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Clerical Officer 2020

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    #812
    Blanco100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    murphy15 wrote: »
    to be honest most people in our department are from the country & have not a penny after rent is paid a lot a renting rooms etc in naas kilcock leixlip and most are aiming to get down the country eventually

    Just goes to show that there is zero need for these desk jobs to be based in Dublin, its beyond stupid.


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    #813
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭doc22


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Just goes to show that there is zero need for these desk jobs to be based in Dublin, its beyond stupid.

    Dublin is where the HQ of the Departments ,minister and Oireachtas are. Decentralization was a disaster


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    #814
    ladz
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭ladz


    Does anyone know where i might find examples of civil service interview questions?
    Back when i was a c.o. for the public service, my interview was all knowledge based i.e. Figures, grants info, expenditure, services provided that kind of thing, very little related too the job of a c.o. Is this the case for civil service?


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    #815
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,178 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    ladz wrote: »
    Does anyone know where i might find examples of civil service interview questions?
    Back when i was a c.o. for the public service, my interview was all knowledge based i.e. Figures, grants info, expenditure, services provided that kind of thing, very little related too the job of a c.o. Is this the case for civil service?

    They won't ask you anything like that. It's all about the competencies for the civil service interview.


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    #816
    Newport81
    Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Newport81


    allysangel wrote: »
    There’s 1617 candidates on the panel in Galway and 1187 on the panel in Mayo .

    Does this mean I’ll get an interview or what?


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    #817
    EO2019
    Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭EO2019


    A friend who’s a tco said that she called about co panel and they said they’ve started calling for interviews in some counties but are only interviewing when vacancy has been identified. So looks like no more panels just straight calling from your number from here.


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    #818
    xavier28
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭xavier28


    Placed 881 for Leitrim I'm not very hopeful :P


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    #819
    Ace of Hearts
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Ace of Hearts


    EO2019 wrote: »
    A friend who’s a tco said that she called about co panel and they said they’ve started calling for interviews in some counties but are only interviewing when vacancy has been identified. So looks like no more panels just straight calling from your number from here.

    That's interesting. Any idea on the counties in question?


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    #820
    Boxer50
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Boxer50


    Would a better order make more sense so, what do you mean by the age and gender comment??


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    #821
    Boxer50
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Boxer50


    Can someone answer this query I have, I was placed no 7 on Tco panel, answered the very same on the Co panel and placed 990??? I'm really confused!


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    #822
    Alv_M
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Alv_M


    Boxer50 wrote: »
    Can someone answer this query I have, I was placed no 7 on Tco panel, answered the very same on the Co panel and placed 990??? I'm really confused!

    Less people would apply for TCO panel then pernament panel.


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    #823
    Linda2linda
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭Linda2linda


    Boxer50 wrote: »
    Can someone answer this query I have, I was placed no 7 on Tco panel, answered the very same on the Co panel and placed 990??? I'm really confused!

    I’m exactly the same. I answered answers same as TCO questioner. It’s a pain. I emailed TCO this week and my OOM has gone up by 30 they said because a number of candidates were reinstated to the panel this is very unfair. I scored over 1000 on CO panel. Not looking hopefully on any of the panels now 🀦*♀️


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    #824
    Belle23
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭Belle23


    EO2019 wrote: »
    A friend who’s a tco said that she called about co panel and they said they’ve started calling for interviews in some counties but are only interviewing when vacancy has been identified. So looks like no more panels just straight calling from your number from here.

    I actually emailed them earlier today asking for clarification on this, as from the stage 1 results email, i read it this way as well, that there would be no panels.. waiting on answer!


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    #825
    telebingo94
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭telebingo94


    Best of luck to everyone.

    I scored OOM 626 for Dublin. Does anyone know if this is a good enough # to qualify for an interview?

    I emailed them and they replied basically saying the same thing as on our message board - 'based on their OOM as vacancies arise'. Will just have to wait and see.


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    #826
    Ek1313
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭Ek1313


    Alv_M wrote: »
    Less people would apply for TCO panel then pernament panel.

    I agree. And it's also based on experience.for example people who had 4 tco contracts done will be higher than someone who just had 1


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    #827
    SB1982
    Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭SB1982


    Ek1313 wrote: »
    I agree. And it's also based on experience.for example people who had 4 tco contracts done will be higher than someone who just had 1

    TCO experience has no bearing on OOM for permanent roles or the OOM assigned to you. There is no crossover between panels.


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    #828
    pjcpolly
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭pjcpolly


    Thank you for your email. We will be inviting candidates in by the number of vacancies we have e.g. if we receive 3 vacancies for Dublin, we will invite only 3 candidates for those vacancies.



    At the moment we only have a small number of vacancies for Co. Sligo and Co. Limerick and those interviews are being held today.



    In past clerical officer competitions, candidates who chose two region choices were expected to come in for interview regardless of which region they wanted first. For the Clerical Officer 2020 – in which the majority of candidates have chosen two regions, it will run slightly different.



    As an example, suppose a candidate has chosen Co. Sligo and Co. Limerick on their application form. When a vacancy comes in for Co. Limerick and we reach the candidate’s OOM, we will contact the candidate and notify them. The candidate will then be required to choice, if they wish to proceed with their application for Co. Limerick and be interviewed for that region only. By doing so, they are removed from the Co. Sligo panel. If they decide to turn down Co. Limerick, they are gone from that panel, and will need to wait until their OOM is reached for Co. Sligo.


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    #829
    jaffa20
    Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Ok, if that's how they are doing it, i've no chance of an interview with an OOM in 150's in Kildare so :(


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    #830
    pjcpolly
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭pjcpolly


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    Ok, if that's how they are doing it, i've no chance of an interview with an OOM in 150's in Kildare so :(

    A bit disheartening alright. Nothing but Limerick and Sligo at the moment. Hopefully when things settle a bit there will be more chance.
    I'm nearing the end of my current contract as a TCO so I'm a bit worried that there will be nothing on either competition for a while.

    Placed 24 on OOM fro TCO and 95 & 97 for CO in areas of choice.


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    #831
    xxsammyxx085
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭xxsammyxx085


    Placed no 35 for my county... Say a prayer :)


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    #832
    November Golf
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    pjcpolly wrote: »
    Thank you for your email. We will be inviting candidates in by the number of vacancies we have e.g. if we receive 3 vacancies for Dublin, we will invite only 3 candidates for those vacancies.



    At the moment we only have a small number of vacancies for Co. Sligo and Co. Limerick and those interviews are being held today.



    In past clerical officer competitions, candidates who chose two region choices were expected to come in for interview regardless of which region they wanted first. For the Clerical Officer 2020 – in which the majority of candidates have chosen two regions, it will run slightly different.



    As an example, suppose a candidate has chosen Co. Sligo and Co. Limerick on their application form. When a vacancy comes in for Co. Limerick and we reach the candidate’s OOM, we will contact the candidate and notify them. The candidate will then be required to choice, if they wish to proceed with their application for Co. Limerick and be interviewed for that region only. By doing so, they are removed from the Co. Sligo panel. If they decide to turn down Co. Limerick, they are gone from that panel, and will need to wait until their OOM is reached for Co. Sligo.

    This could actually be a good thing... the most over asked question on Boards is "If I turn down an offer for one county, can I still get an offer for my first choice?"... this will give candidates that choice but without wasting interview time on candidates who aren't willing to accept the offer of the county they were called for.

    They will essentially be eliminating candidates from the OOM without interview and allow panels move quicker through genuinely interest candidates.

    Plus, your not going to waste your time and money going to an interview only to be placed in a panel that later expires. If your called, it means theres a job waiting for you (if you pass the interview that is)

    I think this could be a really positive step.


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    #833
    xxsammyxx085
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭xxsammyxx085


    So if a kilkenny applicant for instance was placed 10 for kilkenny and 15 for carlow... but they want kilkenny... that will automatically bring me down a number for interview in Carlow... that seems to be a good system.


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    #834
    positivepenny
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭positivepenny


    Smegging hell wrote: »
    Sligo and Limerick.

    271 for limerick ðŸ§ðŸ€”🀞🀞.. know there are a number of roles coming in revenue limerick and courts (have friends in both sectors and they were saying that)


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    #835
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭doc22


    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    This could actually be a good thing... the most over asked question on Boards is "If I turn down an offer for one county, can I still get an offer for my first choice?"... this will give candidates that choice but without wasting interview time on candidates who aren't willing to accept the offer of the county they were called for.

    They will essentially be eliminating candidates from the OOM without interview and allow panels move quicker through genuinely interest candidates.

    Plus, your not going to waste your time and money going to an interview only to be placed in a panel that later expires. If your called, it means theres a job waiting for you (if you pass the interview that is)

    I think this could be a really positive step.


    I'd disagree as you have no idea of where the position will be in a neighboring county or own county. So if you get an offer for one end of a county that's you off the panel for the whole county if rejected.

    The panel will move at the exact same pace if not slower due to lack of spare candidates on panels,a position will come in and be taken by someone on the panel regardless. This move doesn't benefit candidates in any way it puts more pressure on them to make blind decisions earlier in process. In the grand scheme PAS aren't processing that many jobs in regional locations to begin with without adding this nonsense


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    #836
    climber123
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭climber123


    Does anyone think that much positions come up in Galway? Were many placed in the last campaign?


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    #837
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,178 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    xxsammyxx085 wrote: »
    So if a kilkenny applicant for instance was placed 10 for kilkenny and 15 for carlow... but they want kilkenny... that will automatically bring me down a number for interview in Carlow... that seems to be a good system.

    If you opted to interview for Kilkenny then you're off the panel for Carlow.


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    #838
    xxsammyxx085
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭xxsammyxx085


    Nigel Fairservice wrote: »
    If you opted to interview for Kilkenny then you're off the panel for Carlow.

    Would hope to interview for carlow.... but if kilkenny came up first I'd have to interview for there and forget about carlow...


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    #839
    pjcpolly
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭pjcpolly


    xxsammyxx085 wrote: »
    Would hope to interview for carlow.... but if kilkenny came up first I'd have to interview for there and forget about carlow...

    Yep...if you accept Kilkenny...if you refuse Kilkenny you have to wait for Carlow to come up and it may not be at the same pace. And your interview would be used for both areas.


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    #840
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,178 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    xxsammyxx085 wrote: »
    Would hope to interview for carlow.... but if kilkenny came up first I'd have to interview for there and forget about carlow...

    You can hold off and wait for Carlow too but then you'd be off the Kilkenny panel if it came up first and you turned down the opportunity to interview for that region. Kilkenny and Carlow are reasonably nearby to each other so I'd probably just take whichever came up first.


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    #841
    November Golf
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    xxsammyxx085 wrote: »
    So if a kilkenny applicant for instance was placed 10 for kilkenny and 15 for carlow... but they want kilkenny... that will automatically bring me down a number for interview in Carlow... that seems to be a good system.

    If another candidate ahead of you choose to go for Kilkenny then yes they would be off the Carlow panel and you would move up 1 space.

    If they turn down kilkenny, they would remain on the panel for Carlow but it would make no different to you because they were ahead of you anyway.


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