Relaxation of restrictions Part II

phobia2011 · 01-05-2020 10:35PM

How are people getting on to him for not being prepared enough? Thought he spoke well and has spoken well for the sake of our country. People saying it’s embarrassing !! I would accept him as our leader for life if it meant we would never have the likes of BoJo or the other numpty in the states, now that **** is embarrassing.

Speakerboxx · 01-05-2020 10:36PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

Many sites never really stopped. Plenty of smaller sites kept going the last few weeks, with the good weather.

Should have been reported tbh.

JoeA3 · 01-05-2020 10:37PM

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Should have been reported tbh.

By who? Personally I applauded them.

Speakerboxx · 01-05-2020 10:38PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

By who? Personally I applauded them.

They are breaking the restrictions for their own greed.

BillyBiggs · 01-05-2020 10:38PM

na1 wrote: »

Just look at China: shutdown the whole city at the end of January. No one allowed to leave.
As a result now they have 80k cases in a 1.39 billion country. and about 700 active cases now. And most of the businesses are fully operational now. no moving restrictions.

Ireland: got the first cases in the end of February. Now we have 4 times higher incident rate than in Hubei province alone, or 70 times higher then in a whole country. And hopefully have most of restrictions lifted at the begin of August.

Would you believe anything the Chinese say? They’ve already been caught out for lying.

uli84 · 01-05-2020 10:39PM

I can’t homeschool my child, it’s unbelievable that school will not reopen, my efficiency is 50% down as it is

Jizique · 01-05-2020 10:39PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Leo has always been an "empty suit". Great at the oul speeches and soundbites for the press. Not so much at actual delivery and results.

This is nothing new.

Wait till our new overlords from SF take over; I hope there is another election to give the people what they want, and give it good and hard. The hardship SF will inflict will be blamed on (1) Frankfurt and Brussels, Germany and the EU; (2) FG, for “leaving the coffers empty”; (3) the dastardly Brits for Brexit; (4) the global oil companies for stealing all out natural resources (at $20 oil).

storker · 01-05-2020 10:39PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

What happened to "all we want is a clear plan?" We have a clear plan, and people are still complaining.

It wasn't the plan they wanted.

Hearty80 · 01-05-2020 10:39PM

phobia2011 wrote: »

How are people getting on to him for not being prepared enough? Thought he spoke well and has spoken well for the sake of our country. People saying it’s embarrassing !! I would accept him as our leader for life if it meant we would never have the likes of BoJo or the other numpty in the states, now that **** is embarrassing.

Really?? Spoke well?? I actually like him and thought he was awful. Maybe he's just very tired.

phobia2011 · 01-05-2020 10:40PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

By who? Personally I applauded them.

Frontlines doing essential works? All well and good till they go home and kill off the people who started it all!!
But at least they got a weeks wage instead of 50-60%
FML!!

phobia2011 · 01-05-2020 10:41PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Really?? Spoke well?? I actually like him and thought he was awful. Maybe he's just very tired.

In comparison to speech’s lately he spoke flawlessly

road_high · 01-05-2020 10:41PM

Speakerboxx wrote: »

They are breaking the restrictions for their own greed.

No. They’re simply trying to keep the wolf from the door. Invoices to pay. I think you “shut up shop” merchants are in for a rude awakening. Unfortunately the insanity will bankrupt and drag us all down too

alwald · 01-05-2020 10:42PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

By who? Personally I applauded them.

You personal applause don't matter an iota...the current restrictions apply to all for the good of the country.

uli84 · 01-05-2020 10:42PM

Also how long is 350€ a week gonna stay?

JRant · 01-05-2020 10:42PM

ixoy wrote: »

Grand, they have a plan and it's fairly detailed. Seems a bit slower than other countries but at least it's adjustable.

Now am I missing something or have they decided on targets for the phases? Is it negative growth in new cases? Confirmed cases? Or are these targets a bit vague? It would be helpful to define the targets for people, at least for the next phase, so we've an idea of how we're getting on. If nothing else, if people see it veering off they might be more inclined to stick to it to help achieve a goal. If they don't know the goal, then it's trickier.

In the 23 page doc they released, check out page 4. It has this list;

1. Trajectory in incidence of disease
2. Trajectory in number of cases and clusters in residential healthcare
settings
3. Trajectory in number of deaths
4. Hospitalisation and ICU occupancy
5. Programme to consistently sample, test and contact trace.
* and other criteria as may arise in the future.

Point 2 is a nonsense, it has no bearing on locking an entire country down. However, the most telling one is the note at the end, expect the goalposts to be shifted quite a lot.

storker · 01-05-2020 10:42PM

Lollipop95 wrote: »

I see that offices may start to reopen on June 8th, I wonder how long WFH will remain in place?

Once offices re-open, I'd say that will largely depend on the employer in question, but it's hard to imagine the government not continuing to encourage it, given that it assists social distancing in the workplace and also lowers traffic levels and emissions, so there's every reason to do so.

JoeA3 · 01-05-2020 10:42PM

Speakerboxx wrote: »

They are breaking the restrictions for their own greed.

I and most reasonable people see it differently. Mainly young men, working in isolation, getting on with it, working hard, no danger to anyone. Not sitting on their holes collecting €350 a week.

FintanMcluskey · 01-05-2020 10:42PM

gozunda wrote: »

Fintain it would appear that you have recently joined boards simply to post criticism about the politics you dont like. Most of oddly enough on the Corona forum. Fair enough I suppose - but I hope you at least getting paid for it because most of the comments like the above are complete tripe.

So we do have a formed government? The answer you give will indicate the credibility of your opinion

helimachoptor · 01-05-2020 10:43PM

uli84 wrote: »

I can’t homeschool my child, it’s unbelievable that school will not reopen, my efficiency is 50% down as it is

My sister in law is our childminder so she stays and goes home (I'm on a 3 day week) How people can mind their kids and be productive is mind boggling, it's age dependent but for me they're so young it's impossible.

road_high · 01-05-2020 10:44PM

uli84 wrote: »

Also how long is 350€ a week gonna stay?

No mention of it but not very long I’d imagine.

FintanMcluskey · 01-05-2020 10:44PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

By who? Personally I applauded them.

Your on your own tonight Joe it seems. They got the wish they wanted. We will reap the rewards come August with all the lives they have saved. Hopefully the building sites that guy wants to report are immediately shut

helimachoptor · 01-05-2020 10:45PM

uli84 wrote: »

I can’t homeschool my child, it’s unbelievable that school will not reopen, my efficiency is 50% down as it is

My sister in law is our childminder so she stays and goes home (I'm on a 3 day week) How people can mind their kids and be productive is mind boggling, it's age dependent but for me they're so young it's impossible.

Snugglebunnies · 01-05-2020 10:45PM

I'm suffering big time mentally now. Like everyone else I haven't seen my family or friends in over 7 weeks. I haven't seen my boyfriend in that long either.
I've tried to stay optimistic up to now but the part that's really killing me is there is no mention in the plan on when we can stop socially distancing from loved ones.
I wouldn't risk going into my parents house until I'm sure they would be safe but am I supposed to stay 2 metres away from my other half for the foreseeable future?
I suffer long term for depression and anxiety and I'm not alone in that, many people are the same. I know it can't be helped but this lock down is going to be the end of some people in a different way to covid. It's just about impossible to keep my spirits up at this stage.

irishrover99 · 01-05-2020 10:45PM

Lollipop95 wrote: »

I see that offices may start to reopen on June 8th, I wonder how long WFH will remain in place?

July 20th it still says that they will allow people who can’t work from home to return to work. So I take it, that means WFH stays in place till the end. I won’t be returning until I get my childminder back as I trust her and I wouldn’t be prepared to take anyone new at the moment.

FintanMcluskey · 01-05-2020 10:46PM

alwald wrote: »

You personal applause don't matter an iota...the current restrictions apply to all for the good of the country.

No the current restrictions apply because they dont have testing numbers in place. Did you see the guy reading from a crumpled up piece of paper on television like Mike Basset with his team selection on a box of fags

irishproduce · 01-05-2020 10:47PM

JRant wrote: »

What 2 week isolation is this?
Not being smart but people entering the country are under no obligation to isolate for 2 weeks.

Sorry, as I understand it, the 2 week self isolation when coming from.abroad still applies. Is that not the case?

Speakerboxx · 01-05-2020 10:48PM

road_high wrote: »

No. They’re simply trying to keep the wolf from the door. Invoices to pay. I think you “shut up shop” merchants are in for a rude awakening. Unfortunately the insanity will bankrupt and drag us all down too

No it's not. We were given restrictions to stop the spread of the virus. But some big headed greedy builders had other ideas and couldn't care less about spreading the virus. We cant personally be bankrupt if we are all dead. Wise up.

C__MC · 01-05-2020 10:48PM

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

I'm suffering big time mentally now. Like everyone else I haven't seen my family or friends in over 7 weeks. I haven't seen my boyfriend in that long either.
I've tried to stay optimistic up to now but the part that's really killing me is there is no mention in the plan on when we can stop socially distancing from loved ones.
I wouldn't risk going into my parents house until I'm sure they would be safe but am I supposed to stay 2 metres away from my other half for the foreseeable future?
I suffer long term for depression and anxiety and I'm not alone in that, many people are the same. I know it can't be helped but this lock down is going to be the end of some people in a different way to covid. It's just about impossible to keep my spirits up at this stage.

Just go and see him after the 18th.
There can't be one law for gemma o doherty and co and expect gopd irish citizens not to see their loved ones even if there a certain kms away
If northern Ireland people can do what they want in the republic, citizens like ourselves can do likewise
Look after yourself

Thelonious Monk · 01-05-2020 10:48PM

BoatMad wrote: »

Time to storm the dail, throw out the doctors and take back control , 6 months limited to 20 km , madness

Yeah except you'll do nothing, just complain behind your keyboard. There seems to be people like you and people who are just getting on with things as best they can.

uli84 · 01-05-2020 10:48PM

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

I'm suffering big time mentally now. Like everyone else I haven't seen my family or friends in over 7 weeks. I haven't seen my boyfriend in that long either.
I've tried to stay optimistic up to now but the part that's really killing me is there is no mention in the plan on when we can stop socially distancing from loved ones.
I wouldn't risk going into my parents house until I'm sure they would be safe but am I supposed to stay 2 metres away from my other half for the foreseeable future?
I suffer long term for depression and anxiety and I'm not alone in that, many people are the same. I know it can't be helped but this lock down is going to be the end of some people in a different way to covid. It's just about impossible to keep my spirits up at this stage.

Im the same, pressure at work (wfh) is adding up when i have 7 year old literally on me all the time, i start thinking of ways out of this.

Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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