Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Fann Linn · 01-05-2020 07:50PM

Anything on NCT centres?

Looney1 · 01-05-2020 07:52PM

speckle wrote: »

The dental association had a plan on their website what work the can do depending on phases. I am sur this will be update very soon to tie in with these new 5 phases. Ring your dentist for advice.

Looks like routine treatments won't be back until phase 4. 20th of July. Also the high speed turbine creates an aerosol which is a real issue and will be redundant. Cave man dentistry for the near future

01-05-2020 07:53PM

It is stunning how ignorant some people, many people, are about the laws, recommendations and guidelines of this 'lock down'.
People sitting at home thinking they're not allowed out the door.
Healthy young people cocooning for their own benefits! ! For ****s sake.
You can fairly well go anywhere if you want to go, the Gaurds aren't that scarey. It's up to your own judgement.

New Home · 01-05-2020 07:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It is stunning how ignorant some people, many people, are about the laws, recommendations and guidelines of this 'lock down'.
People sitting at home thinking they're not allowed out the door.
Healthy young people cocooning for their own benefits! ! For ****s sake.
You can fairly well go anywhere if you want to go, the Gaurds aren't that scarey. It's up to your own judgement.

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic, too.

Stheno · 01-05-2020 07:56PM

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Does the work from 18th May only apply to essential workers or is for all office workers?

Essential

Remote working where possible until the end
Phased opening of non essential offices phase 4 July 21

01-05-2020 08:03PM

New Home wrote: »

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic, too.

Healthy young people do not need to cocoon.

Ficheall · 01-05-2020 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Healthy young people do not need to cocoon.

You know it can affect young people too, right?

01-05-2020 08:07PM

Ficheall wrote: »

You know it can affect young people too, right?

You know what cocooning means, right?
Who are you relying on to supply you with food and services when you cocoon?
Magic immune people?????

Mantis Toboggan · 01-05-2020 08:08PM

Ficheall wrote: »

You know it can affect young people too, right?

Nobody under the age of 30 dead yet, they're as likely to die by being pooed on by a crow.

Young people stuck at home watching re runs on redtube seems like a good use of their time!

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-05-2020 08:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Healthy young people do not need to cocoon.

I know a woman in her late 30s with covid19 who has been very slow to recover. She was lucky she didn't die and her heart and lungs are still being supported by hospital equipment to help them to work. She was a healthy non-smoker.

Away With The Fairies · 01-05-2020 08:09PM

Leo's speech was absolutely rubbish. Talking about maintaining social distancing, hand washing and respiratory hygiene...

Maintaining respiratory hygiene... Like sneeze/cough into your elbow and have the virus on the sleeve of your top??? Idiot with no mention of face masks or face coverings. Some people cough/sneeze so fast they might not even have time to bring their elbow to their faces. Surely having something cover your face makes sense.

owlbethere · 01-05-2020 08:09PM

https://dermnetnz.org/topics/covid-19/

Rash can be a symptom

Fann Linn · 01-05-2020 08:10PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Leo's speech was absolutely rubbish. Talking about maintaining social distancing, hand washing and respiratory hygiene...

Maintaining respiratory hygiene... Like sneeze/cough into your elbow and have the virus on the sleeve of your top??? Idiot with no mention of face masks or face coverings. Some people cough/sneeze so fast they might not even have time to bring their elbow to their faces. Surely having something cover your face makes sense.

But he did mention his fans by name. So all is not lost.

Balmed Out · 01-05-2020 08:11PM

Redo91 wrote: »

Very few at one time anyhow. My mom used to go swimming with a group but now only those that are within the 2km go and even then it’s on their own. You’d see the odd other person down there but everyone keeps their distance.

Cheers, I'm 3km from a beach and would love a surf. Rnli asking ppl to stay out of water though.

Fann Linn · 01-05-2020 08:11PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Leo's speech was absolutely rubbish. Talking about maintaining social distancing, hand washing and respiratory hygiene...

Maintaining respiratory hygiene... Like sneeze/cough into your elbow and have the virus on the sleeve of your top??? Idiot with no mention of face masks or face coverings. Some people cough/sneeze so fast they might not even have time to bring their elbow to their faces. Surely having something cover your face makes sense.

But he did mention his fans by name. So all is not lost.

bekker · 01-05-2020 08:11PM

Skimmed through it, too many aspirational generalisations. Hopefully consultations have commenced some time ago on specific measures for each sector. But no indication of what metrics are to be used to determine when to move forward or backup a stage.

Principles of Approach to reducing measures
........
Reducing measures critically dependent on health service’s ability to:
- find new cases by consistently testing and contact tracing, and utilise
robust information on disease, system capacity and performance,
- implement mechanisms to protect ‘at risk’ groups particularly, from
outbreaks.
...
Disease indicators
1. Trajectory in incidence of disease
2. Trajectory in number of cases and clusters in residential healthcare settings
3. Trajectory in number of deaths
4. Hospitalisation and ICU occupancy cf % appropriate to move forward a stage, % trigger to backup a stage
5. Programme to consistently sample, test and contact trace.
* and other criteria as may arise in the future.
...
Monitoring the Disease & reduction of measures
Essential Health data sources: epidemiological data & modelling; incidence of outbreaks in residential settings;
testing and contact tracing; cf test turnaround timelines, depth, width and speed of contact tracing
health service capacity & performance (incl. ICU beds,
hospital, access to essential products, PPE, masks) cf % appropriate to move forward a stage, % trigger to backup a stage
...
Non-health information sources: transportation data; data and information on mobility and congregation; other sources

source - Roadmap for Reopening Society & Business
[emphasis added]

bekker · 01-05-2020 08:11PM

Skimmed through it, too many aspirational generalisations. Hopefully consultations have commenced some time ago on specific measures for each sector. But no indication of what metrics are to be used to determine when to move forward or backup a stage.

Principles of Approach to reducing measures
........
Reducing measures critically dependent on health service’s ability to:
- find new cases by consistently testing and contact tracing, and utilise
robust information on disease, system capacity and performance,
- implement mechanisms to protect ‘at risk’ groups particularly, from
outbreaks.
...
Disease indicators
1. Trajectory in incidence of disease
2. Trajectory in number of cases and clusters in residential healthcare settings
3. Trajectory in number of deaths
4. Hospitalisation and ICU occupancy cf % appropriate to move forward a stage, % trigger to backup a stage
5. Programme to consistently sample, test and contact trace.
* and other criteria as may arise in the future.
...
Monitoring the Disease & reduction of measures
Essential Health data sources: epidemiological data & modelling; incidence of outbreaks in residential settings;
testing and contact tracing; cf test turnaround timelines, depth, width and speed of contact tracing
health service capacity & performance (incl. ICU beds,
hospital, access to essential products, PPE, masks) cf % appropriate to move forward a stage, % trigger to backup a stage
...
Non-health information sources: transportation data; data and information on mobility and congregation; other sources

source - Roadmap for Reopening Society & Business
[emphasis added]

Shn99 · 01-05-2020 08:14PM

Oh dear, Zara king off again...asking about numbers for larger weddings, pity there wasnt a better journalist to take her seat

owlbethere · 01-05-2020 08:15PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

But he did mention his fans by name. So all is not lost.

I liked Leo's speech this evening. He came across very well. He addressed so much in his speech and recognised people who are mourning alone which would be something so difficult.

I'm so grateful our leader is not an almighty bo11ocks recommending bleech or whatever other nonsense the American sh1tbag sprouts.

01-05-2020 08:16PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I know a woman in her late 30s with covid19 who has been very slow to recover. She was lucky she didn't die and her heart and lungs are still being supported by hospital equipment to help them to work. She was a healthy non-smoker.

If she has covid19 I don't think she falls into the bracket of healthy.

Wibbs · 01-05-2020 08:17PM

Shn99 wrote: »

pity there wasnt a better journalist

..in the country that would take these mediocre morons to task on a few points. RTE forget about it. They've got the poor box out for their state supported bloated edifice.

New Home · 01-05-2020 08:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If she has covid19 I don't think she falls into the bracket of healthy.

I think what the op meant was that she was healthy prior to that.

Wibbs · 01-05-2020 08:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If she has covid19 I don't think she falls into the bracket of healthy.

Are you being purposely silly in what passes for your arguments?

Gynoid · 01-05-2020 08:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If she has covid19 I don't think she falls into the bracket of healthy.

Ohhh kay....

Yup, words fail me, that's all I can say.

GeorgeBailey · 01-05-2020 08:21PM

Shn99 wrote: »

Oh dear, Zara king off again...asking about numbers for larger weddings, pity there wasnt a better journalist to take her seat

What's wrong with asking about weddings? It's relevant to a lot of people.

Gynoid · 01-05-2020 08:22PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Are you being purposely silly in what passes for your arguments?

Snap! I spent so long on a post wondering what the heck to express to that....you beat me to it.

Stheno · 01-05-2020 08:22PM

<snip>

Did you read it at all?

Last phase is August 10 when offices and bars reopen

Family gatherings are from phase 3 onwards

Where are you getting what you've posted?

And facemasks are on the way....
Says Tony

01-05-2020 08:26PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You know what cocooning means, right?
Who are you relying on to supply you with food and services when you cocoon?
Magic immune people?????

This website is ****ed and I can't wait 5 minutes to load up a page so just to add to this..

Healthy young people don't need to cocoon.

If you cocoon you are expecting other people to take risks you aren't willing to take to afford you the ability to cocoon. People to shop for you and deliver your food, supermarket workers, drivers, postal workers.
But sure film yourself giving them a clap at 8pm. While you sit inside safe and cocooned.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-05-2020 08:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If she has covid19 I don't think she falls into the bracket of healthy.

FFS. She was not immunocompromised or elderly is the point. Covid19 made her seriously ill despite not being in a vulnerable group. She was one of the people who is in the group you think don't need to cocoon.

Can't believe I had to just type that. :eek: Christ on a bike.

bennyl10 · 01-05-2020 08:28PM

Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »

So 20km limit until the 20th of July. Yeah **** that.

**** you.
Follow the restrictions, don’t be dick.

It’s for all of our benefit

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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