be care not what you think, they have their plans and will carry them out regardless of what you think.
Pay no attention to the news. its going to happen one way or another, nothing you can do about it.
You should take notice of what is happening in your local news/area. Get involved in local issues, here you can make a difference, on a nationwide, EU and world wide level, you are a nobody, money talks are you do not have it.
Accept it and make your local community better , the big picture is out of your control, so don't get worked up about it

fly_agaric wrote: »

That little life lesson/word to the wise does not seem to follow from that post...did I annoy you at some point in the past?

Was it the implied criticism of the US "infotainment" type media that riled you given how you tried to spell tumour?

What are the benefits as you see it of excising the "tumor" of RTE?

No offence was intended, was not a personal attack.
Between auto correct and a dodgy keyboard typing is not in the queens English.
A few years ago IMF came into Ireland, i got a phone call from Brother on continent,1 hour ahead of Ireland, "main story on the news, what is going on?" well i dont know brother, i'll get the 6:01 news and phone you back.
Roll on the 6:01 news and not a word about the IMF, switch to Sky News and it is top story, i learned that day that RTE is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Irish government.
The powers that be tell us RT news is Russian propaganda
Why should any other new organisation like the BBC be any different?
So i now care not for the news fed to me by the government, i just concern myself with local news i can verify.

I think no matter what country you live in the main news channels are always skewed one way or another (for whatever reason) in some of their reporting

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story in tomorrows Sunday Business Post about RTE making a €12million offer for stake in Maximum, that was Joe.ie and Her.ie, jesus fooking wept if that is true what in the jaysus are they doing in control of that level of licence payers money to blow on dumb ass arsehole projects...

Bailing out a member of the golden circle, we are not in it and and those in it don't care about the optics.
Lets be honest for less than €12million RTE could create a top of the range website, so this is nothing more than a bail out for a member of the golden circle, a Feffing disgrace
Not complete control, but a stake, what are we getting for our tax money 20%?

fritzelly wrote: »

Or....you know...build a player that actually works (oh wait they spent that much on it already)

I've been doing research on the Player the last 3 weeks, I have discovered that it being completely the biggest load of fooking sh!t ever released on the world is nothing whatsover to do with network problems, it's purely down to the adverts on it. If you "obtain" the ad free version it works like a Swiss clock and I'm loving it so to speak

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I've been doing research on the Player the last 3 weeks, I have discovered that it being completely the biggest load of fooking sh!t ever released on the world is nothing whatsover to do with network problems, it's purely down to the adverts on it. If you "obtain" the ad free version it works like a Swiss clock and I'm loving it so to speak

Sky news works flawless on Youtube.
Why cant we have RTE on Youtube with Geo location restrictions?
Could be done for a fraction of the cost of a dedicated streaming service

Buck_rodgers wrote: »

Sky news works flawless on Youtube.
Why cant we have RTE on Youtube with Geo location restrictions?
Could be done for a fraction of the cost of a dedicated streaming service

Then how will they justify giving Johnny (cousin of the daughter of the wife of...) millions of euros

If you check the HTML of the player it does say Made in China on the player

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

An earlier version of the Player.

Tell me more (but that was crap as well)

Buck_rodgers wrote: »

Any other money saving ideas for Dee Forbes, post them here, together we can save RTE millions

Not having an actor brought in for Liveline to read emails received from 'teachers'.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have begun to notice how patchy the news offering online from RTE is. I’m not talking specifically about RTE News Now; I have a smart home thingy now which you can programme to tell you what the weather, commute time and news etc. So I get it to give me the news headlines on the Beeb and RTÉ

It’s noticeable that when I wake up, around 6 am, the BBC headlines are usually timed around 4.15 am (give or take) but the RTÉ one varies from, say, 6pm or 8pm the evening before. Monday morning was particularly lackadaisical: the report was from Sunday morning, 1140 IIRC.

I wonder why?

I just asked my Google Home for the headlines. The RTE update was from 1445 in Friday. The DW one (which includes video) was 2 hours old.

Buck_rodgers wrote: »

No offence was intended, was not a personal attack.

That seemed sort of personal, but if it was not intended fair enough.
I do take an interest in politics internationally etc. I fully realise that it is a spectator sport in most ways and what joe bloggs thinks and feels about it all is almost irrelevant. Tagline of the politics forum they have on this site is "discussing how others rule the world".

Buck_rodgers wrote: »

A few years ago IMF came into Ireland, i got a phone call from Brother on continent,1 hour ahead of Ireland, "main story on the news, what is going on?" well i dont know brother, i'll get the 6:01 news and phone you back.
Roll on the 6:01 news and not a word about the IMF, switch to Sky News and it is top story, i learned that day that RTE is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Irish government.
The powers that be tell us RT news is Russian propaganda
Why should any other new organisation like the BBC be any different?
So i now care not for the news fed to me by the government, i just concern myself with local news i can verify.

Yes RTE is a state broadcaster, as is the BBC but to make equivalence with Russia Today/RT is not fair. Unless you have become so cynical that you believe the country is not really a democracy? It is exactly the same as Russia, so there's no point voting, no point in paying attention to any news media (above a parish newsletter??) because it is all just lies told in the service of the state, or some other interest depending on who owns the media in question etc.
I can't agree with that.

I think I remember the question being put by RTE in the run up to the bailout (what exactly is going on here, will the IMF be coming in to Ireland with a "programme" etc) + they were brushed off and not answered by the govt of the day (until it all came out in the wash).

I'm not sure if you are right it was confirmed from outside first, but I have seen that effect in some other news stories (a clearer view given from outside, or stories picked up externally that have an omerta over them locally). I have seen this apply to the Independent/Irish Times (i.e. local commercial news media) vs stories that are run in the Sunday Times (UK) so it is not a problem exclusive to RTE.

As above I'd see one of RTE's key roles as telling us what going on in Ireland + about the internal politics here. Foreign institutions deciding the fate of the whole country from a high perch in an extraordinary situation falls a bit outside that.

IMO people do need some relatively trustworthy information sources looking a bit wider than just their own parish/local community if they are to participate in democracy. Does RTE have bias - yes. Main one is deference to the govt. of the day (regardless of political persuasion of that govt.) because they always hold the purse strings.

Getting rid of it completely as advocated by many posters in the thread would not help the situation. I'd expect the vacuum left to be quickly filled by something worse than RTE.