Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Roger_007 wrote: »

It’s bonkers the way we think of life and death these days.
The way some people go on you’d think that nobody should ever die of anything. If they do it’s because somebody must have fcuked up.
Medicine is the new religion where everyone is promised they can have eternal life by not dying. In the old religion we were promised eternal life but we had to die first.
Get over it folks. We are all going to die sometime of something. In the meantime let us all get on with living and get the most enjoyment we can from life, or are we going to spend years cowering in fear in case the virus might get us? What good is life if you can’t do the things that make it worth living.

Surviving isn’t living

Roger_007 wrote: »

Get over it folks. We are all going to die sometime of something. In the meantime let us all get on with living and get the most enjoyment we can from life, or are we going to spend years cowering in fear in case the virus might get us? What good is life if you can’t do the things that make it worth living.

It's only been 9 Fucking weeks.

The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse have become 5 !

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

There wouldn't be a second lockdown, so your if is irrelevant as is the rest of your comment.

What makes you so sure?

Spon Farmer wrote: »

I’m seeing a lot of older people though who are probably not gym goers.

Not many who be on sports teams .

I’m just back from the local park where there was what seemed to be a 3 generational football match... literally both genders and three generations together playing...

Kids mid teens to early twenties, 40-50 year olds and about 5 or 6 fellas in their 70’s and one fella who must have been mid 80’s decked out in shorts and a jersey... brilliant stuff...people prioritizing health, being active, their enjoyment of life, being with family and friends...

Pre covid you wouldn’t have seen it... people giving their all for big corporations , who drain your energy and motivations for stuff like that.... there won’t be any going back, peoples priorities are set, life and each other..one upside to all this...people value life, health and each other more... that won’t be changing

Rather than predict a second wave, try to convince others it will happen or otherwise, I’d rather focus my efforts to ensure that neither I nor those close to me.. family AND friends are exhibiting and practicing behavior and habits that can and are likely to contribute to it... vigilance... might take telling somebody close to you, you know these ‘social animals’ things they’d rather not fücking hear with a spiked tone and a volley of expletives but I’m happier having a temporary falling out as opposed to needing to make a 999 call.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You do realise that the quality of life in both health outcomes and services we enjoy are directly related to a functioning economy.

Of course... but re-opening the economy must be done slowly and safely, otherwise disaster beckons. A pile of dead people do not help any economy, they don't spend, they don't consume and they don't work !

Simple really !

A glimpse of the fwits, panty sniffers and assorted fruitcakes who attended the Anti-lockdown protests around the world recently.

Britain



USA





Germany

Cameron326 wrote: »

Most consider that the Irish government has by and large dealt with the crisis well - particularly in comparison to the British. But be that as it may, Ireland is still the 8th worst affected country in the world measured by deaths per capita (excluding the absolutely tiny countries, San Marino etc). So curious to know, what do people think was/has been Ireland's main failing in its Covid approach? Given that certain West European countries - Germany, Portugal, Denmark for example, have fared considerably better. Or is Ireland just a victim of being very close to the chaotic approach going on over the Irish Sea?

Our openness to the outside world through air travel was and is a big factor. Also we were too slow to impose restrictions.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

We can't afford one, the money is not infinite.

The head of the ESRI is on record as saying that theoretically the state could maintain this level of borrowing for up to a year if neccessary. He's not saying that's a good situation, but this idea that the state simply won't find the means to borrow in the short to medium term is overblown. There's a lot of funding mechanisms still open and flowing freely.

Technically we couldn't afford the first lockdown - it has blown a massive hole in the public finances - but when it was deemed necessary it was done. There are times when there's a unique and clear existential threat to public health - and then some of the old ways of thinking about how the state pays for things become a question for another day.

The Department of Health, the HSE and the Government are all on record - each of them multiple times - as saying that restrictions could be imposed if the future situation with the growth of the disease go south. They have been crystal clear: If we go back to a situation like in March, with a spiraling infection rate, then you can bet 100% we'll experience another lockdown situation. It's the only proven way to get a handle on the spread of the virus.

All the which makes how we exit this period beyond crucial. Being extra cautious right now gives us more confidence for the future. I can't understand people's mad desire to throw the shackles of lockdown off with such fervour. It works. The confirmed cases per day has fallen steadily downward week by week. We're now in double figures, based on that trajectory we could conceivably achieve something akin to what New Zealand has within another fortnight to three weeks. That's unbelievable, considering where we were in relation to them a few weeks ago.