Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

FintanMcluskey · 15-05-2020 09:48AM

Penfailed wrote: »

I'm thinking the post was tongue in cheek. Could be wrong though.

I took it completely out of context if that was the case!

Ginger n Lemon · 15-05-2020 09:49AM

A faster lifting of restrictions has to be considered

"THE NUMBER OF people that a person with Covid-19 is infecting in Ireland has reduced further, the Dáil heard today.

The reproductive rate of the virus refers to how many other people a confirmed case goes on to infect.

Speaking in the Dáil this afternoon, Health Minister Simon Harris said Ireland’s reproductive rate has now fallen to between 0.4-0.6."

https://www.thejournal.ie/reproductive-rate-5098993-May2020/

15-05-2020 09:52AM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

A faster lifting of restrictions has to be on the hands

"THE NUMBER OF people that a person with Covid-19 is infecting in Ireland has reduced further, the Dáil heard today.

The reproductive rate of the virus refers to how many other people a confirmed case goes on to infect.

Speaking in the Dáil this afternoon, Health Minister Simon Harris said Ireland’s reproductive rate has now fallen to between 0.4-0.6."

https://www.thejournal.ie/reproductive-rate-5098993-May2020/

I do love a good mixed metaphor:p

Ginger n Lemon · 15-05-2020 09:54AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I do love a good mixed metaphor:p

Its early :P

Ginger n Lemon · 15-05-2020 10:01AM

On a more serious note, plenty of EU countries have began lifting restrictions as early as mid April. There is clearly no 2nd wave in sight or death spikes for any countries. With every day passing by we get proof of this. Facts.

Surely NPHET has to consider this?

Meanwhile BBC is reduced to reporting below.

"Dr David Nabarro, the World Health Organization's special envoy for Covid-19, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that the UK needs to be "very careful" in opening up from lockdown as it still has "a lot of virus around".

"As soon as movement does restart all over the country there could well be many, many outbreaks," he said.

WHO tries so hard to stay relevant...

15-05-2020 10:01AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This !! If "The Dazzler" is indeed working in the HSE how do they have time to be on Boards all day long complaining ?? If they're off work they should be exhausted and needing to sleep surely

I'm off on AL today. Just cooked a lovely eggs benedict. I was going to locum but the rates weren't great today. Thanks for your concern, comrade.

pgj2015 · 15-05-2020 10:02AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I know Westport very well. I spend a considerable amount of time in the large pharmaceutical on the outskirts of the town.

I get from the tone of your post that tourists are a scourge perhap's?

Without tourism and foreign investment places like Westport loose the romantic appeal rather quickly, I see very little indigenous industry in Westport so tourism is important to such a town.

Be careful what you wish for

I agree. Its like some of the shopkeepers in Spain who hate tourists and look at you like you are scum for some reason. They are probably crying out for tourists now.

FintanMcluskey · 15-05-2020 10:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm off on AL today. Just cooked a lovely eggs benedict. I was going to locum but the rates weren't great today. Thanks for your concern, comrade.

Thats the thing about saving lives, the money just isn't in it anymore

15-05-2020 10:08AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Thats the thing about saving lives, the money just isn't in it anymore

Why such begrudgery? I Locumming would have been in a community pharmacy so it might not have been saving lives. Glad that you hold my job in such high esteem that you think I'm always "saving lives".

Sure all I do is put tablets in boxes and spot when you are lying. Any 12 year old could figure those out easily enough!;)

LiquidZeb · 15-05-2020 10:09AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Thats the thing about saving lives, the money just isn't in it anymore

It's nice to know the thread has its resident Walter Mitty.

growleaves · 15-05-2020 10:13AM

There Is No Evidence Lockdowns Saved Lives. It Is Indisputable They Caused Great Harm

15-05-2020 10:13AM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

It's nice to know the thread has its resident Walter Mitty.

How in any way am I a Walter Mitty? Are suggesting I'm not a pharmacist? That I don't work for the HSE?

is_that_so · 15-05-2020 10:15AM

Penfailed wrote: »

Ah c'mon. It should have been in the planning weeks ago.

In a time of crisis management where the outcome was unknown and it was one of a myriad of issues to monitor?

growleaves · 15-05-2020 10:19AM

is_that_so wrote: »

In a time of crisis management where the outcome was unknown?

If only there had been some hype management along with the crisis management.

The statement that cases will rise 30% every day ('This is inevitable. This cannot be stopped' - Leo V) was proved false right away yet that didn't seem to matter to anyone.

is_that_so · 15-05-2020 10:19AM

growleaves wrote: »

There Is No Evidence Lockdowns Saved Lives. It Is Indisputable They Caused Great Harm

Or how I made a big bunch of numbers from very different circumstances fit my blog post.

growleaves · 15-05-2020 10:22AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Or how I made a big bunch of numbers from very different circumstances fit my blog post.

The "very different circumstances" is the point, and what early opponents of lockdown like Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi were trying patiently to explain to people eight weeks ago.

is_that_so · 15-05-2020 10:22AM

growleaves wrote: »

If only there had been some hype management along with the crisis management.

The statement that cases will rise 30% every day ('This is inevitable. This cannot be stopped' - Leo V) was proved false right away yet that didn't seem to matter to anyone.

As the evidence changes I change my opinion.... Everyone was wrong and that 30% didn't last very long. But those blunt models did give an absolute worst case scenario to prevent.

MadYaker · 15-05-2020 10:24AM

Do all these idiots not realise that the lockdown is the reason we didn't see scenes like Italy and Spain? Has everyone just forgot what happened there?

is_that_so · 15-05-2020 10:29AM

growleaves wrote: »

The "very different circumstances" is the point, and what early opponents of lockdown like Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi were trying patiently to explain to people eight weeks ago.

Countries were following each other with what seemed to be working. We'll see soon enough when the data is analysed which things may work best and that I suspect is unlikely to be one size fits all. One thing it all has exposed is a range of systemic issues in many areas, which is a good thing into the future. Never heard of that guy but please don't link to a bloody YouTube video.

risteard7 · 15-05-2020 10:30AM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

This is the funniest thing I read on boards.

Anyways, you all need to donate your masks to HSE. You need to clap for HSE staff. While they concentrate their efforts on 1 individual in Cork who is on a ventilator.

They are flat out, so much so that they post here and keep us updated on how busy they "are".

PS I am fairly certain Ireland won't be able to afford 1bn a year for single use PPE, so yes you gotta re use your PPE. That is called life we live in.

I'm actually delighted people are starting to see through HSE staff and their sense of entitlement. We have 2 patients in the Covid ward! Yes 2, and one of them will be discharged probably today or tomorrow. We have 12 empty beds on my unit out of 24, none of them are covid related. I like others have been asked to start taking annual leave!

None of us are "heroes" I cant buy into that crap. I've a job for life in the public sector with a pension, why would I complain? Nurse's have this sense of entitlement and love to blow how great they are. I see it everyday. Yes I'm sure certain Hospitals ICU departments were busy at some stage but not for long. I haven't had to shop for 8 weeks with all the food that has been dropped into us, while most people are struggling, but sure yea I'm a "hero" I just cant sit here and lie to say it's busy when it's not

is_that_so · 15-05-2020 10:30AM

MadYaker wrote: »

Do all these idiots not realise that the lockdown is the reason we didn't see scenes like Italy and Spain? Has everyone just forgot what happened there?

Would this be all the idiots you see around outside giving each other the virus, while you're out yourself?

growleaves · 15-05-2020 10:31AM

Countries were following each other with what seemed to be working.

Perhaps but they ought to at least use more scepticism in hindsight, rather than seek retroactive justification.

stephenjmcd · 15-05-2020 10:34AM

From RTE
A draft document from the Italian government says free movement within separate regions of the country will be allowed from 18 May.

Ginger n Lemon · 15-05-2020 10:34AM

MadYaker wrote: »

Do all these idiots not realise that the lockdown is the reason we didn't see scenes like Italy and Spain? Has everyone just forgot what happened there?

Well seeing how Spain & Italy are opening up bars and restaurants 1st of June, it does seem like everybody forgot what happened there. Or maybe they realised Covid isnt deadly enough to warrant poverty.

Reality is, Sweden did not do what Ireland did. Sweden did not experience Italy or Spain. In fact Ireland number of deaths per 1 million is 300, In Sweden its 340.

Lockdown did seem to have very little effect on deaths. On the economic front though, 28% unemployment versus 7% in Sweden. Yeah. Not good.

is_that_so · 15-05-2020 10:34AM

growleaves wrote: »

Perhaps but they ought to at least use more scepticism in hindsight, rather than seek retroactive justifications.

The luxury of hindsight is that it can make everything just fine. This has been a learning experience all round and one that we hope can make future responses to such situations the very best they can be.

SNNUS · 15-05-2020 10:35AM

The Netflix party will be over soon and reality will bite.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0515/1138560-donohoe-on-reopening-of-economy/

growleaves · 15-05-2020 10:36AM

but please don't link to a bloody YouTube video

Lol

I prefer text myself. He is a Microbiology and Infectious Diseases expert at the University of Johannes-Gutenberg-University in Mainz.

15-05-2020 10:37AM

growleaves, do you think lockdowns saved lives?

Ginger n Lemon · 15-05-2020 10:40AM

SNNUS wrote: »

The Netflix party will be over soon and reality will bite.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0515/1138560-donohoe-on-reopening-of-economy/

My sister is getting these 350 a week. As much as I love her I hope they dont continue this madness. Its absolute nonsense to have 3 month further lockdown for pubs etc while other countries have indoor weddings with 100 - 500 people capacity.

stephenjmcd · 15-05-2020 10:41AM

HSE hosptial report released this morning.

As of 8pm last night there were 59 confirmed covid cases in ICU.

Likewise as of 8pm there were 419 confirmed cases in acute hospitals, that number 24hr previously was 449.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings