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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #6002
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    Nope, fake...

    https://www.thejournal.ie/trump-tweet-debunk-5082065-Apr2020/

    If it was anyone else you'd be suspicious alright :pac:

    ty


  • #6003
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Another 15k cases in Brazil yesterday pushing it up to #3 behind the US and Russia.

    The four countries with the highest cases are now the US, Russia, Brazil and the UK. Four countries where the leaders are worshipped by a significant cohort of the population for spoofing, trolling and flagwaving.

    The effectiveness of good governance and narcissism free leadership in countries is on show here and it would be great for the world if the lessons of this are learned.

    There are a number of issues in the world post-covid, which like covid, cannot be solved by spoofing, denial and diversions such as climate change, international security issues, inequality, tax avoidance etc. Hopefully, just hopefully, the lessons of not putting imbecile in charge of advanced countries might be learned by a sufficient proportion of the country to start fixing things. The US and UK are not tinpot countries but their response has been akin to that of one.


  • #6004
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    marno21 wrote: »
    Another 15k cases in Brazil yesterday pushing it up to #3 behind the US and Russia.

    The four countries with the highest cases are now the US, Russia, Brazil and the UK. Four countries where the leaders are worshipped by a significant cohort of the population for spoofing, trolling and flagwaving.

    The effectiveness of good governance and narcissism free leadership in countries is on show here and it would be great for the world if the lessons of this are learned.

    There are a number of issues in the world post-covid, which like covid, cannot be solved by spoofing, denial and diversions such as climate change, international security issues, inequality, tax avoidance etc. Hopefully, just hopefully, the lessons of not putting imbecile in charge of advanced countries might be learned by a sufficient proportion of the country to start fixing things. The US and UK are not tinpot countries but their response has been akin to that of one.

    Spain is number 3 is it not, albeit with a higher testing rate but the point remains. I see it at 278k with the UK242k


  • #6005
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,583 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Trump is taking Hydroxychloroquine .


  • #6006
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Trump is taking Hydroxychloroquine .

    Allegedly


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  • #6007
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Spain is number 3 is it not, albeit with a higher testing rate but the point remains. I see it at 278k with the UK242k

    Spain is one of the only countries retrospectively adding thousands of positive antibody test results alongside so it cant really be compardd with them anymore


  • #6008
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    Nope, fake...

    https://www.thejournal.ie/trump-tweet-debunk-5082065-Apr2020/

    Generally it's Trump's side that put these out. It's firefighting and makes perfect sense. It falls at the first level of logical scrutiny of course, but by then the work is done.

    He has publicly made idiotic comments on just about every topic imaginable. To the people looking for any reason to excuse him (all of his base), this one is fake ergo they all are.


  • #6009
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    marno21 wrote: »
    Another 15k cases in Brazil yesterday pushing it up to #3 behind the US and Russia.

    The four countries with the highest cases are now the US, Russia, Brazil and the UK. Four countries where the leaders are worshipped by a significant cohort of the population for spoofing, trolling and flagwaving.

    The effectiveness of good governance and narcissism free leadership in countries is on show here and it would be great for the world if the lessons of this are learned.

    There are a number of issues in the world post-covid, which like covid, cannot be solved by spoofing, denial and diversions such as climate change, international security issues, inequality, tax avoidance etc. Hopefully, just hopefully, the lessons of not putting imbecile in charge of advanced countries might be learned by a sufficient proportion of the country to start fixing things. The US and UK are not tinpot countries but their response has been akin to that of one.

    It really is just too funny that they are the top 4. Just need North Korea in there at number 5 now


  • #6010
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Spain is number 3 is it not, albeit with a higher testing rate but the point remains. I see it at 278k with the UK242k

    I hadn't read the caveat that Spain are including seroprevalence tests in the 274k which other countries don't seem to be doing

    Given the lack of seroprevalence testing in other countries including, on a purely PCR based testing rank Spain have 231k and Brazil have 254k.

    It's difficult to compare countries because of these discrepancies, but Brazil on PCR alone will likely overtake Spain on PCR + seroprevalence within 48-72 hours given their current trajectories.


  • #6011
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Only 20% of global deaths today and yesterday were in Europe. Big shift, a month ago 80%+ were in Europe


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  • #6012
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    marno21 wrote:
    The four countries with the highest cases are now the US, Russia, Brazil and the UK. Four countries where the leaders are worshipped by a significant cohort of the population for spoofing, trolling and flagwaving.
    I'm sorry and I'm no fan of Boris Johnson but he doesn't belong in the same sentence as those other three.


  • #6013
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I'm sorry and I'm no fan of Boris Johnson but he doesn't belong in the same sentence as those other three.

    Oh I think he does. Most definitely.


  • #6014
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I'm sorry and I'm no fan of Boris Johnson but he doesn't belong in the same sentence as those other three.

    I don’t have any particular issue with the man but he’s the Prime Minister. The buck stops with him. His Government, his Ministers, he owns this mess. His Party has been in Government 10 years this month now.

    I’m not sure who else is to blame for the UK death toll, the PPE situation, the growth rate etc. If the other three are to blame for their respective countries then this is on him


  • #6015
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    speckle wrote: »
    For the person earlier who thought the may have a cold.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1261943993912430600
    I recovered now. Should I get an antibody test?


  • #6016
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,583 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Seems to me even those who have done an awful job with virus are seeing cases and deaths go way down, it's as if it didn't matter what we did, the virus looks like it's run it's course


  • #6017
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Seems to me even those who have done an awful job with virus are seeing cases and deaths go way down, it's as if it didn't matter what we did, the virus looks like it's run it's course


    There's always a second wave.


  • #6018
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Seems to me even those who have done an awful job with virus are seeing cases and deaths go way down, it's as if it didn't matter what we did, the virus looks like it's run it's course

    For example? The only country that is letting it run it's course is Brazil and Brazil is definitely not looking to be coming out the better of that so far


  • #6019
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/8th-worker-at-jbs-meatpacking-plant-in-greeley-dies-of-coronavirus
    8 workers die at a meat packing plant in Denver.
    What the hell is it with this virus and meat packing plants? So ridiculously random


  • #6020
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/8th-worker-at-jbs-meatpacking-plant-in-greeley-dies-of-coronavirus
    8 workers die at a meat packing plant in Denver.
    What the hell is it with this virus and meat packing plants? So ridiculously random

    I think aside from the working conditions, which does force people into working cheek by jowl for long stretches, some of the issues - if it's like here - come from the fact that many workers may live together in cramped enough living spaces outside of work, travel to and from work together and quite probably socialise with each other too.


  • #6021
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/05/16/did-the-oxford-covid-vaccine-work-in-monkeys-not-really/#6c8735663c71
    This guy is skeptical about the Oxford vaccine trial.


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  • #6022
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    They aren't set in stone but only in so far as the suggested dates may pass without enacting the next phase if the cases/hospitalisations don't keep at a manageable level.

    I really doubt they won’t consider bringing things forward if it makes sense to. I really hope they wouldn’t be so inflexible. It’s an ever-changing situation with more being learned about the virus every single day.


  • #6023
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    American saying Covid is a hoax and God is bigger than the virus, can't say I'm surprised. Any stories closer to home, or do you have to trawl the net to seek these articles out?
    As an aside his obese nature certainly won't help him in the fight against the virus.

    I'm curious, what kind of recounting of experiences of Covid will be acceptable? So far it seems anything can be dismissed - this guy is too fat, Boris Johnson is too old and fat, the muscular guy earlier in the thread today was on steroids/looks healthier after coming out of the ICU. So is the disease only dangerous if a person who had it completes a big checklist that proves they didn't have underlying conditions etc?

    Even some American with silly views is a real person (I assume).


  • #6024
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I really doubt they won’t consider bringing things forward if it makes sense to. I really hope they wouldn’t be so inflexible. It’s an ever-changing situation with more being learned about the virus every single day.

    Yeah - let's say there were almost no cases when we reach June/July, it wouldn't make much sense to move ahead just one phase every three weeks, just because they set some dates a few months earlier.


  • #6025
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Yeah - let's say there were almost no cases when we reach June/July, it wouldn't make much sense to move ahead just one phase every three weeks, just because they set some dates a few months earlier.

    The head of the Department of Health is going to tell the Oireachtas committee today that the virus will be here for years. According to the top story in the Irish Times.

    It most definitely will be about living alongside it, rather than it being completely eradicated.


  • #6026
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I recovered now. Should I get an antibody test?

    There are no antibody tests available here yer


  • #6027
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    tigger123 wrote: »
    The head of the Department of Health is going to tell the Oireachtas committee today that the virus will be here for years. According to the top story in the Irish Times.

    It most definitely will be about living alongside it, rather than it being completely eradicated.

    More depressing news to wake up to :-( Jaysus can they not be some bit positive! :-P


  • #6028
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    tigger123 wrote: »
    The head of the Department of Health is going to tell the Oireachtas committee today that the virus will be here for years. According to the top story in the Irish Times.

    It most definitely will be about living alongside it, rather than it being completely eradicated.

    That's not definite at all, highly likely maybe but I have seen different opinions in the scientific community. Most admit that we do not really know what will happen.


  • #6029
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    tigger123 wrote: »
    The head of the Department of Health is going to tell the Oireachtas committee today that the virus will be here for years. According to the top story in the Irish Times.

    It most definitely will be about living alongside it, rather than it being completely eradicated.

    Listening to him on Morning Ireland at the moment, he was asked about what went wrong in the Nursing homes. I suspect he took a few media training classes, a masterclass in deflection and non answers.


  • #6030
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    leahyl wrote: »
    More depressing news to wake up to :-( Jaysus can they not be some bit positive! :-P

    I think it's more positive in some ways than looking for it to be completely gone. We cant go on like this forever, so it will be about managing it as best we can.

    We'll adapt to it and find new ways of doing things. The first few times I had to queue for groceries I found it really frustrating, but now it's just part of life and it doesnt bother me anymore. Stuff like that.


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  • #6031
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Listening to him on Morning Ireland at the moment, he was asked about what went wrong in the Nursing homes. I suspect he took a few media training classes, a masterclass in deflection and non answers.

    That was the deputy chief medical officer Ronan Glynn on this morning. His comment on not having a resumption date at the moment for some cancer screening services was sickening


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