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Gerry Ryan Documentary RTE1 9:30PM 26/4h

  • 23-04-2020 1:17pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭


    To mark the 10th anniversary of the death of one of the greatest Irish men of all time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,743 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Greatest Irish men of all time?

    Bit of a stretch there fella.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,248 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Could there be a more hypocritical program with a bunch of talking heads fawning over someone who died of drug abuse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Long_Wave wrote:
    To mark the 10th anniversary of the death of one of the greatest Irish men of all time.


    I'm a huge fan but I couldn't say one of the greatest Irish men ever. One of the greatest radio presenters or radio personality maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Naked Lepper


    pack of keyboard warriors with nasty comments incoming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,732 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Anybody else get the feeling that this thread will be far more entertaining than the show itself?




    *orders jumbo popcorn*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    6 comments in two days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭lukin


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Could there be a more hypocritical program with a bunch of talking heads fawning over someone who died of drug abuse?

    I think his use of cocaine is addressed in the program, whether it is criticised or not we will have to wait and see.


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep. The true litmus test of a program like this is whether or not Gerry gets any sort of solid criticism in such "documentary".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Yep. The true litmus test of a program like this is whether or not Gerry gets any sort of solid criticism in such "documentary".

    Given that Dave Fanning refers to him as "the funniest person ever on radio" I wouldn't be holding my breath on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    Dave fanning is in this documentary.......

    Thanks for the heads up ....

    The only thing more annoying than Dave Fanning is Eastenders ....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭lukin


    I don't want to turn this thread into a moralistic debate but I don't think we should castigate Gerry Ryan for being a cokehead as some people have described him. Obviously taking illegal substances is against the law (even just being in possession of them is) but I always took the view about drug use that it's a personal choice. Yes cocaine has destroyed so many many lives but if people want to take it, that's up to them, if they are adults they know full well what they are getting into.
    Encouraging others to use them or supplying them to others; well that's a different story altogether.
    Also you have to bear in mind that Gerry Ryan's wife and children are still alive and they have to take their feelings into account. It would be very upsetting for them to read or see their father described as a drug abuser.
    The documentary has to tread a fine line between not ignoring it but also not being judgmental. It will be interesting to see how they do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭omerin


    The doc has to thread a fine line and that's not to be sniffed at


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    Long_Wave wrote: »
    To mark the 10th anniversary of the death of one of the greatest Irish men of all time.

    The greatest Irish men of all time?

    An overweight cocaine addict.... up there with Geldof is he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭lukin


    omerin wrote: »
    The doc has to thread a fine line and that's not to be sniffed at
    :D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    lukin wrote: »
    I don't want to turn this thread into a moralistic debate but I don't think we should castigate Gerry Ryan for being a cokehead as some people have described him. Obviously taking illegal substances is against the law (even just being in possession of them is) but I always took the view about drug use that it's a personal choice. Yes cocaine has destroyed so many many lives but if people want to take it, that's up to them, if they are adults they know full well what they are getting into.
    Encouraging others to use them or supplying them to others; well that's a different story altogether.
    Also you have to bear in mind that Gerry Ryan's wife and children are still alive and they have to take their feelings into account. It would be very upsetting for them to read or see their father described as a drug abuser.
    The documentary has to tread a fine line between not ignoring it but also not being judgmental. It will be interesting to see how they do that.

    His child is stealing a living from rte and I anticipate it will not tread a fine line at all. They might say the minimum possible purely to avoid being accused of glossing over it but please dont get your hope's up of or rte making anything unbiased when it comes to rte staff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭brookers


    I think there is some confusion regarding gerry ryan doc. it is not about ryanair tonight and gerry ryan dj is during week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,248 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    lukin wrote: »
    I don't want to turn this thread into a moralistic debate but I don't think we should castigate Gerry Ryan for being a cokehead as some people have described him. Obviously taking illegal substances is against the law (even just being in possession of them is) but I always took the view about drug use that it's a personal choice. Yes cocaine has destroyed so many many lives but if people want to take it, that's up to them, if they are adults they know full well what they are getting into.
    Encouraging others to use them or supplying them to others; well that's a different story altogether.
    Also you have to bear in mind that Gerry Ryan's wife and children are still alive and they have to take their feelings into account. It would be very upsetting for them to read or see their father described as a drug abuser.
    The documentary has to tread a fine line between not ignoring it but also not being judgmental. It will be interesting to see how they do that.

    Certainly it's a personal choice, and so is being a moralistic hypocrite hosting shows on the impact of crime and drug abuse when you contribute to it.

    I've no issue with a show about him, he was always on in my house, but I hope the reason for his demise is not glossed over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    brookers wrote: »
    I think there is some confusion regarding gerry ryan doc. it is not about ryanair tonight and gerry ryan dj is during week?

    They said just now on rte one that it's the DJ episode tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,248 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is all his kids and ex wife on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,732 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    WARNING:


    NO LAMBS WERE HARMED DURING THE MAKING OF THIS DOCUMENTARY.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is all his kids and ex wife on this?

    Yeah apparently they got a bag of coke in his memory to celebrate the documentary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    10 years?
    Kinda seems longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    No doubt he gets an easy ride...

    Will they mention his involvement in the drugs industry that ravaged this country?

    I never rated him, always came across smutty and vulgar; but he did come across as a very generous soul. Good soul..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,732 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Joe Duffeh there of course, at the mere mention of death.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    walshb wrote: »
    No doubt he gets an easy ride...

    Will they mention his involvement in the drugs industry that ravaged this country?

    I never rated him, always came across smutty and vulgar; but he did come across as a very generous soul. Good soul..

    Well you're going a bit a far there, "his involvement in the drugs industry" he bought a few bags of coke it's not like it made any difference to the drugs industry whatsoever?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    lukin wrote: »
    Obviously taking illegal substances is against the law (even just being in possession of them is) but I always took the view about drug use that it's a personal choice. Yes cocaine has destroyed so many many lives but if people want to take it, that's up to them, if they are adults they know full well what they are getting into.

    Once the fact that he was extremely publicly critical of people who told illegal drugs is addressed then it will be a fair and balanced documentary.
    But what are the chances of that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,386 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Lots of stuff I didn't realise : just how middle class he was and his connection to the Haughey family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,994 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I remember the time he died RTE were in turmoil over how to cover it. To say they had a conflict of interest was an understatement. To get the real news you had to go to other channels.
    I was in RTE myself in a nondescript capacity for under a year (few years prior to Ryan's death). He clearly would not have been one of those to look after his health, he used to eat mountains of chips at lunch in the canteen.
    He liked to be seen and heard. His programme was no hold barred I suppose. But he used to come out with lines like - I don't take the bus because of rich bastard syndrome. Not to everyone's taste.
    It was not him I felt sorry for but his children, who now have to live with the stigma of what Gerry Ryan did and was - both good side and bad side.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Cagney. Cool tash


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Adam9213 wrote: »
    Well you're going a bit a far there, "his involvement in the drugs industry" he bought a few bags of coke it's not like it made any difference to the drugs industry whatsoever?

    Yeh, because those buying it have nothing to do with it..

    Same as receiving/buying stolen goods....; sure wasn’t me who robbed them, your honour!!

    And even more telling when it’s a man employed by the state’s broadcaster....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,732 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Lots of fine mullets on parade :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Lambo


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Why is the broadcasting fee being wasted on a doco about an ex RTE employee who has been dead for a decade?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,732 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    WARNING:


    NO LAMBS WERE HARMED DURING THE MAKING OF THIS DOCUMENTARY.


    :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Gavin Lamb Murphy.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’m sorry, but for me the programme is a complete non event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,754 ✭✭✭degsie


    The guy was a TV and radio presenter, there are first line responders out there right now that deserve more airplay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,052 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I see he played RTE for fools in the contract negotiations, not unlike some modern day presenters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,052 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Sounds a lot like exactly what D'Arcy followed with.


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bit of a shift there?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    Say what u like Gerry showed most of them how it’s done . Always liked Gerry told it as it was .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,732 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    That 'Secrets' looks far better than 'The Ray D'Arcy Show'! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Just watched Paths to freedom on youtube, he was good in that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Dave fanning is in this documentary.......

    Thanks for the heads up ....

    The only thing more annoying than Dave Fanning is Eastenders ....


    I have always being a fanning fan because of the "music"]
    I was never a Gerry fan, a bit like Gaybo i though.
    I see them as two opposites, is it loyality?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    Did anyone else notice that it wasn't unusual for him to have guests on his show talking about cocaine or other drugs. Now it would always be talking about drugs both taking and selling in a negative light. After his death it make sense, he obviously had a keen interest in the topic.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The only thing ill say for Gerry is that he wasnt some bland PC dullard off the shelf. Id prefer him to alot of todays idiots to be honest. Overall though he was well set for the gravy train long before he was ''discovered''. He was middle class with many many connections,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,732 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Joe Duffy just said the word 'orgasm'.


    tenor.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    A very sanitised version of events so far..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Are they going to even mention the drug addiction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,052 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Are they going to even mention the drug addiction?

    Maybe they want a repeat...
    An inquest showed that the cause of death was cardiac arrhythmia and that traces of cocaine found in Ryan's system were the "likely trigger" of Ryan's death. A considerable public controversy erupted when Ryan's long-term use of cocaine came to light. RTÉ eventually admitted to having given insufficient coverage of Ryan's cocaine habit in the aftermath of the inquest.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Ryan


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