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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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  • #5642
    Jan Blomqvist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7 ✭Jan Blomqvist


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Side note.. is Boards still crawling for anyone else tonight?

    On and off, seems fine now. Wasn't great earlier.


  • #5643
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    Ellie1988 wrote: »
    Sorry if already asked...is there a time for the 'announcement'? Or are they just gonna slip it into the news and hope we dont notice...

    Yes. The time of the announcement will be on at an “appropriate time” tomorrow.


  • #5644
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,858 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    smelly sock wrote: »
    He's a nutcase. Enjoying the celebrity he now has.

    Yes like he said Coppers was finished forever. Like wtf. That is most likely not going to be the case


  • #5645
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    But my employer is deemed "essential" so I may get them to amend the cover letter so I can travel from here to my home (which is luckily on the way to the office) depending on what's announced in the coming days

    Have 2 letters, one for each location.

    Its time to box clever when dealing with these morons.


  • #5646
    Dumdum McCarthy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Dumdum McCarthy


    Seems to be no easing of restrictions in my place of work. Before any announcements are made we are opening 5
    Half days a week from tomorrow on..we were one of the first goverment establishments told to close way back when...


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  • #5647
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    3 Million people in Ireland under the age of 45..

    14 U/45's have passed from Covid.

    More of that age group die through road accidents...


    Keeping millions of relatively young people locked up, close to 1 million on state assistance...

    These are the people who generate the taxation to pay for the healthcare system..


    Blanket lockdown still exists with no sign of release...

    Medical doctors running the country...

    A Government made up of unelected T.D's, Ministers still holding office who have lost their seats....


    Situation looking very severe in Ireland...


  • #5648
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes like he said Coppers was finished forever. Like wtf. That is most likely not going to be the case

    Now he says it has little effect on under 40's, what is the point of closing coppers if the age profile there is younger.


  • #5649
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    road_high wrote: »
    Typical Gardai- absolutely useless at anything bar hand wringing.

    Can you make up something depending on your job? Ie have to collect something essential etc? I’d have gone ages ago

    The main concern I have isn't getting there (after all, if I'm stopped they'll send me home, right?), it's getting back.

    The reason I'm here at all is to help vulnerable family and if I go and can't get back that's a problem. But with the distance involved, likelyhood of many checkpoints on the way, and the "it depends who you get" attitudes, it's a big worry.

    But yea. I can probably get the letter amended with my current address and say I have to go to the office to collect a replacement laptop for WFH (sorta true anyway)


  • #5650
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    -The 1st point is written proof of lack of credibility. The link is total cases as in 20k so that is not real time cases. Real time as in active cases.

    -No its primarily old people and those near the end of life.

    -What evidence exists to show the effectiveness of restrictions? Harris today once again claimed that 3500 people had been saved here and again referenced completely flawed models

    2K is clearly the total who have been diagnosed as having Covid-19 todate. You bizarrely claimed that the hospital figures were not 'real time'. No one mentioned 'real time. But the fact the link below and it shows that the hospital figures are measured up to midnight on the day detailed

    The age breakdown from tte same link clearly shows that Covid-19 affects the both young and old. I detailed this in the post you replied to in case you missed it . It's there in black and white. Deny it if you like. It doesnt change the facts.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/6185ef-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-thursday-30/#hospital-statistics

    I see you also refuse to believe that restrictions in China and Italy didnt help reduce the rate of infection in those countries? Really?

    You do know that the pandemic is global? And it's not just Harris yeah?

    Reckon best leave off with the party political bashing. Theres enough ****e to deal without that type of bs. The amount of it on this thread is more like an Ard Deis special tbh.


  • #5651
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    3 Million people in Ireland under the age of 45..

    14 U/45's have passed from Covid.

    More of that age group die through road accidents...


    Keeping millions of relatively young people locked up, close to 1 million on state assistance...


    Blanket lockdown still exists with no sign of release...

    Medical doctors running the country...

    A Government made up of unelected T.D's, Ministers still holding office who have lost their seats....


    Situation looking very severe in Ireland...

    Dan O'Brien makes a bit of sense.


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  • #5652
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    gozunda wrote: »
    2K is clearly the total who have been diagnosed as having Covid-19 todate. You bizarrely claimed that the hospital figures were not 'real time'. No one mentioned 'real time. But the fact the link below and it shows that the hospital figures are measured at midnight on the day detailed

    The age breakdown from tte same link clearly shows that Covid-19 affects the both young and old. I I detailed this in the post you replied to in case you missed it . It's there in black and white. Deny it if you like. It doesnt change the facts.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/6185ef-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-thursday-30/#hospital-statistics

    I see you also refuse to believe that restrictions in China and Italy didnt help reduce the rate of infection in those countries? Really?

    You do know that the pandemic is global? And it's not just Harris yeah?

    Reckon best leave off with the party political bashing. Theres enough ****e to deal without that type of bs. The amount of it on this thread is more like an Ard Deis special tbh.

    Please learn what those stats you are reading mean. Please. You have again discredited your ability to argue with what you are saying


  • #5653
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    easypazz wrote: »
    Dan O'Brien makes a bit of sense.

    Well as he says, if things keep going the way they are the economic crisis will make the 2008 crash look like a blip...

    10 years after the Spanish Flu there was the Great Depression, after that was World War 2....

    Irish Government money will run out in August to pay for the massive social welfare bill, and the Garda overtime budget...

    Heading for very grim times...


  • #5654
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Well as he says, if things keep going the way they are the economic crisis will make the 2008 crash look like a blip...

    10 years after the Spanish Flu there was the Great Depression, after that was World War 2....

    Irish Government money will run out in August to pay for the massive social welfare bill, and the Garda overtime budget...

    Heading for very grim times...

    Under 40s should be gotten back to work from next tusday. This covid poses **** all danger to them.


  • #5655
    Jan Blomqvist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7 ✭Jan Blomqvist


    Watching the premier of the Alberta province in Canada outline their plan to ease restrictions (which aren't as bad as ours).

    It's so refreshing to watch a public official deliver a clear and comprehensive plan.


  • #5656
    castletownman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Are people really surprised at the government's ineptitude?

    Do we not remember the cervical cancer scandal? Or the new children's hospital over-spend? Or the annual overcrowded hospital wards during flu season? Or the waiting lists that see many people die before they get the treatment they need? The buses up north for the cataract surgeries?

    It's all bluster and self-aggrandizing. Of course they have done less testing than they promised. Of course they are vague on when the restrictions could potentially be eased (for now).

    They couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery with Oliver Reed and George Best.


  • #5657
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Under 40s should be gotten back to work from next tusday. This covid poses **** all danger to them.

    Even under 50, so cocoon over 66, retired anyway, 50-65 moderate restrictions, under 50 as you were.


    See how that goes rather than this BS.


  • #5658
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    castletownman wrote: »
    Are people really surprised at the government's ineptitude?

    Do we not remember the cervical cancer scandal? Or the new children's hospital over-spend? Or the annual overcrowded hospital wards during flu season? Or the waiting lists that see many people die before they get the treatment they need? The buses up north for the cataract surgeries?

    It's all bluster and self-aggrandizing. Of course they have done less testing than they promised. Of course they are vague on when the restrictions could potentially be eased (for now).

    They couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery with Oliver Reed and George Best.

    Ya but they didnt dictate control of a nanny state during those scandals and some had to answer questions at the time at the very least. This is out of all control


  • #5659
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Under 40s should be gotten back to work from next tusday. This covid poses **** all danger to them.

    Rightly it should be under 50’s. Plenty of healthy 40-50 year olds including covid aware business owners (myself included) that are ready to get out of the traps and start earning again. Being broke and having a hungry family is a great motivator


  • #5660
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    3 Million people in Ireland under the age of 45..

    14 U/45's have passed from Covid.

    More of that age group die through road accidents...


    Keeping millions of relatively young people locked up, close to 1 million on state assistance...

    These are the people who generate the taxation to pay for the healthcare system..


    Blanket lockdown still exists with no sign of release...

    Medical doctors running the country...

    A Government made up of unelected T.D's, Ministers still holding office who have lost their seats....


    Situation looking very severe in Ireland...

    Where did you get the figure of 14 dead under 45?
    Scandalous staying in lockdown if that’s true.


  • #5661
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Where did you get the figure of 14 dead under 45?
    Scandalous staying in lockdown if that’s true.

    Dan o brien mentioned it.


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  • #5662
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Rightly it should be under 50’s. Plenty of healthy 40-50 year olds including covid aware business owners (myself included) that are ready to get out of the traps and start earning again. Being broke and having a hungry family is a great motivator

    I believe people like you will be ok as you realise whats ahead, you have time to adapt.
    Those who are saying lives over economy are going to get an eye opener sooner than they think, when they realise how cruel the world can be when stripped of all the supports they rely on


  • #5663
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,173 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    JayRoc wrote: »
    Yes. Exactly my point.

    I don't know why people keep bringing up 2km in relation to anything other than their daily exercise. It's infuriating

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1255957627110031371?s=09


  • #5664
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Under 40s should be gotten back to work from next tusday. This covid poses **** all danger to them.

    Lots of places are bringing their staff back at the moment. I've been informed I'm back to work next week (public-facing role). I'm well under 40, but immunocompromised, so the company have questioned my feelings on a return to work (I'm happy to go back, I need to get out of the house), are providing PPE and additional PPE just for me because of my health condition, and are supporting me in any way possible - which included giving me the option of continuing to stay at home on full pay.

    Lots and lots of places are going to slowly start reopening, the likes of companies where working from home isn't viable.


  • #5665
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Stark wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1255957627110031371?s=09

    is this for real?


  • #5666
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    I believe people like you will be ok as you realise whats ahead, you have time to adapt.
    Those who are saying lives over economy are going to get an eye opener sooner than they think, when they realise how cruel the world can be when stripped of all the supports they rely on

    I’m only hoping that people who adapt appropriately and thrive are not left seriously fcuked over with extraordinarily high levels of additional taxes to cover these layabouts. I shiver in anger at someone taking €350 a week to sit on their fat behinds slagging off people who want to open up Ireland and regain our countries positive economic position. Bunch of self entitled flea bags. Rant over


  • #5667
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,858 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    I believe people like you will be ok as you realise whats ahead, you have time to adapt.
    Those who are saying lives over economy are going to get an eye opener sooner than they think, when they realise how cruel the world can be when stripped of all the supports they rely on

    Does anyone with any sensible conviction really believe after the fcuk up they’ve made so far that they’ve made any reasonable calculation on funding and what state supports are needed going forward? I’d wager it’s vastly higher than they thought. It reminds of Brian Lenihan telling us we were fully funded as the IMF were about to take over the national finances. I expect the narrative to move majorly onto the economy in the next week (outside of the RTE group think circuit of course)


  • #5668
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,173 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    is this for real?

    Afraid so. If only they were as enthusiastic about catching criminals.


  • #5669
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,027 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Lots of places are bringing their staff back at the moment. I've been informed I'm back to work next week (public-facing role). I'm well under 40, but immunocompromised, so the company have questioned my feelings on a return to work (I'm happy to go back, I need to get out of the house), are providing PPE and additional PPE just for me because of my health condition, and are supporting me in any way possible - which included giving me the option of continuing to stay at home on full pay.

    Lots and lots of places are going to slowly start reopening, the likes of companies where working from home isn't viable.

    Stay at home on full pay, don't play chicken with an invisible enemy when your compromised.
    I know a lot are planning to open next week it's not going to happen.


  • #5670
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Stark wrote: »
    Afraid so. If only they were as enthusiastic about catching criminals.

    Imagine such a gob****e to also post it on twitter thinking you're doing a great job.

    There is literally zero risk in someone driving to a parcel locker


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  • #5671
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Stark wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1255957627110031371?s=09

    Yet they stayed in their vans and did nothing when people were breaking social distancing all over the gaff having a hooley and a piss up in Ballymun. Farce


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