Masks

Rubberchikken · 28-04-2020 08:57PM

The HSE have stated that a mask is no benefit to someone who isn't sick.
Today in my local chemists, a sign states that a her directive has been issued that pharmacy staff now wear masks.

Away With The Fairies · 28-04-2020 09:00PM

Yes: valved

A family portrait during the 1918 flu pandemic. Look at the pet cat.

https://calisphere.org/item/ark:/13030/kt309nd94c/

Purple Mountain · 28-04-2020 09:55PM

No: other

Does anyone have any links to where I could get cotton, washable masks?
I think we will be going down the mandatory mask route so I'd like to be prepared.

Maxpower15 · 28-04-2020 09:58PM

Yes: surgical

Masks work. I don't care what the HSE say.

Jim_Hodge · 28-04-2020 09:59PM

Yes: homemade

iamwhoiam wrote: »

There most certainly is what wrong with taking his mask down and it dangling under his chin

Absolutely fine in the photo. Outdoors and distanced. Gloves removed, mask lowered, hands sanitised, mask replaced. People just love having something to be outraged about - what a waste of energy!

Atlantic Dawn · 28-04-2020 10:00PM

Rubberchikken wrote: »

The HSE have stated that a mask is no benefit to someone who isn't sick.
Today in my local chemists, a sign states that a her directive has been issued that pharmacy staff now wear masks.

I think on public transport they will need to be mandatory when it returns to normal capacity.

UrbanFret · 28-04-2020 10:01PM

Yes: homemade

Rubberchikken wrote: »

The HSE have stated that a mask is no benefit to someone who isn't sick.
Today in my local chemists, a sign states that a her directive has been issued that pharmacy staff now wear masks.

Countrywide directive for pharmacy workers now.

UrbanFret · 28-04-2020 10:04PM

Yes: homemade

Rubberchikken wrote: »

The HSE have stated that a mask is no benefit to someone who isn't sick.
Today in my local chemists, a sign states that a her directive has been issued that pharmacy staff now wear masks.

This is the biggest load of nonsense ever. Of course a mask is of benefit , Have the considered it might stop you getting sick. It beggars belief.:mad:

dfx- · 28-04-2020 10:04PM

No: other

Boggles wrote: »

Scottish Government have just recommended wearing face masks on public transport and in shops.

On April 3rd their clinical director said

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Is it just me or is anyone starting to see a pattern here?

They've recommended 'face coverings' including scarves which is a long way from face masks and it's not compulsory. There's still no undisputed definitive evidence.

Encouraging that 50%+ of the poll are in the no category, but the most popular choice is wait until HSE says so. Which is what should be the case.

fryup · 28-04-2020 10:13PM

No: I don't care enough

wearing this type around my neck then pull it up when i go into a shop...don't know whether its affective

Seanergy · 28-04-2020 10:19PM

Yes: valved

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Meantime Leo Varadkar poses with his mask down at his chin while standing at a testing centre.

You couldn’t make it up

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/leo-varadkar-helps-with-coronavirus-testing-on-traveller-accommodation-site-39164399.html

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I can’t seem to paste the link
Go to the Independent online

Purple Mountain · 28-04-2020 10:26PM

No: other

Seanergy wrote: »

The other fella isn't wearing it correctly either!

Jim_Hodge · 28-04-2020 10:27PM

Yes: homemade

fryup wrote: »

wearing this type around my neck then pull it up when i go into a shop...don't know whether its affective

I've seen many wearing these and pulling them up and down without sensitising hands each time. Pointless.

Infini · 28-04-2020 10:31PM

Personally I'd just be staying as far away from people as I can the masks might help but depending on your work environment they may not be practicle in some cases. We also have to look at how quite a few can't even wear the damn thing's properly or use them right even. That being said if the majority of those actually travelling are wearing them it should be enough to blunt the spread.

fryup · 28-04-2020 10:32PM

No: I don't care enough

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I've seen many wearing these and pulling them up and down without sensitising hands each time. Pointless.

as long as you don't touch your nose & eyes, you should be fine

Jim_Hodge · 28-04-2020 10:44PM

Yes: homemade

fryup wrote: »

as long as you don't touch your nose & eyes, you should be fine

No, you need to avoid touching a mask by anything other than the straps or strings. You tough the infected surface and infect what you touch and you'll touch your face subconsciously at some point.

We need serious public information and education before people start using masks and think they're safe just because something/anything is over their mouths.

Wibbs · 28-04-2020 10:56PM

Yes: other

dfx- wrote: »

Encouraging that 50%+ of the poll are in the no category, but the most popular choice is wait until HSE says so. Which is what should be the case.

The HSE? At this stage I'm beginning to wonder are you actually for real? Or are so you wedded and comforted by what you see as an authority that you happily ignore anything that disputes it?

This is the same HSE that has been a bloated mess for decades, that the current minister said wasn't fit for purpose, that has been mediocre at best as far as advice goes to the general population, downright moronic and potentially deadly at worst, when one of their top "experts" claimed a month after asymptomatic spread was an issue noted by the WHO and information available to anyone with a working search engine as it was noted in both medical and mainstream media? The same HSE that didn't protect the care homes(not a shock,as that has been the case for years) that hasn't implemented quality contact tracing, that oversees a testing programme that has lurched from the meh to the lagging weeks behind in results for those they've actually tested, that hasn't pushed for basic border health checks that don't exist even now, that still has no plan for quarantine. That HSE?

Cool beans, you keep tugging that forelock to mediocrity. Whatever gets you through the night.

Wibbs · 28-04-2020 11:00PM

Yes: other

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

No, you need to avoid touching a mask by anything other than the straps or strings. You tough the infected surface and infect what you touch and you'll touch your face subconsciously at some point.

We need serious public information and education before people start using masks and think they're safe just because something/anything is over their mouths.

I agree J, however - and I realise this is the default position with masks for many - it's not so much about protecting yourself, it's much more about protecting others. If you're uniformed or thick, yep, you're right, improper use as you describe will certainly lead to more risk of infection for you, but if your airways are covered, dopey use or not, you will lower the risk of expelling infected droplets to others.

Seanergy · 28-04-2020 11:04PM

Yes: valved

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Is this for real?

Afraid so.

krissovo wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that, he is in scrubs and working.

It's poor practise on 3 fronts by Leo, he needs to do a refresher course on donning and doffing and supporting buddie system as he is a liability to himself and others.

Firstly he has doffed his mask casually, which is not correct procedure, it should be either on or off and securely in the wastebin.
He is chatting with another who is not safely wearing his mask, Leo should be flagging him on this, as we all should be offering the buddie system, which is basically Iv'e got your back, youve got mine.
He is promoting it's okay to have a wet tissue around your neck to press and country.

Rubberchikken wrote: »

The HSE have stated that a mask is no benefit to someone who isn't sick.
Today in my local chemists, a sign states that a her directive has been issued that pharmacy staff now wear masks.

That's come about more than likely becuase too many spanners who have tested positive are popping into the chemists! They should be at home isolating.

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Does anyone have any links to where I could get cotton, washable masks?
I think we will be going down the mandatory mask route so I'd like to be prepared.

Sorry, I don't but can't see it becoming mandatory for a spell, probably introduce it slowly first, aren't enough masks here for the vulnerable let alone front line fringes at the mo, germans and french bulk buying in the ten's of millions.

dfx- wrote: »

They've recommended 'face coverings' including scarves which is a long way from face masks and it's not compulsory. There's still no undisputed definitive evidence.

Encouraging that 50%+ of the poll are in the no category, but the most popular choice is wait until HSE says so. Which is what should be the case.

There's still no undisputed definitive evidence either way.
Encouraging for who?

fryup wrote: »

wearing this type around my neck then pull it up when i go into a shop...don't know whether its affective

FRYUP, take a crash course in how to use a mask, never touch it unless you have cleaned your hands, cause if your hands have been touching contaminated surfaces you could transfer virus to your mask and then you might be rightly fucoivd!!! get it? likewise learn how to take your mask off correctly, when your finished with it you have to treat it as if it has virus on the surface, you don't just wip it up and down as you go in and outa shops....it's either on fulltime or off till it's washed again.

drunkmonkey · 28-04-2020 11:11PM

No: other

Did anyone else watch prime time and get the 2 Virologists take on it, masks are one thing but the amount of people using gloves is off the scale. Your not to wear them why aren't people understanding this it's been repeated consistently across media.

railer201 · 28-04-2020 11:11PM

Yes: valved

dfx- wrote: »

They've recommended 'face coverings' including scarves which is a long way from face masks and it's not compulsory. There's still no undisputed definitive evidence.

Encouraging that 50%+ of the poll are in the no category, but the most popular choice is wait until HSE says so. Which is what should be the case.

Dr. Vladimir Zdimal, Czech Academy of Scientists, was on Prime Time tonight and stated that it was the use of face masks that flattened the curve in his country. It's hard to understand why people are sticking their fingers in their ears on this one.

What more evidence does the HSE want ?

Wibbs · 28-04-2020 11:14PM

Yes: other

railer201 wrote: »

Czech virologist on Prime Time tonight stated that it was the use of face masks that flattened the curve in his country. It's hard to understand why people are sticking their fingers in their ears on this one.

What more evidence does the HSE want ?

Given how supportive RTE are of the government line, I suspect this kinda thing might be another way of getting the mask thing into play now, so they do a turnabout with this "new" info.

fryup · 28-04-2020 11:22PM

No: I don't care enough

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Did anyone else watch prime time and get the 2 Virologists take on it, masks are one thing but the amount of people using gloves is off the scale. Your not to wear them why aren't people understanding this it's been repeated consistently across media.

disposable gloves??

drunkmonkey · 28-04-2020 11:26PM

No: other

fryup wrote: »

disposable gloves??

Yes

railer201 · 28-04-2020 11:28PM

Yes: valved

Wibbs wrote: »

Given how supportive RTE are of the government line, I suspect this kinda thing might be another way of getting the mask thing into play now, so they do a turnabout with this "new" info.

Indeed, I should watch more of 'Yes Minister' !

fryup · 28-04-2020 11:33PM

No: I don't care enough

fryup wrote: »

disposable gloves??

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yes

but most shops have them as you enter

Flavour Diaper · 28-04-2020 11:54PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Leather gloves from Prada, cashmere scarf by Paul Smith, I've carefully cut out the pockets of my Harris Tweed slacks to I can cup and fondle while I'm waiting in queues.

s7ryf3925pivug · 29-04-2020 01:13AM

Yes: other

By protecting yourself you are protecting others. By protecting others you are protecting yourself.

Xertz · 29-04-2020 01:17AM

Yes: other

I got a fabric one on amazon, which has a valve, but the filter is sitting behind the valve anyway so it doesn't actually release unfiltered air.

I got a bit dizzy while wearing it as it was actually restricting my air flow and had to take it off. Found breathing with it on was too laboured.

I'll have to get something else.

29-04-2020 01:59AM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I've seen many wearing these and pulling them up and down without sensitising hands each time. Pointless.

I think I need to unsubscribe from this thread.

If everyone is wearing masks, there is far less of the virus on stuff that people be touching. There is far less of it in the air. It doesn't matter if the mask is worn "wrong" or it's been reused five hundred times, it is better than nothing. We don't need some doing it perfectly, we need everyone doing it even if imperfectly.

I hope books in the future deal not only with the government's lies but also the West's attitude in general where it's all about protecting one's self and not others. It doesn't even make sense. Most of us see people we care about it.

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