Relaxation of restrictions Part II

timmy_mallet

alwald wrote: »

Sigh!!
You are unable to manage you own child and yet you blame that on other people and/or the virus...you should look at your own parenting skills instead.

How lovely. Empathy for the potential sufferers of covid19, but none for those struggling to cope with the demands of the lockdown.

Ferris_Bueller

Mixed emotions the past few hours, I am happy to see a detailed plan and it seems like a fairy logical one, during the week I said that was all I wanted was to see a plan and have something to look forward to again. On the other hand it is hard looking through it thinking that we might not see friends or family until late July, the 20km limit is definitely one of the things I can see people really not bothering with the longer it goes on. Not a huge fan of Leo nor do I particularly dislike him, but listening to him speaking on the Late Late makes me feel a bit more at ease and clearer on the whole roadmap.

GSBellew

JRant wrote: »

What 2 week isolation is this?
Not being smart but people entering the country are under no obligation to isolate for 2 weeks.

You better tell the DFA

https://www.dfa.ie

And the HSE

https://www2.hse.ie/file-library/coronavirus/covid-19-public-health-passenger-locator-form.pdf

Snugglebunnies

alwald wrote: »

Sigh!!
You are unable to manage you own child and yet you blame that on other people and/or the virus...you should look at your own parenting skills instead.

I'm unable to manage not because I'm a bad parent (thanks for that by the way) but because I'm frazzled with anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts. It doesn't help that my child had no playmates and looks to me for constant attention. It would wear anyone down.

I said my living situation in not nice but who exactly did I blame?

da_miser

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

I'm suffering big time mentally now. Like everyone else I haven't seen my family or friends in over 7 weeks. I haven't seen my boyfriend in that long either.
I've tried to stay optimistic up to now but the part that's really killing me is there is no mention in the plan on when we can stop socially distancing from loved ones.
I wouldn't risk going into my parents house until I'm sure they would be safe but am I supposed to stay 2 metres away from my other half for the foreseeable future?
I suffer long term for depression and anxiety and I'm not alone in that, many people are the same. I know it can't be helped but this lock down is going to be the end of some people in a different way to covid. It's just about impossible to keep my spirits up at this stage.

At the start of WW2 men where sent of to war with no return date, "You will get home when we win or are defeated", just shows you how we are living in the time of weak people, this virus could be the start of society rejecting the mollycoddling of people, be for the best for them and society in the long term.
Life has never been easier, yet here we have have people complaining that they have to stay at home and collect €350 a week for not working.
Just a few generations ago families where separated in work houses or sent to botany bay, had to work in the mills and all types of terrible dangerous jobs for subsistence pay.
Get a grip, its a extended holiday at home FFS.

FintanMcluskey

alwald wrote: »

Sigh!!
You are unable to manage you own child and yet you blame that on other people and/or the virus...you should look at your own parenting skills instead.

You seem a charming type of poster. Compassionate I imagine

phobia2011

JoeA3 wrote: »

Nonsense? In your opinion.

Not naive, just realistic and capable of weighing up relative risks in my own mind. I perceive the risks on an open building site as absolutely minuscule, something thats clearly widely agreed upon, considering they are going to be the first to be allowed back (officially).

I'm not willing to hide in my bedroom for another 2 months and I wouldn't dream of snitching on hardworking locals.

Not really about snitching joe, it’s all well and good, god forbid, you get the virus, touching **** on site, unknown for 2 weeks, then spread it site wide. The fact it has no signs for 2 weeks is the problem, kill off parents and grandparents or even ill kids. But at least you weren’t sitting on your arse. The government have said they will pay you 50-60% of you wages to stay at home, unprecedented. But crack on, sure we’ll be kept!!

C__MC

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Mixed emotions the past few hours, I am happy to see a detailed plan and it seems like a fairy logical one, during the week I said that was all I wanted was to see a plan and have something to look forward to again. On the other hand it is hard looking through it thinking that we might not see friends or family until late July, the 20km limit is definitely one of the things I can see people really not bothering with the longer it goes on. Not a huge fan of Leo nor do I particularly dislike him, but listening to him speaking on the Late Late makes me feel a bit more at ease and clearer on the whole roadmap.

Is the Garda legislation remaining in law until then?

SAMTALK

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No hes not. Hes listening to the gaslighting dr Tony.
There is no government, no objections. The testing and nursing home fiasco is why we wont reopen until August. There is no experts only Simon Harris who has experience with 18 previous corona virus so at least he knows his game

Yeah that's right it's just Tony and Leo together !! How naive you are

The virus is the reason we can't re open completely

JRant

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

I'm suffering big time mentally now. Like everyone else I haven't seen my family or friends in over 7 weeks. I haven't seen my boyfriend in that long either.
I've tried to stay optimistic up to now but the part that's really killing me is there is no mention in the plan on when we can stop socially distancing from loved ones.
I wouldn't risk going into my parents house until I'm sure they would be safe but am I supposed to stay 2 metres away from my other half for the foreseeable future?
I suffer long term for depression and anxiety and I'm not alone in that, many people are the same. I know it can't be helped but this lock down is going to be the end of some people in a different way to covid. It's just about impossible to keep my spirits up at this stage.

Go see your boyfriend and give him a big hug. You'll feel a whole lot better doing that then staying locked up for the next 4 months. You need to weigh up what you are comfortable with but if he's been on lockdown as well then what have you to lose.

timmy_mallet

Speakerboxx wrote: »

But risk of death is there.

Blimey. I'll put it another way. Your post was 99.5% baloney and hyperbolic nonsense. We are not all going to die.

Speakerboxx

JoeA3 wrote: »

Nonsense? In your opinion.

Not naive, just realistic and capable of weighing up relative risks in my own mind. I perceive the risks on an open building site as absolutely minuscule, something thats clearly widely agreed upon, considering they are going to be the first to be allowed back (officially).

I'm not willing to hide in my bedroom for another 2 months and I wouldn't dream of snitching on hardworking locals.

They are risks when there are various people working in close promixy. Can you stay 2m apart in a construction site for long periods of time? Hard to do but sure what is 2 meters?

JoeExotic81

alwald wrote: »

Sigh!!
You are unable to manage you own child and yet you blame that on other people and/or the virus...you should look at your own parenting skills instead.

Just had to quote this in case someone had a moment of brain activity and deleted the post. In a sea of posts that are insensitive, head in the sand, completely unaware of actual people's realities, it took some effort to be the worst. But bravo alwald, bravo.

FintanMcluskey

timmy_mallet wrote: »

How lovely. Empathy for the potential sufferers of covid19, but none for those struggling to cope with the demands of the lockdown.

Its all about saving lives Timmy.
Me thinks though its more about free money for months on end

FintanMcluskey

JoeExotic81 wrote: »

Just had to quote this in case someone had a moment of brain activity and deleted the post. In a sea of posts that are insensitive, head in the sand, completely unaware of actual people's realities, it took some effort to be the worst. But bravo alwald, bravo.

Lives over economy were the pleas Joe!!!

JoeExotic81

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Lives over economy were the pleas Joe!!!

Haha exactly, the hypocrisy and irony!!

FintanMcluskey

JoeExotic81 wrote: »

Haha exactly, the hypocrisy and irony!!

One post can reveal all one needs to know about character.

SAMTALK

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Its all about saving lives Timmy.
Me thinks though its more about free money for months on end

Not everyone is getting "free" money actually. Some of us are still working

If you think people who are agreeing with plan are doing so because they want to continue getting covid payments you really need to have a rethink

FintanMcluskey

SAMTALK wrote: »

Yeah that's right it's just Tony and Leo together !! How naive you are

The virus is the reason we can't re open completely

Youre posting here in complete ignorance to the current occurances or lack of in the Dail. Every other European parliament has had debates over this. Tony is holding us to ransom

FintanMcluskey

SAMTALK wrote: »

Not everyone is getting "free" money actually. Some of us are still working

If YOU are still working have a small bit of consideration for the 1.2m that are not.

degsie

BoatMad wrote: »

Time to storm the dail, throw out the doctors and take back control , 6 months limited to 20 km , madness

Put your beer down and go to bed

alwald

timmy_mallet wrote: »

How lovely. Empathy for the potential sufferers of covid19, but none for those struggling to cope with the demands of the lockdown.

Sufferer of their own parental skills you mean!

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

I'm unable to manage not because I'm a bad parent (thanks for that by the way) but because I'm frazzled with anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts. It doesn't help that my child had no playmates and looks to me for constant attention. It would wear anyone down.

I said my living situation in not nice but who exactly did I blame?

I never said you are a bad parent. As a father myself, with more kids than you, I know that it's feasible to manage kids once you put the right effort and energy but you can't/shouldn't use C-19 as an excuse IMO.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You seem a charming type of poster. Compassionate I imagine

You seem like the type of guy that sherry picks what posts to reply to...you coward away when you are stuck.

JoeExotic81 wrote: »

Just had to quote this in case someone had a moment of brain activity and deleted the post. In a sea of posts that are insensitive, head in the sand, completely unaware of actual people's realities, it took some effort to be the worst. But bravo alwald, bravo.

Bravo for your replies an no I won't delete my post and I stand by what I said.

retro:electro

alwald wrote: »

Sigh!!
You are unable to manage you own child and yet you blame that on other people and/or the virus...you should look at your own parenting skills instead.

Fcukin hell what a rotten thing to say

FintanMcluskey

alwald wrote: »

Sufferer of their own parental skills you mean!



I never said you are a bad parent. As a father myself, with more kids than you, I know that it's feasible to manage kids once you put the right effort and energy but you can't/shouldn't use C-19 as an excuse IMO.



You seem like the type of guy that sherry picks what posts to reply to...you coward away when you are stuck.



Bravo for your replies an no I won't delete my post and I stand by what I said.

I'm afraid its too late to use the phrase quit while you are ahead

SAMTALK

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Youre posting here in complete ignorance to the current occurances or lack of in the Dail. Every other European parliament has had debates over this. Tony is holding us to ransom

Complete ignorance just because I don't agree with you

You,ll knocking everything yet you,re plan is follow the leader.

Complaining about empty beds and yet you don't seem to realise we just don't have the workforce. Would you prefer Donal Trump ?

JoeA3

Speakerboxx wrote: »

They are risks when there are various people working in close promixy. Can you stay 2m apart in a construction site for long periods of time? Hard to do but sure what is 2 meters?

Yes, I accept there are risks of course, but you wouldn't open your bedroom door in the morning if you took that to the absolute literal sense. Every time you step outside the door, there's risks!

How is the risk going to be any less in 2 weeks time when the site workers are officially allowed back anyway? The health authorities obviously believe that construction is the least risky sector, hence they are first back.

storker

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Its all about saving lives Timmy.
Me thinks though its more about free money for months on end

For who, exactly?

FintanMcluskey

phobia2011 wrote: »

Not really about snitching joe, it’s all well and good, god forbid, you get the virus, touching **** on site, unknown for 2 weeks, then spread it site wide. The fact it has no signs for 2 weeks is the problem, kill off parents and grandparents or even ill kids. But at least you weren’t sitting on your arse. The government have said they will pay you 50-60% of you wages to stay at home, unprecedented. But crack on, sure we’ll be kept!!

You need to calm down and have some tea.
This not a death sentence. In fact if you are over 65 risks are minimal

FintanMcluskey

JoeA3 wrote: »

Yes, I accept there are risks of course, but you wouldn't open your bedroom door in the morning if you took that to the absolute literal sense. Every time you step outside the door, there's risks!

How is the risk going to be any less in 2 weeks time when the site workers are officially allowed back anyway? The health authorities obviously believe that construction is the least risky sector, hence they are first back.

Ah in fairness in 2 weeks Leo will have misplaced his scrap of paper and mite let us visit our family

road_high

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Lives over economy were the pleas Joe!!!

There’s a massive price tag attached. That’s been completely brushed over