Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

What Username Guidelines · 07-05-2020 04:59PM

Interesting reference of Hazard ratio based on age and underlying conditions

https://twitter.com/bengoldacre/status/1258378643979620353?s=20

yourdeadwright · 07-05-2020 04:59PM

Whats the crack with them cutting off the mic for the women asking the question about the non covid patient being out in a COvid ward ,
Was that regards to the teenager in Sligo who people are claiming died after been put in the wrong ward ?

boring accountant · 07-05-2020 05:00PM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

I got 510 in 1996. Didn't sit my mocks, and didn't go in for most of 6th year because the CB's that were still there were still enjoying the last few months of corporal punishment. Reckon I would've got 150-200 points if they were given the decision.

Same here. I got around 200 in my mocks and over 500 in the real thing

AllGunsBlazing · 07-05-2020 05:03PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Whats the crack with them cutting off the mic for the women asking the question about the non covid patient being out in a COvid ward ,
Was that regards to the teenager in Sligo who people are claiming died after been put in the wrong ward ?

Mayo, i thought.

fred funk }{ · 07-05-2020 05:03PM

Really impressive reinfection rates. I'd also love to know what the infection rate is in the general public as most of the new infections are nursing homes etc. must be tiny.

Higgins5473 · 07-05-2020 05:03PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

All we need is "Just asking questions" and we'll have bingo.

And the issue is where and with what? Can somebody please tell me what is so offensive about anything I have posted?

fritzelly · 07-05-2020 05:04PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Whats the crack with them cutting off the mic for the women asking the question about the non covid patient being out in a COvid ward ,
Was that regards to the teenager in Sligo who people are claiming died after been put in the wrong ward ?

Because she was becoming a screaming lunatic

owlbethere · 07-05-2020 05:05PM

MD1990 wrote: »

https://www.football-italia.net/152958/athletes-sick-wuhan-back-october

interestibg story

This here is a huge game changer. In Wuhan where the virus was first detected in December, there was a sporting event and people who attended all got sick with similar symptoms to covid19.

This is huge news.

ACitizenErased · 07-05-2020 05:07PM

I know a few nurses in the CUH who are absolutely convinced they had COVID cases as far back as October.

yourdeadwright · 07-05-2020 05:08PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Because she was becoming a screaming lunatic

I watched it she was NOT screaming ,
She was asking the question and as it was being dodge she keep restating her point in the question ,

As is normal with the new love of the Nation Mr Tony Hoolan used his now famous "its something I'm not aware of " which he started using often during cervix cancer scandal

ACitizenErased · 07-05-2020 05:09PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I watched it she was NOT screaming ,
She was asking the question and as it was being dodge she keep restating her point in the question ,

As is normal with the new love of the Nation Mr Tony Hoolan used his now famous "its something I'm not aware of " which he started using often during cervix cancer scandal

She literally had to be told to stop shouting and stop interrupting. We were all watching it.

political analyst · 07-05-2020 05:09PM

Sweden didn't have a lockdown but it's doing well.

Why did the Irish, British, Spanish, Italian and other European governments not go with the idea of herd immunity?

People are living in misery because they can't travel, they can't have a meal in a restaurant or coffee in a café - they can't even visit relatives!

Furthermore, surgery not related to Covid should still have been allowed to go ahead. Anyone who has severe pain at the moment because the necessary surgery is not being allowed to take place is in a much worse state than most people who have caught SARS-CoV-2 - the official designation for the virus - the symptoms of which are not much different from the flu.

By the way, in my experience, diarrhea is much worse than having an awful fit of coughing.

MayoForSam · 07-05-2020 05:09PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Interesting reference of Hazard ratio based on age and underlying conditions

https://twitter.com/bengoldacre/status/1258378643979620353?s=20

Interesting graph (based on data from 17 million people) - illustrates that there is very low risk for anyone under 40 with no underlying health conditions.

Why are ex-smokers higher risk than current smokers? Nicotine in your system providing some degree of resistance to the virus?

s1ippy · 07-05-2020 05:11PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I watched it she was NOT screaming ,
She was asking the question and as it was being dodge she keep restating her point in the question ,

As is normal with the new love of the Nation Mr Tony Hoolan used his now famous "its something I'm not aware of " which he started using often during cervix cancer scandal

During the first cervical smear scandal. The current smear test issues are ongoing and the ramifications will only be fully seen when the disasters and deaths have already occurred.

An Ciarraioch · 07-05-2020 05:12PM

Sizeable fall in Italian fatalities - 274 today, compared to 369 yesterday:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Mike3549 · 07-05-2020 05:12PM

political analyst wrote: »

Sweden didn't have a lockdown but it's doing well.
.

If you compare Sweden to Uk, Irl, Italy or Spain then yes they are doing ok. But if you look at their neighbouring countries such as Finland or Norway, youll see that they are terrible

Arghus · 07-05-2020 05:14PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

She literally had to be told to stop shouting and stop interrupting. We were all watching it.

It's amazing isn't it?

It was as clear as day and yet you've still got a few who don't accept what happened.

I beginning to think they work for "The Western Press".

iguana · 07-05-2020 05:14PM

JoChervil wrote: »

If you are fit you probably exercise, at once when you feel slightly better, while your body needs all your energy to fight the disease

100% I believe this is the issue. My first symptoms started immediately after a workout. I got a bit breathless during a session that normally wouldn't have me out of breath at all. Then my throat started to hurt and from that point onwards any activity, from walking to the kettle to talking on the phone left me gasping for air. Once I recovered, I'd planned to take it easy and slowly ease back into exercising but I didn't feel like I was recuperating, I just felt normal and like a moron on day 4 I completely and utterly overdid it. I was out of breath again by that night. I'm trying to take it very, very easy now. Walking, stretching, starting to occasionally do tiny bits of strength aimed at strengthening the lungs and diaphragm with the dumbbells that my 7 year old used to use whenever he wanted to join in with me. It's tough because a lot of the time I feel mostly better and I don't feel unwell enough not to be able to workout properly. But I'm pretty sure now it would be the wrong thing to do and I need to increase my activity levels, very, very slowly.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Shouldn’t you be getting a CT scan at this stage? Do they even know it’s a virus? I’m sure you don’t have anything serious as I have but I dealt with recurrent chest infections for a long, long time and was continually fobbed off because of my young age but those chest infections were caused by breast cancer metastases in my lungs. The reduced lung capacity and rib pain I was experiencing meant that I couldn’t clear my throat properly which made me susceptible to chest infections.

I’m not saying you’ll have anything so serious but COVID pandemic or not, it sounds like what you’re experiencing needs further investigation. I put my trust in doctors far too much when they said it was nothing that wouldn’t go away and all I got for it was a death sentence. DO NOT think they won’t make assumptions because you are young. Seriously, be pushy. It’s your life, not theirs.

I've had a chest x-ray, ecg and blood tests. I was thinking of enquiring about a chest CT scan next month if I'm still having symptoms. The thing that's keeping me calm is that there are so very many people having the same prolonged experience as me. Many with a positive Covid diagnosis, many who have had the same hospital tests as me with no obvious indication of a long term condition. Many formerly fit people who have relapsed after exercise. I'm not a medical professional but post viral chest inflammation after a virus that's attacked the chest and lungs, triggered by sudden cardiovascular activity, seems like the most obvious reason we're all experiencing this in a pandemic. Which doesn't mean that for at least some of us, it's not something else.

owlbethere · 07-05-2020 05:14PM

I'm just thinking, with the wuhan millitary games in October, and people who attended got sick, surely it would have started spilling over into Italy before it emerged earlier this year? Because Milan has trade connections with wuhan.

What Username Guidelines · 07-05-2020 05:14PM

MayoForSam wrote: »

Interesting graph (based on data from 17 million people) - illustrates that there is very low risk for anyone under 40 with no underlying health conditions.

Why are ex-smokers higher risk than current smokers? Nicotine in your system providing some degree of resistance to the virus?

Not sure, or why current smokes are less at risk than non-smokers. Matches up with the french finding of low % of smokers hospitalised/diagnosed.

Hypertension being below 1 is interesting too, given that's regularly referenced as a factor.

stephenjmcd · 07-05-2020 05:14PM

Italy reports 1,401 new cases and 274 new deaths bringing total confirmed cases there to 215,858 and 29,958 total deaths.

Away With The Fairies · 07-05-2020 05:15PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I know a few nurses in the CUH who are absolutely convinced they had COVID cases as far back as October.

I don't know what to think anymore.

political analyst · 07-05-2020 05:16PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Whats the crack with them cutting off the mic for the women asking the question about the non covid patient being out in a COvid ward ,
Was that regards to the teenager in Sligo who people are claiming died after been put in the wrong ward ?

That claim is untrue.

https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/38488-questions-raised-over-hospital-treatment-of-ballyhaunis-teenager-who-died-two-weeks-ago

17-year old Sally Maaz, a member of the Syrian community in Ballyhaunis who was born with a congenital heart defect, was admitted to the hospital's Covid-19 ward ten days before she died although she had tested negative for Covid-19 , according to her parents.

However, the family say she tested positive before she died and are questioning why she was admitted to the coronavirus ward.

Sally's parents brought her to the Emergency Department on 14th April after she developed severe back pain and respiratory problems.

She died ten days later on 24th April and was laid to rest in Ballyhaunis.

Her family say they have a number of questions they want answered in respect of the treatment she received at Mayo University Hospital.

ACitizenErased · 07-05-2020 05:16PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I don't know what to think anymore.

I genuinely believe it. These people are on the front line. It'd be easy to compare symptoms for them.

What Username Guidelines · 07-05-2020 05:17PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I'm just thinking, with the wuhan millitary games in October, and people who attended got sick, surely it would have started spilling over into Italy before it emerged earlier this year? Because Milan has trade connections with wuhan.

Unless this we're in the second wave of this and it's mutated to be more virulent than the first? I'm not sure if all pandemics will necessarily follow that pattern, but it could mean that there's less susceptible than previously thought. It is interesting though as to why it suddenly blew up around the world between Feb and March, if it has been around since October.

political analyst · 07-05-2020 05:20PM

Mike3549 wrote: »

If you compare Sweden to Uk, Irl, Italy or Spain then yes they are doing ok. But if you look at their neighbouring countries such as Finland or Norway, youll see that they are terrible

The number of people who have died because of non-Covid surgery not going ahead or because they took their own lives due to mental illness that was aggravated by the lockdown is probably much higher than the Covid death toll.

If Sweden had had a lockdown then its health service would have collapsed because most of the revenue that it depends on would have been wiped out by a lockdown.

Arghus · 07-05-2020 05:21PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Unless this we're in the second wave of this and it's mutated to be more virulent than the first? I'm not sure if all pandemics will necessarily follow that pattern, but it could mean that there's less susceptible than previously thought. It is interesting though as to why it suddenly blew up around the world between Feb and March, if it has been around since October.

Surely the fact that it suddenly blew up around the world in Febuary and March shows that it wasn't present before then and that people who are claiming to have had it back in December in January didn't.

Hyzepher · 07-05-2020 05:24PM

political analyst wrote: »

The number of people who have died because of non-Covid surgery not going ahead or because they took their own lives due to mental illness that was aggravated by the lockdown is probably much higher than the Covid death toll.

Do you just make this stuff up to make your own opinions sound more plausible?

Ficheall · 07-05-2020 05:25PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Sizeable fall in Italian fatalities - 274 today, compared to 369 yesterday:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

But higher than it was 2, 3, or 4 days ago...
On the whole, on the way down, yes, but trying to judge anything from one day's change seems largely unreliable.

Arghus · 07-05-2020 05:26PM

MD1990 wrote: »

https://www.football-italia.net/152958/athletes-sick-wuhan-back-october

interestibg story

It's an interesting story, but there's a lot of allegedly and hearsay in it too.

And also they've made a few mistakes themselves, they claim the first case of Covid was in Italy in Febuary 20th - it was January 31st.

So I wouldn't be leaning too heavily on that story as gospel.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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