Anyone willing to admit they're already starting to relax restrictions?

Del Griffith · 23-04-2020 1:29pm #1

I'm not consciously but I do find that I don't check the daily numbers or news anymore, it's no longer really at the forefront of my mind and I'm pretty lax about the 2km.

I don't act the bollox like organise a party or something but if I need to go do something, I will do it.

This can't go on months/indefinitely, I suspect (although they mightn't admit it) that people will tire of it and just start relaxing themselves bit by bit as this goes on.

yerwanthere123 · 23-04-2020 1:34pm

No, I'm still sticking to them for the most part, as I think the majority are. Only leaving the house to do food shopping and for exercise.

I will admit that I regularly go beyond the 2km for my exercise, but I live very rurally. Last Sunday I ran a six mile stretch without meeting a single person/car, something obviously not possible if I lived in a town or city.

Ich liebe Berlin · 23-04-2020 1:55pm

I'm sticking to it completely because I want this to be over as quickly as possible, but am well aware that a significant amount of people aren't bothering. I work on a supermarket checkout and several of the customers are beyond infuriating.

Yesterday I served a woman who had driven 26 miles to where I work because she was bored even though there are two large supermarkets in her home town. A huge amount of customers only buy a couple of items and say they are only in the store just to get out of the house. Most people are selfish a**holes.

emo72 · 23-04-2020 1:57pm

i think you need to bring the people with you. i dont think people will put up with this indefinitely. we need a roadmap out of this.

tobefrank321 · 23-04-2020 2:00pm

Not personally no and most people are doing their bit.

Oddly enough I know a few people aged in their 60s, 70s and 80s who really aren't taking this lockdown seriously and life hasn't changed all that much for them.

23-04-2020 2:00pm

Please don't get complacent. People are dying from this, including my own dad. If you want to protect your loved ones, stick to the rules. Otherwise your family could be next.

KaneToad · 23-04-2020 2:00pm

We've come this far, it would be foolish to ease up too soon. I've only been in a supermarket 4 times since this started. It's a pain in the a$$ but the alternative is worse.

Wibbs · 23-04-2020 2:06pm

Flying Fox wrote: »

Please don't get complacent. People are dying from this, including my own dad.

Ah christ FF, sorry to hear that.

Leilak · 23-04-2020 2:06pm

My bf died 12 days ago aged 60 because he needed a heart procedure and it was cancelled due to covid outbreak - im so annoyed when today I saw a huge queue outside The Range, some people are definitely relaxing their movements

Onesea · 23-04-2020 2:06pm

The newspeak is strong here.Of course people are relaxing restrictions.Have any of you seen the stats that were released from the states? infection rates were over 50 times maybe even 80 times what they expected.Does it matter tho,next they will have a social credit score linked to social distancing,can you imagine that.

ax530 · 23-04-2020 2:07pm

yes same as not listening to news about it as much, so many numbers and all quite big they not feeling as important. due to this not as fearful or anxious about virus day to day.
we are going to shops more, will go for milk or bread where as a few weeks ago we tried get everything in one go. Still just one member of household does all the shopping.
still keeping to within 2km for exercise, not driving or visiting so no unnecessary journeys.
have had a family member call to garden had cup tea possibly within the 2m at some moments during the visit. they came more than once this week as find it helps distract smaller children while concentrating on work/mettings for an undisrupted hour.
noticed an au pair out walking with children today I wasnt aware that option was still available.

Jim Root · 23-04-2020 2:13pm

Strongly considering asking our nanny to come back to the house to work.

ax530 · 23-04-2020 2:15pm

very sorry to hear that, such a difficult time for you.
I cant understand queue for a shop at the best of times. I would love to go to the beach but its over 2km so stay away. Miss sea walk usually have at least once a week
I am wondering at this stage are hospitals causing more issues by cancellations than the number of covid cases they resolving.

Some small children at home almost 'alone' as parents working are in higher danger of accidents. Due to a few near escapes in this house I got the family member to supervise them in garden to allow me some time to focus totally on work

Goose76 · 23-04-2020 2:19pm

From what I can see on Instagram etc, there seems to have been a huge increase in the number of cafes and restaurants re-opening for delivery the past 7-10 days or so. I love my coffee and takeaways but this is alarming to me, it's just encouraging more and more people to come out and about.

Jim Root · 23-04-2020 2:20pm

Goose76 wrote: »

From what I can see on Instagram etc, there seems to have been a huge increase in the number of cafes and restaurants re-opening for delivery the past 7-10 days or so. I love my coffee and takeaways but this is alarming to me, it's just encouraging more and more people to come out and about.

I noticed Supermacs are back open, did they need permission for that I wonder?

SusanC10 · 23-04-2020 2:23pm

We are pretty much sticking to the rules. I broke them once a few weeks ago by driving more than 2km to the nearest Bottle Bank which clearly wasn't an essential journey. Needed to get away from the house by myself.

Husband working from home, Kids at home. Road immediately outside not safe for walking especially with Kids. Have noticed cars/vans doing faster speeds.

Getting weekly deliveries of food and ordering other things we need online. Before all this, I used to shop twice a week on Mondays and Fridays in Tesco.

Husband goes for a walk or cycle early in the mornings maybe 5 days a week. Apart from my drive above, the Kids and I have not left our place since the day the schools closed March 12th.
We use my Husband's home gym equipment for exercise as well as Gardening and the Kids play outdoor games in our own garden

But can see a football pitch from our bedroom window and groups of Kids gathering.
Member of 2 different FB Groups of mostly women in the nearest town and going by posts on them, lots of unnecessary journeys happening.

Wildly Boaring · 23-04-2020 2:24pm

There's a massive relaxation ongoing.

I was just in centra for milk, bread and cheese.

Guy at the top with 3 kids buying them all slushies.
Followed by an elderly couple with machine coffees.
Fella at deli counter getting a chicken fillet roll in middle of it all.
An old dear skipped half the q. Realised her error so stopped to chat to the person she had skipped (from 2 foot). Then decided the q was too slow and wanted to leave. Stopped to tell me this, again from 2 foot.

When I got to till, fella at next till buying coke, scratch cards and smokes.

The kids are all back playing together on the green.

Several construction companies back this week on "essential" social housing. Several more back Monday. I'm prob back Monday for health and safety works.
Talk of action on children's hospital site too.

CIF are doing a covid induction. Website crashing continuously due to demand.

leahyl · 23-04-2020 2:27pm

Goose76 wrote: »

From what I can see on Instagram etc, there seems to have been a huge increase in the number of cafes and restaurants re-opening for delivery the past 7-10 days or so. I love my coffee and takeaways but this is alarming to me, it's just encouraging more and more people to come out and about.

Completely agree - why can't people forgo these things for a while longer - I mean people have no willpower at all. Do that many people eat out every day in normal circumstances??

quokula · 23-04-2020 2:29pm

Goose76 wrote: »

From what I can see on Instagram etc, there seems to have been a huge increase in the number of cafes and restaurants re-opening for delivery the past 7-10 days or so. I love my coffee and takeaways but this is alarming to me, it's just encouraging more and more people to come out and about.

Same in my area. Given that the actual takeaways never closed it's hard to criticise restaurants that have now converted to takeaways. I don't know if there were any specific changes that led to so many reopening in the last week, or if that was just how long it took them to get reconfigured (or for the money to run out and them to need to reopen)

Sammy2012 · 23-04-2020 2:32pm

Was out for my weekly shop this morning and there was many more people about. Lots of kids out with parents too. People browsing in one of the shops I was in touching everything as they went passed. I was annoyed! My kids havent left home in 6 weeks. I only do one shop a week anyway so that hasnt changed but I'd love to go to the beach or coffee shop with my family and the longer selfish picks carry on like this the longer itll be before we can go back to normal!

Goose76 · 23-04-2020 2:33pm

leahyl wrote: »

Completely agree - why can't people forgo these things for a while longer - I mean people have no willpower at all. Do that many people eat out every day in normal circumstances??

I feel for the small business owners who probably need to re-open soon for financial reasons, and I'd hate to see any business go under as a result of this - especially smaller, independent places.

But on the other hand, it's definitely a cause for concern that so many have decided to re-open. It's also strange to see that little is being done to prevent these places from re-opening. I haven't seen any statements from politicians or health officials etc about it, which is odd as there seems to have been a HUGE increase.

It's also funny to note, for all the people panicking on social media about the virus, very few seem to have the same level of concerns about their local chipper or coffee shop reopening:rolleyes:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 23-04-2020 2:34pm

Yes, I went to the shop yesterday and found myself getting sloppy. The restrictions are really hard. We're a social species and dancing around people feels really weird. And, like, I was already adhering to some of the restrictions pre-covid because of being immunocompromised. I can't imagine how hard it is for people who are not used to anything like that.

But I guess yesterday was a wake up call to cop myself on and be more careful.

facehugger99 · 23-04-2020 2:36pm

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

There's a massive relaxation ongoing.

I was just in centra for milk, bread and cheese.

Guy at the top with 3 kids buying them all slushies.
Followed by an elderly couple with machine coffees.
Fella at deli counter getting a chicken fillet roll in middle of it all.
An old dear skipped half the q. Realised her error so stopped to chat to the person she had skipped (from 2 foot). Then decided the q was too slow and wanted to leave. Stopped to tell me this, again from 2 foot.

When I got to till, fella at next till buying coke, scratch cards and smokes.

The kids are all back playing together on the green.

Several construction companies back this week on "essential" social housing. Several more back Monday. I'm prob back Monday for health and safety works.
Talk of action on children's hospital site too.

CIF are doing a covid induction. Website crashing continuously due to demand.

Great to see society starting to return to normal in fairness.

Juicyfruit · 23-04-2020 2:37pm

Still sticking to it here. Haven’t been out of the house since schools closed except for the weekly shop.
It’s actually infuriating to hear that some people think it’s ok to relax now that things are looking good numbers wise.
Do people not realise that the numbers are this way because of the restrictions and that in order for them to start easing, the numbers need to be better than they are now.
It’s the selfish minority who are going to prevent that from happening. Not to mention the whole putting themselves and others at risk.
The stupidity of some people is baffling.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 23-04-2020 2:39pm

Leilak wrote: »

My bf died 12 days ago aged 60 because he needed a heart procedure and it was cancelled due to covid outbreak - im so annoyed when today I saw a huge queue outside The Range, some people are definitely relaxing their movements

I am so sorry.

One thing about humans is if they've never experienced serious ill-health in their lives, they don't know what it's like. You can only really know what it's like when you've experienced it and that's why so many people are so blasé.

23-04-2020 2:41pm

I'll admit, for the previous few days I've been ignoring the 2 KM limit and have been going much further. For example, yesterday I went for a 10k cycle and then a 5K run.

I'm starting to get sick of all the restrictions and having to queue most times when I want to go shopping. I still believe we are blowing this all out of proportion and that once the crisis has subsided, the hard data will prove we overreacted and should have taken an approach like that of Sweden.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 23-04-2020 2:45pm

leahyl wrote: »

Completely agree - why can't people forgo these things for a while longer - I mean people have no willpower at all. Do that many people eat out every day in normal circumstances??

I'd imagine it's people who haven't had a takeaway in ages rather than eating out every day. We got a takeaway twice last week and that was the reason.

jrosen · 23-04-2020 2:49pm

The only thing we have broken is the 2km, I have cycled to the shops to get food to roll some exercise and essential shopping into one. So 10km there and back. I also walk 4/5 times per day, either with the dog, husband or cycle with the kids. But we are never more than 2km from the house.

Otherwise we have been all home since mid march.

But i can see on the streets more and more people are out. People have definitely slacked off.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 23-04-2020 2:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'll admit, for the previous few days I've been ignoring the 2 KM limit and have been going much further. For example, yesterday I went for a 10k cycle and then a 5K run.

I'm starting to get sick of all the restrictions and having to queue most times when I want to go shopping. I still believe we are blowing this all out of proportion and that once the crisis has subsided, the hard data will prove we overreacted and should have taken an approach like that of Sweden.

We don't know that NOW though and so erring on the side of caution is the only sensible thing to do. If it turns out it was less lethal than we thought, well, that will be hindsight. While we still have incomplete stats and incomplete knowledge of the virus, we have to be cautious. Anyone who says "See, I told you so!" if it turns out to less serious will expose themselves as the spoofers they are.

Deeper Blue · 23-04-2020 2:51pm

I love going outside, to the pub, restaurants, cinema, visiting family and I want the restrictions to be lifted as much as anyone

Since the day the schools closed I've followed the guidelines to a T

I have a shop within 2km so haven't strayed outside that at any stage

I'll be honest and selfishly say I've found it difficult. But I've done it as have loads of others

Anyone blatantly flaunting the restrictions at the moment is an arsehole, simple as that

Like anything in life there's always a few that ruin it for everyone else. This is something that no pandemic will ever change

Beanybabog · 23-04-2020 2:52pm

I met my elderly neighbour out for a walk. She was quite defiant and said she can’t stay in any more and walks around the block now, and her friend even visited her. Her elderly friend lost her sister and can’t have a funeral and she didn’t want to be alone so came over to cry with her. So sad

I haven’t relaxed the rules but I’m about to crack. My folks wanted to lock down here with us and help mind my kids, they haven’t seen anyone for weeks either but I kept saying no. I am working, minding two small ones pretty much alone as the OH job is very busy, I’m in early pregnancy and so sick and tired, can’t do my work, dropping the ball everywhere, can’t be a good or even hands on parent, and I need help. The restrictions say that you can look after kids but I felt we didn’t classify as “essential” even though I’m technically essential services but can work at home so I plodded on alone. But I’m struggling now. The pregnancy sickness is tipping me over the edge, I was ok before this

Plumbthedepths · 23-04-2020 2:53pm

I continue to work everyday. I was always big into hand hygiene and giving people space.
Still go for my run everyday I live rurally so tbh I pay no attention to the 2km restriction.

weldoninhio · 23-04-2020 2:57pm

Jim Root wrote: »

I noticed Supermacs are back open, did they need permission for that I wonder?

Why would they? Burger King never closed at all.

fits · 23-04-2020 2:59pm

Im still sticking to the restrictions but its much more effort-driven than fear-driven now. Im definitely becoming complacent even though I know complacency is what will get us.

The toddlers are getting increasingly frustrated though and we are having some tough moments. Id give anything to be able to send them to childminder. Husband and I are trying to manage 3 full time jobs between the 2 of us. We take turns in home office and minding the twins.

Just found out an old friend of mine, her husband is in ICU. He'd be early 40s. No other conditions Id know of. They live near me too. ITs no time to get complacent.

gmisk · 23-04-2020 3:05pm

Sticking too things fairly well here I think.
Near Phoenix park and another big park which helps.
My husband is great, does a big shop once a week, he is a brilliant cook as well.
Not nipping to local shops at all. He did go to bottle bank today but it is close.
Out walking the dog early and lateish to avoid crowds.
I am working from home which has been an adjustment but getting into the swing off it now. He works in social care so more at risk from catching it unfortunately.
I made a couple of masks as well.

We did have drinks with our neighbours....when I say with...they were in their front garden and we were in ours so well over 2 metres apart...we also both only got drinks from our own houses, seats etc. Literally the only contact I have had with people in weeks.

is_that_so · 23-04-2020 3:05pm

fits wrote: »

Im still sticking to the restrictions but its much more effort-driven than fear-driven now. Im definitely becoming complacent even though I know complacency is what will get us.

Never had any great fear about it but similar enough thoughts to this now. Of a mind this current restriction will be lifted on Tuesday week but still doing what's required. Just 11 full days to go!

ixoy · 23-04-2020 3:05pm

Been very much sticking with it and barely out of the house bar a once-a-week shop and a couple of walks. Definitely an upsurge in people being being more complacent and that's frustrating because now, when I do go out, I'm being put that bit more at risk than I needed to have been.

23-04-2020 3:08pm

I exercise within the 2km (but am by Phoenix Park so is easy) but I am definitely out now for longer than I should be, and might drop into the corner shop for a snack in addition to a trip to SuperValu.

But the awareness of distancing and hygiene is definitely something that is sticking which bodes well (if my behaviour is reasonably representative)

Guy:Incognito · 23-04-2020 3:09pm

The parents of teenagers in Tallaght and Clondalkin very much eased off. But thats not saying much, these are the same groups of teenagers that you see hanging around all day every day pre lockdown . The parenting style seems very much "**** off out of the house and dont annoy me till its time for bed" . Their days filled with hanging around causing trouble in the village and at McDonalds.

Guy:Incognito · 23-04-2020 3:11pm

Jim Root wrote: »

I noticed Supermacs are back open, did they need permission for that I wonder?

Food places never had to close.

Burger King didnt.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 23-04-2020 3:11pm

fits wrote: »

Im still sticking to the restrictions but its much more effort-driven than fear-driven now. Im definitely becoming complacent even though I know complacency is what will get us.

The toddlers are getting increasingly frustrated though and we are having some tough moments. Id give anything to be able to send them to childminder. Husband and I are trying to manage 3 full time jobs between the 2 of us. We take turns in home office and minding the twins.

Just found out an old friend of mine, her husband is in ICU. He'd be early 40s. No other conditions Id know of. They live near me too. ITs no time to get complacent.

Great way to phrase it. Yup. This is it.

dancingqueen · 23-04-2020 3:22pm

I'm sticking to it. I am working from home since 18th March and now that feels normal. I am trying to go for a walk every day , but I find it difficult. My partner could walk 3 times a day. He's going insane yet he would be far more inclined to stay in if we were in 'normal' circumstances!

I go out once a week for a decent shop (small Tesco 7 min walk) and if I need anything urgent in the meantime, there is a small shop around the corner where I can get milk or vegetables if needed.

I am worrying about my job after this month

gipi · 23-04-2020 3:23pm

I've noticed this week that a number of the kids in the estate are starting to play together again, having been apart for a few weeks. They're from at least 3 households, and while they start socially distant, it disappears over time.

Not a "curtain twitcher", they are congregating in the garden next door, so I can't miss them!

One household has an emergency services worker and a healthcare worker, so I thought they'd be more careful....

I shop once a week, and get a takeaway once a week as a treat. I get panicky leaving the house these days.

iamwhoiam · 23-04-2020 3:27pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The parents of teenagers in Tallaght and Clondalkin very much eased off. But thats not saying much, these are the same groups of teenagers that you see hanging around all day every day pre lockdown . The parenting style seems very much "**** off out of the house and dont annoy me till its time for bed" . Their days filled with hanging around causing trouble in the village and at McDonalds.

Some parents you mean . I live in one of those areas and everyone around me are being careful and doing what told
Please do not lump everyone in Tallaght snd Clondalkin into the same boat

23-04-2020 3:29pm

I'm just back from my first time in a newsagents in two weeks in coincidentally Clondalkin Village. A woman in there buying bread and milk hacking into her sleeve as she walked about.

MrMusician18 · 23-04-2020 3:47pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Food places never had to close.

Burger King didnt.

The others closed because they had too few customers to remain open and the few that they did have acted like morons (e.g. blocking roads queueing) creating negative publicity for them.

The loosening of restrictions is now in sight so you will see lots of people preemptively getting back to normal. The daily death figures now seem to lack the shock power they once had, Even thinking to my own personal reaction. I was more taken aback by the day it jumped to 19 deaths than the other day where it hit 77.

Plumbthedepths · 23-04-2020 4:03pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

The others closed because they had too few customers to remain open and the few that they did have acted like morons (e.g. blocking roads queueing) creating negative publicity for them.

The loosening of restrictions is now in sight so you will see lots of people preemptively getting back to normal. The daily death figures now seem to lack the shock power they once had, Even thinking to my own personal reaction. I was more taken aback by the day it jumped to 19 deaths than the other day where it hit 77.

The figure of 77 was not the death toll for one day. The death toll for one 24hr period never reached anything close to that number. It was the notified cumulative toll for I believe from 3rd April til the day it was released.
I genuinely don't understand why they realesed figures in that manner. Similarly the death of nearly 730 people is made up of nursing homes and long term care facilities.
The single most vulnerable groups were neglected till very recently.

patnor1011 · 23-04-2020 4:37pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

The others closed because they had too few customers to remain open and the few that they did have acted like morons (e.g. blocking roads queueing) creating negative publicity for them.

The loosening of restrictions is now in sight so you will see lots of people preemptively getting back to normal. The daily death figures now seem to lack the shock power they once had, Even thinking to my own personal reaction. I was more taken aback by the day it jumped to 19 deaths than the other day where it hit 77.

Here is another shocking number.
82. and another one 2,666 and the next one 32,000

32,000 people die in Ireland every year. (average number from the last 5 years)
That make it about 2,666 a month or 82 a day.

Average age of people who died is over 80 and absolute majority of them had one or more underlying health conditions. While we have to treat this virus with respect as it cause great deal of pain to some of the people infected and vulnerable people may die contracting it we should not panic but rather try to learn to live with it. This virus is not going anywhere or going to dissappear, it is here to stay.

Neyite · 23-04-2020 6:20pm

I don't think so. But it's becoming a bit of a chore now.

I'm getting a takeaway for the first time in a month, mainly to drop one off as a treat for someone who's cocooning alone as a surprise along with their weekly essentials but also I'm gagging for one.

We are very rural so even going for a walk we are unlikely to see anyone. We are planning to camp tomorrow night in a family field just to get a change from the four walls and the two nearest supermarkets are lovely and quiet in the evenings so I usually only have to go every week or so. When I do I wear a mask and gloves and sanitise everything. Groceries get a wipe before going into the kitchen and I've a basin with a puddle of disinfectant for shoe soles inside the front door.

I've tuned out of the news /following the numbers now. I found myself getting very stressed about it so switching off has helped a lot.

tdf7187 · 23-04-2020 6:29pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

No, I'm still sticking to them for the most part, as I think the majority are. Only leaving the house to do food shopping and for exercise.

I will admit that I regularly go beyond the 2km for my exercise, but I live very rurally. Last Sunday I ran a six mile stretch without meeting a single person/car, something obviously not possible if I lived in a town or city.

So you are in fact breaching the guidelines. Youve just decided they dont apply to you. Well at least u are honest.

BanditLuke · 23-04-2020 6:33pm

Leilak wrote: »

My bf died 12 days ago aged 60 because he needed a heart procedure and it was cancelled due to covid outbreak - im so annoyed when today I saw a huge queue outside The Range, some people are definitely relaxing their movements

I'm so sorry to hear that. May he rest in peace.

Anyone willing to admit they're already starting to relax restrictions?

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