Relaxation of restrictions Part II

JRant

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Well Ill give you my plan and that's follow any European country immediately. Pick any European country and follow their lead not wait and see.

Here's my stab at it. 3 phases, 3 weeks apart, starting May 5th
1: schools, creches, small shops, cafes, construction, public service
2: larger shops, shopping centres, cinema, theatres, restaurant & pubs (with a focus on outdoor spaces)
3: everything else

Bring it back a phase if we see a spike in figures but early data from other countries suggests proper hand hygiene and social distancing measures should keep it well below manageable levels.

Snugglebunnies

alwald wrote: »

Sufferer of their own parental skills you mean!



I never said you are a bad parent. As a father myself, with more kids than you, I know that it's feasible to manage kids once you put the right effort and energy but you can't/shouldn't use C-19 as an excuse IMO.



You seem like the type of guy that sherry picks what posts to reply to...you coward away when you are stuck.



Bravo for your replies an no I won't delete my post and I stand by what I said.

My situation is bad, I didn't blame covid 19 but it is a terrible time for a lot of people. I'm glad you're coping so we'll, I hope you never suffer like I and others do.

FintanMcluskey

JRant wrote: »

Here's my stab at it. 3 phases, 3 weeks apart, starting May 5th
1: schools, creches, small shops, cafes, construction, public service
2: larger shops, shopping centres, cinema, theatres, restaurant & pubs (with a focus on outdoor spaces)
3: everything else

Bring it back a phase if we see a spike in figures but early data from other countries suggests proper hand hygiene and social distancing measures should keep it well below manageable levels.

I would like all avenues of employment to be opened next week.
After that consider lifting distance restrictions at some stage in the future. Money will fight covid, a broke country will haemorrhage life at a greater rate than a virus like Covid

SAMTALK

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

If YOU are still working have a small bit of consideration for the 1.2m that are not.

Where did I say I had no consideration for those not working ???

alwald

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

I'm also a single parent. I've a 9 year old who is stuck to me like glue at the moment and is being extremely uncooperative and unmanageable, I'm just not able for it. I can't get 5 minutes to myself to even breathe.

I live with my temperamental sister and because she refused to mind my child while I work (essential job), even those she's a public servant off work on full pay. I've had to take the last 5 weeks off. My parents normally child mind for me but obviously that's not an option right now.

I have to go back Monday because otherwise I'd lose my job but my sister hadn't made it easy for me.

Its literally only because I'm a lone parent that I'm still sitting here typing this, in my book there's no life for anyone for the foreseeable future.

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

My situation is bad, I didn't blame covid 19 but it is a terrible time for a lot of people. I'm glad you're coping so we'll, I hope you never suffer like I and others do.

No you didn't blame C-19 of course

storker

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Well Ill give you my plan and that's follow any European country immediately. Pick any European country and follow their lead not wait and see.

Ah, the monkey-see-monkey-do approach. I congratulate you on the depth and complexity of your analysis, sir. :rolleyes:

FintanMcluskey

SAMTALK wrote: »

Complaining about empty beds and yet you don't seem to realise we just don't have the workforce. Would you prefer Donal Trump ?

We have allowed heathcare workers to mind children at home fully paid.
We have empty hospitals and 500 consultants with no work.
What are you on about?

NIMAN

These loosening of restrictions will be strange for us border folk if the UK, and NI by that reckoning, follow a completely different timetable.

ChelseaRentBoy

So in essence then it will be August before you are allowed drive from say Dublin to Cork to see family?

LiquidZeb

alwald wrote: »

Sigh!!
You are unable to manage you own child and yet you blame that on other people and/or the virus...you should look at your own parenting skills instead.

What a disgusting, sniping thing to say. I hope you're not always that bitter.

alwald

storker wrote: »

Ah, the monkey-see-monkey-do approach. I congratulate you on the depth and complexity of your analysis, sir. :rolleyes:

We should congratulate all his posts and logic thus far...Fintan, please be a good lad and stop embarrassing yourself any further :pac:

Shelga

How long before you can give someone a hug who's not in your immediate household? Every single phase seems to say "...while maintaining social distancing".

gozunda

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

So we do have a formed government? The answer you give will indicate the credibility of your opinion

You claimed

FintanMcluskey wrote:

We dont have a government, most here wont realise that

We do have a government. A caretaker government. Your credability is in tatters long before that last nugget of eejitey tbh.

They are there whether you like it or not. There is a politics forum if you wish to endlessly berate and bitch about the current administration without having to use Covid for cover you know.

da_miser

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

So in essence then it will be August before you are allowed drive from say Dublin to Cork to see family?

Get the Bus or Train from Dublin to Cork

JRant

JoeA3 wrote: »

Yes, I accept there are risks of course, but you wouldn't open your bedroom door in the morning if you took that to the absolute literal sense. Every time you step outside the door, there's risks!

How is the risk going to be any less in 2 weeks time when the site workers are officially allowed back anyway? The health authorities obviously believe that construction is the least risky sector, hence they are first back.

Risk is a difficult thing for a lot of people to understand. If someone says you are twice as likely to die from this than, say, Flu for instance (not real figures for the pendants out there) People's natural reaction is to start panicking, when in reality the odds of either one killing you are very small overall.

It's like after 9/11, lots of American's stopped flying due to the precieved risk. However, twice as many people died from additional car accidents in the following 12 months than the actual number from 9/11 due to the significant increase in car journeys being taken.

NIMAN

Shelga wrote: »

How long before you can give someone a hug who's not in your immediate household? Every single phase seems to say "...while maintaining social distancing".

About 2026

FintanMcluskey

gozunda wrote: »

You claimed

We do have a government. A caretaker government. Your credability is in tatters long before that last nugget of eejitey tbh.

They are there whether you like it or not. There is a politics forum if you wish to endlessly berate and bitch about the current administration without having to use Covid for cover you know.

Come on now, 2 hours to come back with this waffle.

SAMTALK

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

We have allowed heathcare workers to mind children at home fully paid.
We have empty hospitals and 500 consultants with no work.
What are you on about?

The amount of healthcare workers that are either sick or in isolation.!

Now where did I say I had no consideration for people out of work?

You suggested that all work resumes Tuesday. It is not realistic, it has to be gradual

alwald

LiquidZeb wrote: »

What a disgusting, sniping thing to say. I hope you're not always that bitter.

What's disgusting is your lack of argumentation.

C__MC

da_miser wrote: »

Get the Bus or Train from Dublin to Cork

How can this be enforced re family visits until july?
You could say your nearest golf club or tennis club is a good few km away sure?

JRant

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I would like all avenues of employment to be opened next week.
After that consider lifting distance restrictions at some stage in the future. Money will fight covid, a broke country will haemorrhage life at a greater rate than a virus like Covid

Oh, I'd drop the 2km/5km/10km nonsense immediately. It serves no purpose at all IMO

FintanMcluskey

storker wrote: »

Ah, the monkey-see-monkey-do approach. I congratulate you on the depth and complexity of your analysis, sir. :rolleyes:

Yeah the plan is dont be left behind in the abyss.
1930s Ireland wont be fun for those with the aave lives rhetoric

phobia2011

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You need to calm down and have some tea.
This not a death sentence. In fact if you are over 65 risks are minimal

Never me I’m worried about Fintan, it’s my parents and children. But hey!!!

Who cares about the economy is all I keep hearing! If we even save 1 life it was all worth it.

I wonder how people will feel when the Covid payments stop? When the bank demand payments on mortgages again? When Landlords demand rent again? When the homeless crisis completely escalates and we’ve no funds to help? When people start getting evicted? When the housing crisis we are currently in gets much worse? When the austerity budgets start? When USC or some new equivalent is introduced? When thousands lose their homes? Lose their jobs? When thousands commit suicide?

It’s all worth it though if we save even 1 life now?

Will we be still “in it together” if you can’t pay your mortgage on a few more months?

Speakerboxx

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Blimey. I'll put it another way. Your post was 99.5% baloney and hyperbolic nonsense. We are not all going to die.

And you are adding to nothing that we already dont know.

road_high

Is the website incredibly slow and annoying for everyone else? I’d love to be able to debate this more but it’s driving me nuts!

Jinglejangle69

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Come on now, 2 hours to come back with this waffle.

How do SF manage to infiltrate every thread on boards with anti government propaganda??

Some operation.

Jinglejangle69

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Come on now, 2 hours to come back with this waffle.

How do SF manage to infiltrate every thread on boards with anti government propaganda??

Some operation.

HeidiHeidi

road_high wrote: »

Is the website incredibly slow and annoying for everyone else? I’d love to be able to debate this more but it’s driving me nuts!

Try an incognito browsing page. Worked for me and some others....

uli84

When will they restart medical services such as cancer or diabetic retinopathy screening?