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How will schools be able to go back in September?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    Have you read any of the updated research or just relying on the boyfriend in law? This is new virus that is developing every day. It was assumed that children could not catch or spread it, that is slowly proving wrong.

    Along with that, we have the development of Paediatric Multisystem Inflammatory Disease, which is becoming more prevelant as doctors know what to look out for. This virus is changing so quickly. The Chinese and other countries are now going back over old cases of chidren to see if they had it.

    If only someone would think of the children!!! No one here apart from the voices in your head has said to keep schools closed, in fact we would all prefer to be back in the classroom. Every one of us is thinking of the children but you have a narraitve in your head that is not for changing.

    IF you knew anything about teaching you will know that a huge part of the job is looking out for children's welfare so we keept in contact with the ones we know are vunerable but that is not going to be discussed with the school parental body so you do not know what teachers are dealing with and it is nit just abuse or neglect.

    You havent received a call maybe becuase your teacher thinks your child is ok and is dealing with the more vunerable children who have issued you would not even believe or know of.
    What exactly would the teacher know about my child, she started in January as maternity leave cover. They finished in march, lots here and in real life agree with me. Seems like from reading your posts you spend most of your time playing games. Maybe a jolt into the real world would do you the world of good. As for the boyfriend in law who she refers to, he is a trainee gp who is currently working in psychiatry. To hear his experience is truly frightening, but yes keep the schools closed that's definitely saving lives.[/QUOTE]

    Just proves what you dont know about how schools work. A teacher is told even if a sub, if there are issues regarding educational, emotional, neglect, medical or other matters about a child in their care. So if there is something that you informed the previous teacher of, it is passed onto the teacher that takes over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    Your poor students, I can only imagine the level of sarcasm you use daily in your "teaching".

    My children dont behave like you, they have manners and respect for people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Hearty80


    There will be the best part of 6 months between the schools closing and them reopening in early September.
    If the brains in the Department of Education and all of the highly qualified teachers can't plan a system or getting opening with all that entails re:physical distancing etc, in 6 months, then Fvck me, we're as well off leaving the kids at home! It's not that complicated sure....

    Obviously way to complicated for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Hearty80


    khalessi wrote: »
    My children dont behave like you, they have manners and respect for people

    There not "your children" although you must have plenty in common with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Hearty80


    khalessi wrote: »
    What exactly would the teacher know about my child, she started in January as maternity leave cover. They finished in march, lots here and in real life agree with me. Seems like from reading your posts you spend most of your time playing games. Maybe a jolt into the real world would do you the world of good. As for the boyfriend in law who she refers to, he is a trainee gp who is currently working in psychiatry. To hear his experience is truly frightening, but yes keep the schools closed that's definitely saving lives.

    Just proves what you dont know about how schools work. A teacher is told even if a sub, if there are issues regarding educational, emotional, neglect, medical or other matters about a child in their care. So if there is something that you informed the previous teacher of, it is passed onto the teacher that takes over.[/quote]

    Are you actually even a teacher?? I dont think so because you seem to have no clue the state schools are in. All I want is some communication from a 20 something year old teacher. Surely that is not too much to ask, you seeing no wrong in your profession is delusional.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    As for the boyfriend in law who she refers to, he is a trainee gp who is currently working in psychiatry. To hear his experience is truly frightening, but yes keep the schools closed that's definitely saving lives.

    Yes, I had seen the reports that there's been a massive increase in the number of psychiatric cases here as a direct result of the lockdown along with dramatic increase in the level of stress seen by workers who actually had to work during all of this (essential workers/front line staff).

    Significant increase in the number of admissions to hospital for mental health (many of them new patients).

    Worst mental health crisis this country has ever seen is looming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    There not "your children" although you must have plenty in common with them.

    Well consideing legally I am in loco parentis while they are in school, they are my children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Hearty80


    khalessi wrote: »
    Well consideing legally I am in loco parentis while they are in school, they are my children.

    Ok then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Hearty80 wrote: »
    Your poor students, I can only imagine the level of sarcasm you use daily in your "teaching".
    Hearty80 wrote: »
    Go back to playing your games, you know nothing of the real world :D
    Hearty80 wrote: »
    Obviously way to complicated for them.
    Hearty80 wrote: »
    There not "your children" although you must have plenty in common with them.


    Mod: You're being an arse. Take 48 hours away from the thread to cop on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    khalessi wrote: »
    Well consideing legally I am in loco parentis while they are in school, they are my children.

    Legal insurance jargon aside they are not your children, they are your students/pupils.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭bullpost


    https://twitter.com/jo_goody/status/1261697274750656512

    This is not a good sign if confirmed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭LeYouth


    wadacrack wrote: »

    There you go. Damn. Don't let them children out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Schools are going to have major issues with having enough staff in September I think. Part time teachers and casual subs won't be able to risk Dublin rents in case of another shut down. Schools rely on these massively anyway, but if everyone with a cough or sniffle is to be sent home, then access to reliable regular subs will be vital. The chronic shortage of subs, and indeed the problems filling even permanent vacancies in many post primary subjects, will be very difficult to manage now. Supervising three or four classes in the hall or splitting up a primary class won't be an option. I think the government needs to look at organising proper subbing supply panels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Scruff101


    I genuinely find it hilarious that teachers who perhaps are working hard claim that every teacher is doing the same level of work and having significant input with their pupils.
    Parents are experiencing varying levels of engagement between different schools. That's a fact. I work in the public service and would never claim that all staff work at same level, thats just ridiculous.

    Nor do I think already busy parents should be running after teachers to get a bit of input if these teachers are allegedly working full days. I've sent work every Friday for the last 4 weeks and have gotten no feedback.

    I'm quite jealous of the parents who have teachers who are really focused on the children and engaging with them in some shape or form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    bullpost wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/jo_goody/status/1261697274750656512

    This is not a good sign if confirmed.

    One case of a teacher, who's father died of Covid-19 last month, doesn't mean there is a massive danger to all teachers. Some people seem to be suggesting waiting until there is a vaccine before schools reopen, do people here, teachers in particular agree with that!

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    If schools return how will they organise social distancing and PPE for everybody if they couldn’t even adequately arrange social distancing and PPE for one set of exam years.

    Personally can’t see them being back in September.teachers aren’t stupid. They won’t be bullied like in the UK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    If schools return how will they organise social distancing and PPE for everybody if they couldn’t even adequately arrange social distancing and PPE for one set of exam years.

    Personally can’t see them being back in September.teachers aren’t stupid. They won’t be bullied like in the UK

    Fine but they should not be paid full wages for sitting at home.

    If people don't want to go back to work and not just teachers by the way they should be on the dole.

    This whole lockdown was about not overwhelming the hospitals or have we forgotten that?

    If people refuse to work they should be sacked if you disagree can you explain why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Look yes there is a virus out there but people need to get back to work.

    Should essential workers take all the risks to support people hiding in their homes on full wages that are higher than most of the essential workers get?

    People are going to die thats life we are all taking the same risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Coneygree


    Fine but they should not be paid full wages for sitting at home.

    If people don't want to go back to work and not just teachers by the way they should be on the dole.

    This whole lockdown was about not overwhelming the hospitals or have we forgotten that?

    If people refuse to work they should be sacked if you disagree can you explain why?

    What teachers are refusing to work? Give the principal, BOM or department a quick phone call if you know of a teacher not doing their job from home.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Coneygree wrote: »
    What teachers are refusing to work? Give the principal, BOM or department a quick phone call if you know of a teacher not doing their job from home.

    I was responding to a post.
    If schools return how will they organise social distancing and PPE for everybody if they couldn’t even adequately arrange social distancing and PPE for one set of exam years.

    Personally can’t see them being back in September.teachers aren’t stupid. They won’t be bullied like in the UK

    Those that refuse to work should be sacked end of story.

    Again I will remind people the purpose of the lockdown was to SLOW the spread only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,464 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    People are going to die thats life we are all taking the same risk.

    No we are not all taking the same risk. The risk varies quite a fcuking lot depending on your health, age and profession.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Scruff101


    Coneygree wrote: »
    What teachers are refusing to work? Give the principal, BOM or department a quick phone call if you know of a teacher not doing their job from home.

    This attitude is so irritating. Do you think parents are making up the fact that some teachers are making no effort.
    I know FOR A FACT the teachers in our school are doing the absolute minimum compared to other teachers in other schools who are doing brilliant work.
    Even so, I have neither the time or the patience to go running after principals, BOM or the Dept. I'm already working full time, minding our kids at home and home schooling. I'm doing enough as it is thank you very much as are many other parents. Plus I really shouldn't have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Coneygree


    Scruff101 wrote: »
    This attitude is so irritating. Do you think parents are making up the fact that some teachers are making no effort.
    I know FOR A FACT the teachers in our school are doing the absolute minimum compared to other teachers in other schools who are doing brilliant work.
    Even so, I have neither the time or the patience to go running after principals, BOM or the Dept. I'm already working full time, minding our kids at home and home schooling. I'm doing enough as it is thank you very much as are many other parents. Plus I really shouldn't have to.

    I dunno, if I was a parent and my child's teacher wasn't pulling their weight I think a phone call would be one of the first things I'd be doing in the morning. And a phone call wouldn't take much longer than the time it took you to type that post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Coneygree wrote: »
    I dunno, if I was a parent and my child's teacher wasn't pulling their weight I think a phone call would be one of the first things I'd be doing in the morning. And a phone call wouldn't take much longer than the time it took you to type that post.

    Was thinking the same thing. He could have sent an email in the time it took to post on Boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    No we are not all taking the same risk. The risk varies quite a fcuking lot depending on your health, age and profession.

    I am not posting from a personal motivation I see reality is going to collide with some people.

    If a person feels they are not healthy enough to continue a job they should be replaced.


    This is real life and life is not always nice the country can not afford to have a big percentage of it's population hiding in their homes longterm on full wages.

    We NOW have high unemployment we are in a deep recession and the national debt is scary.

    Those who decide to get militant may find that it all ends in tears for them.

    By September with every other European nation back at school people may be well advised to be careful how they behave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Scruff101


    Coneygree wrote: »
    I dunno, if I was a parent and my child's teacher wasn't pulling their weight I think a phone call would be one of the first things I'd be doing in the morning. And a phone call wouldn't take much longer than the time it took you to type that post.

    Luckily enough I'm teaching them at the moment and I'm certainly pulling my weight at both my jobs moreso than their teachers are at one job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Scruff101


    Benimar wrote: »
    Was thinking the same thing. He could have sent an email in the time it took to post on Boards.


    I've sent an email every Friday for the past four weeks, no response. Cheers for the suggestion though 👍


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Scruff101 wrote: »
    This attitude is so irritating. Do you think parents are making up the fact that some teachers are making no effort.
    I know FOR A FACT the teachers in our school are doing the absolute minimum compared to other teachers in other schools who are doing brilliant work.
    Even so, I have neither the time or the patience to go running after principals, BOM or the Dept. I'm already working full time, minding our kids at home and home schooling. I'm doing enough as it is thank you very much as are many other parents. Plus I really shouldn't have to.

    How is it possible to know this "FOR A FACT"? I mean,are you spending your days watching them?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Scruff101


    How is it possible to know this "FOR A FACT"? I mean,are you spending your days watching them?

    I apologise, if posting a worklist on a Sunday night constitutes maximum effort then I completely take that statement back.


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