What jobs get what salary?

ELM327 · 29-04-2020 10:37am

That was a good career move.

onrail · 29-04-2020 10:39am

ELM327 wrote: »

That was a good career move.

Well done. Massive regret of mine not to career-change into accountancy a few years back

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 10:41am

Yeh the Big 4 really are soul destroying, I ended up leaving without any job line up.
Very lucky to have landed where I did.

Never too late to move, I used to work as a postman believe it or not.

Eric Cartman · 29-04-2020 10:44am

unhappys10 wrote: »

Yeh the Big 4 really are soul destroying, I ended up leaving without any job line up.
Very lucky to have landed where I did.

Its the same with google for software dev, the big legal firms etc... they're jobs that you take to get the training and put on the CV but either you get a mentor high up and have them drag you up the ranks or you bail out into something else after 2 years.

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 10:48am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Its the same with google for software dev, the big legal firms etc... they're jobs that you take to get the training and put on the CV but either you get a mentor high up and have them drag you up the ranks or you bail out into something else after 2 years.

Yeh that's exactly what happens, people not familiar with these types of jobs wouldn't believe the number of people who jump ship.
I'm my group alone 5 of us left within months of each other.

Cyrus · 29-04-2020 10:51am

unhappys10 wrote: »

Yeh the Big 4 really are soul destroying, I ended up leaving without any job line up.
Very lucky to have landed where I did.

Never too late to move, I used to work as a postman believe it or not.

i dont think aircraft leasing is the place to be any more unfortunately

never understand people not finishing a big 4 training contract, it may not be for everyone but finishing it is worth it as its invaluable on your cv.

Assetbacked · 29-04-2020 10:52am

Big law firm jobs in Dublin for qualified solicitors start at around €60k+ (bearing in mind that it takes at least 3 1/2 years post-university to qualify). There are rumours of some larger international firms paying a good bit more than that for newly qualified solicitors. This then increases around €10k per year for the first few years. It takes about 4/5 years to hit six figures. Bonuses are based on hours billed so could be significant lump sums on top of basic salary. The drawback besides the long road of training to get there is the lack of social lives those in the big firms have, outside of partying. Wouldn't say it is uncommon to have poor a family life, health and/or relationship issues.

ELM327 · 29-04-2020 10:52am

Generally you should move jobs every 18-24 months. If you can't move up, or to a related parallel you need to move out
Keeps the salary ticking up as your "worth" is constantly evaluated against the market.
I'm in the same company for over 9 years now, but have followed the above mantra.

Eric Cartman · 29-04-2020 10:54am

Assetbacked wrote: »

Big law firm jobs in Dublin for qualified solicitors start at around €60k+ (bearing in mind that it takes at least 3 1/2 years post-university to qualify). There are rumours of some larger international firms paying a good bit more than that for newly qualified solicitors. This then increases around €10k per year for the first few years. It takes about 4/5 years to hit six figures. Bonuses are based on hours billed so could be significant lump sums on top of basic salary. The drawback besides the long road of training to get there is the lack of social lives those in the big firms have, outside of partying. Wouldn't say it is uncommon to have poor a family life, health and/or relationship issues.

The legal profession has seen some salary erosion in the last few years. Entrants in the last few years coming in at 40 and not seeing 100k till they're 8-10 years in.

3DataModem · 29-04-2020 10:55am

Geuze wrote: »

Wages are always quoted gross.

In some countries they are not. E.g. in Bulgaria you always quote your monthly net (even job offers / contracts etc are based on monthly net, it works because their tax system supports it).

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 10:57am

Cyrus wrote: »

i dont think aircraft leasing is the place to be any more unfortunately

never understand people not finishing a big 4 training contract, it may not be for everyone but finishing it is worth it as its invaluable on your cv.

We're busier than ever in the fin dept.

It's still on my CV, I don't think I did too badly for leaving early.

Cyrus · 29-04-2020 11:03am

smurfjed wrote: »

Airline Captain outside Ireland, and I have a copy of his payslip to prove it.

middle east im guessing?

Cyrus · 29-04-2020 11:05am

unhappys10 wrote: »

We're busier than ever in the fin dept.

It's still on my CV, I don't think I did too badly for leaving early.

im sure you are, the busiest time for finance tends to be when a business is in trouble.

i hope you are fine but aircraft leasing is in trouble generally (but maybe not specifically in your case)

you will always have to explain why you left, for the sake of a few months i wouldnt have advised it, but just my opinion.

Heres Johnny · 29-04-2020 11:08am

smurfjed wrote: »

Airline Captain outside Ireland, and I have a copy of his payslip to prove it.

Why do you have a copy of a colleagues payslip?

Cyrus · 29-04-2020 11:10am

smurfjed wrote: »

Colleague of mine got his monthly salary check yesterday, €44,000 which included some allowances.

is this his std monthly or includes annual bonus, seems way out of the market.

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 11:20am

Cyrus wrote: »

im sure you are, the busiest time for finance tends to be when a business is in trouble.

i hope you are fine but aircraft leasing is in trouble generally (but maybe not specifically in your case)

you will always have to explain why you left, for the sake of a few months i wouldnt have advised it, but just my opinion.

My company will be fine for reasons I won't go into as it would identify us.
I told the truth when I interviewed for my current job, I wasn't happy where I was.
18 months is a lot of time when you detest where you work, nothing would have made me stay any longer and I had 3 job offers within 3 weeks of leaving.
I think most people in the sector would know the story with the Big 4 and why someone may leave early.

Cyrus · 29-04-2020 11:24am

unhappys10 wrote: »

My company will be fine for reasons I won't go into as it would identify us.
I told the truth when I interviewed for my current job, I wasn't happy where I was.
18 months is a lot of time when you detest where you work, nothing would have made me stay any longer and I had 3 job offers within 3 weeks of leaving.
I think most people in the sector would know the story with the Big 4 and why someone may leave early.

im glad your company will be fine, genuinely.

i disagree with your second point having gone through it myself and being in a position where i am interviewing these people now, but maybe its just me.

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 11:28am

Cyrus wrote: »

im glad your company will be fine, genuinely.

i disagree with your second point having gone through it myself and being in a position where i am interviewing these people now, but maybe its just me.

Thanks.
Anyone I know who left had jobs in under a month, most had more than one option. I haven't heard of anyone who was stuck.
Funnily enough, they all went on to better paid jobs, not hard though I suppose considering trainee wages.

29-04-2020 11:30am

Aircraft leasing is a good niche role to be in, but hard to transfer to a similar level in a different industry.

I imagine with so many planes lying about, there's not going to be much leasing going on, and possibly defaults. That's the problem with a niche industry, it's susceptible.

Or... I could be totally misjudging it

smurfjed · 29-04-2020 11:33am

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Why do you have a copy of a colleagues payslip?

He sent it to me as I didn’t believe him.

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 11:37am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Aircraft leasing is a good niche role to be in, but hard to transfer to a similar level in a different industry.

I imagine with so many planes lying about, there's not going to be much leasing going on, and possibly defaults. That's the problem with a niche industry, it's susceptible.

Or... I could be totally misjudging it

I don't see why anyone would transfer to a different industry, the money is great and I have skills that would easily transfer to different industries even if I wanted to.

It is a massive industry, sure times are tough now but its not forever.

Planes aren't going away so the industry will always be required.

ChikiChiki · 29-04-2020 11:44am

unhappys10 wrote: »

My company will be fine for reasons I won't go into as it would identify us.
I told the truth when I interviewed for my current job, I wasn't happy where I was.
18 months is a lot of time when you detest where you work, nothing would have made me stay any longer and I had 3 job offers within 3 weeks of leaving.
I think most people in the sector would know the story with the Big 4 and why someone may leave early.

Worked in a Big4 Management Consulting role. Colleagues who had been there 2-3 years still regularly at the office up to 11pm at night. Dinners delivered etc.

Needless to say I bolted on my own accord after 4 months. I've enough experience so didn't need that ****e.

smurfjed · 29-04-2020 11:45am

Cyrus wrote: »

is this his std monthly or includes annual bonus, seems way out of the market.

As i initially posted, it included some of the annual allowances, but we have more senior guys that would get that per month, we belong in a very niche market.

29-04-2020 11:45am

Approximately 24,000 euro from locumming and overtime since 01/03/20. Not including my standard HSE wages

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 11:49am

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Worked in a Big4 Management Consulting role. Colleagues who had been there 2-3 years still regularly at the office up to 11pm at night. Dinners delivered etc.

Needless to say I bolted on my own accord after 4 months. I've enough experience so didn't need that ****e.

Yeh nothing would pay me to do that, I value my family, sanity and free time far to much.

unhappys10 · 29-04-2020 11:50am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Approximately 24,000 euro from locumming and overtime since 01/03/20. Not including my standard HSE wages

I think we have a winner!!

Cyrus · 29-04-2020 12:01pm

smurfjed wrote: »

As i initially posted, it included some of the annual allowances, but we have more senior guys that would get that per month, we belong in a very niche market.

Must be !

TheAnalyst_ · 29-04-2020 12:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Approximately 24,000 euro from locumming and overtime since 01/03/20. Not including my standard HSE wages

Fair play.

hots · 29-04-2020 12:31pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Worked in a Big4 Management Consulting role. Colleagues who had been there 2-3 years still regularly at the office up to 11pm at night. Dinners delivered etc.

Needless to say I bolted on my own accord after 4 months. I've enough experience so didn't need that ****e.

It's great for grads imo, good experience, toughens you up and can give you good skills to move on with. Good name on the CV too. But it can be a brutal enough place and can attract ****ty enough personalities to it as an industry. It takes a certain type of person to stick in it long term. I did 5+ years and that was plenty.

conor05 · 29-04-2020 1:01pm

Chartered Town Planner with local authority in rural town. 55k.

Never really work past 5pm. Flexitime a great perk.

While not enormous money, very secure job in these testing time.

snoopboggybog · 29-04-2020 1:41pm

I see a lot of smaller IT companies now offering 25K to 35K and must be an expert in about 10 different areas. No Thanks

Queasy Tadpole · 29-04-2020 4:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Approximately 24,000 euro from locumming and overtime since 01/03/20. Not including my standard HSE wages

Sorry what? You have made €24,000 in just the last two months on top of your normal wage?

Are you a doctor? That's an outrageous amount of money. Holy ****.

Juran · 29-04-2020 4:46pm

I make approx €30,000 a month pre-tax, I take home over €20,000 a month after tax. Self employed consultant in the Pharma industry (regulatory and clinical affairs). I live 45% of the time in Ireland - I now work mainly in Germany and Switzerland, lower tax rates than Ireland, plus very flexible lifestyle. Science degree & Masters, 18 years experience in the Pharma industry. I started off a technician, €17,000 annual salary back then.

Eric Cartman · 29-04-2020 4:48pm

snoopboggybog wrote: »

I see a lot of smaller IT companies now offering 25K to 35K and must be an expert in about 10 different areas. No Thanks

the best thing you can get starting in IT at the moment is a driving licence. Loads of places struggle to get engineers who can drive. Ive seen it add 10k , a driving licence and even a vendor issued cert in networking and you'll get 40k all day long as a field engineer.

Queasy Tadpole · 29-04-2020 4:52pm

Juran wrote: »

I make approx €30,000 a month pre-tax, I take home over €20,000 a month after tax. Self employed consultant in the Pharma industry (regulatory and clinical affairs). I live 45% of the time in Ireland - I now work mainly in Germany and Switzerland, lower tax rates than Ireland, plus very flexible lifestyle. Science degree & Masters, 18 years experience in the Pharma industry. I started off a technician, €17,000 annual salary back then.

You make 1/4 million a year AFTER tax? This thread is making me want to top myself.

TheAnalyst_ · 29-04-2020 4:55pm

As has been said before, if you want to earn real money then you you need to look outside of Ireland and avoid high tax regimes.

Eric Cartman · 29-04-2020 4:56pm

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

You make 1/4 million a year AFTER tax? This thread is making me want to top myself.

do something numbers heavy for 15 years then consult for other companies on how to do it better... theres a lot of money in it. Workflow and compliance consulting in a lot of fields generates serious money.

jibber5000 · 29-04-2020 5:03pm

Approx 43k as a 2nd year doctor.

Overtime would bring it up to 55-60k.

krissovo · 29-04-2020 5:33pm

Juran wrote: »

I make approx €30,000 a month pre-tax, I take home over €20,000 a month after tax. Self employed consultant in the Pharma industry (regulatory and clinical affairs). I live 45% of the time in Ireland - I now work mainly in Germany and Switzerland, lower tax rates than Ireland, plus very flexible lifestyle. Science degree & Masters, 18 years experience in the Pharma industry. I started off a technician, €17,000 annual salary back then.

Must be Swiss tax rather than German:D

I did a 12 month contract consultancy for ABB in Zurich made a fortune but I could not hack apartment living with all the rules.

Donald Trump · 29-04-2020 5:48pm

smurfjed wrote: »

Airline Captain outside Ireland, and I have a copy of his payslip to prove it.

Was he doing those special deliveries into Weston? I'd have thought they'd have been closed with the corona

needhelpguy · 29-04-2020 5:55pm

Thanks to the pandemic I'm now down to a 4 day week. Thats a 20% reduction. We were told no bonuses this year and no pay increases (which I was expecting). So I'm already down over €15k gross, with that potentially getting to over €25k lost with a further reduction in hours. I was on about 60k gross.

There's no chance of a recovery in my place anytime soon and with the rest of the economy moving into recession I'm not sure what to do tbh. Pretty sickened.

Cobalt17 · 29-04-2020 5:58pm

I work as a software engineer. 85k plus perks and performance bonus. Good thing is that I work from home, so Covid didn’t really effect me.

Sky King · 30-04-2020 11:12am

Juran wrote: »

I make approx €30,000 a month pre-tax, I take home over €20,000 a month after tax. Self employed consultant in the Pharma industry (regulatory and clinical affairs). .

"Try it sometime"

30-04-2020 11:27am

Sky King wrote: »

"Try it sometime"

Showing your age there :P

Cyrus · 30-04-2020 11:30am

Sky King wrote: »

"Try it sometime"

i wanna tell ya :pac:

skooterblue2 · 30-04-2020 11:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

............ the Mahon Tribunal into planning corruption which cost the state about €200,000,000 to investigate.

Solicitors and Barristers need social welfare too you know!

skooterblue2 · 30-04-2020 11:41am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the best thing you can get starting in IT at the moment is a driving licence. Loads of places struggle to get engineers who can drive. Ive seen it add 10k , a driving licence and even a vendor issued cert in networking and you'll get 40k all day long as a field engineer.

That is a Higher Functioning Autism thing. It has nothing to do with laziness. They struggle to judge distance and time in a car. Its not uncommon, but sussh many of them are ashamed of it.

01-05-2020 11:50am

It varies hugely in most jobs. Take a retail assistant, it can range from minimium wage to double that in some outlets that require you to know a bit or have the ability to really engage with folk. And there's plenty retail roles with commission/bonus incentives also.

Mechanics, can be from not much more than the minimum wage to €50k/annum.

Accountants and engineers (actually qualified ones rather than folk claiming they are) can be paid from €40k/annum for folk with experience to multiples of that without going into management roles.

You can make decent money at almost anything if it works out well and conversely almost any job can pay fairly sh1te at the lower end of the scale.

Eric Cartman · 01-05-2020 3:22pm

skooterblue2 wrote: »

That is a Higher Functioning Autism thing. It has nothing to do with laziness. They struggle to judge distance and time in a car. Its not uncommon, but sussh many of them are ashamed of it.

Never said it was laziness, just its a massive trough in the market companies pay to fill. Decent network engineers with a driving licence are hard to find.

LawBoy2018 · 01-05-2020 3:33pm

Assetbacked wrote: »

Big law firm jobs in Dublin for qualified solicitors start at around €60k+ (bearing in mind that it takes at least 3 1/2 years post-university to qualify). There are rumours of some larger international firms paying a good bit more than that for newly qualified solicitors. This then increases around €10k per year for the first few years. It takes about 4/5 years to hit six figures. Bonuses are based on hours billed so could be significant lump sums on top of basic salary. The drawback besides the long road of training to get there is the lack of social lives those in the big firms have, outside of partying. Wouldn't say it is uncommon to have poor a family life, health and/or relationship issues.

I work in a top 5 firm and 70K + bonus + benefits seems to be the norm for NQ solicitors in firms of a similar tier in Dublin. The area you specialise in will also affect your earning potential obvioulsy.

What jobs get what salary?

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