John Waters & Gemma O'Doherty to challenge lockdown in the high Court

Long_Wave · 15-04-2020 3:53pm #1

Now I know they are going to get a lot of ridicule for this but the lockdown is almost certainly unconstitutional so I wish them luck. https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1250421661062459399

Plumbthedepths · 15-04-2020 3:57pm

Interesting to see what a judges take will be.

Quantum Erasure · 15-04-2020 3:58pm

The new Mick Wallace and Claire Daly?

Glebee · 15-04-2020 3:58pm

Just back from a next door neighbours funeral who pasted away from complication due to Covid 19. Fcuk off Gemma you absolute mongloid.

15-04-2020 3:59pm

It worries me that so many people support her. If the government done nothing and people she knew were dying she'd give out about that too. Dope

CtevenSrowder · 15-04-2020 4:05pm

Ah can we not have another thread about these melts.

Tokyo · 15-04-2020 4:06pm

Mod: @Quantum Erasure - threadbanned.

The_Kew_Tour · 15-04-2020 4:08pm

It would do everyone great favour if everyone just ignored both of them

eviltwin · 15-04-2020 4:09pm

Who's bankrolling this pair of muppets?

Ash.J.Williams · 15-04-2020 4:09pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

The new Mick Wallace and Claire Daly?

they're elected

BanditLuke · 15-04-2020 4:10pm

Convinced one of them posts here in the restrictions thread.

Guy:Incognito · 15-04-2020 4:17pm

Long_Wave wrote: »

so I wish them luck.

Why, so people can "stick it to the man" , spread the virus around and kill some people?

Yeah, thatd be super awesome.

Pinkpotato · 15-04-2020 4:19pm

If ever there was a case for Internment it's these two. Hopefully they both catch it and can't speak for a few weeks. Not die or need hospital, just can't get out of bed for a while...

maestroamado · 15-04-2020 4:25pm

"they say give them enough rope and they hang themselves"

Whatever credibility they have (if any) be gone.

Seth Brundle · 15-04-2020 4:25pm

Any idea what the pair are trying to achieve from this malarkey?

Plumbthedepths · 15-04-2020 4:27pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Any idea what the pair are trying to achieve from this malarkey?

The lifting of restrictions I assume if the lockdown is found to be unconstitutional. Although if the state loses there will most likely be an appeal. By then the present restrictions should be eased

15-04-2020 4:28pm

Long_Wave wrote: »

Now I know they are going to get a lot of ridicule for this but the lockdown is almost certainly unconstitutional so I wish them luck. https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1250421661062459399

On what basis is the lockdown "almost certainly unconstitutional" in your opinion?

listermint · 15-04-2020 4:29pm

Suspicious im sure a go fund me will be involved......

Seth Brundle · 15-04-2020 4:31pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The lifting of restrictions I assume if the lockdown is found to be unconstitutional. Although if the state loses there will most likely be an appeal. By then the present restrictions should be eased

But apart from attention seeking, what benefit is it to them? Businesses are closing their doors (and had been doing so before the lockdown) because of the obvious benefits to their customers, their workforce and so on.
Why would anyone with an ounce of cop-on want to remove the procedures that minimise the spread of a deadly virus?

Plumbthedepths · 15-04-2020 4:31pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

On what basis is the lockdown "almost certainly unconstitutional" in your opinion?

The right to assemble as an example is protected by the constitution yet outlawed at the moment. So the poster may well be right. Maybe a legal mind could give a better answer.

Juicee · 15-04-2020 4:33pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

On what basis is the lockdown "almost certainly unconstitutional" in your opinion?

Article 40 (which protects personal freedom) and article 15 (which prevents legislation which is quote "repugnant" to the constitution)

As an aside, I find it amazing the amount of personal abuse that is allowed on this forum, absolutely no need for it.

Juicee · 15-04-2020 4:34pm

btw No I'm not Gemma but I know she has flagged these 2 articles in relation to the lockdown so I'd say those 2 articles are central to the case

Be right back · 15-04-2020 4:36pm

I wonder who is paying for this? What do they reckon the alternative should be?

suicide_circus · 15-04-2020 4:36pm

Glebee wrote: »

Fcuk off Gemma you absolute mongloid.

I was not aware she has Mongolian ancestry

Guy:Incognito · 15-04-2020 4:37pm

Unconstitutional or not, what are people that support this action actually looking for from it? Do you think the whole thing isnt real and that theres no risk to anyone? That no one is dying?

jrosen · 15-04-2020 4:38pm

Is this not just an utter waste of time? We have these measures to try and slow the spread for the greater good of everyone on this island.

listermint · 15-04-2020 4:39pm

Anyone that can't see a publicity ruse and crowd funding in the heart of this isn't really looking close enough.

suicide_circus · 15-04-2020 4:41pm

In a way its a ridiculous publicity stunt.

And in another way, its important to ensure the government isnt exceeding its remit

Pinkpotato · 15-04-2020 4:43pm

The constitution actually allows for this during outbreaks of infectious disease. Which is why legaslation only had to be built on for the new laws and not a full referendum

meeeeh · 15-04-2020 4:44pm

Now that's a dream couple....

I know lock down is a serious issue but all I can think about is that they are made for each other.

bennyl10 · 15-04-2020 4:44pm

Juicee wrote: »

Article 40 (which protects personal freedom) and article 15 (which prevents legislation which is quote "repugnant" to the constitution)

As an aside, I find it amazing the amount of personal abuse that is allowed on this forum, absolutely no need for it.

She keeps going on about article 40, which yes protects personal freedom, but the common good is at the heart of the entire constitution and overrules it all.

Common good, a la, not being able to kill everyone by being a dumbass and going outside, is protected by this lockdown.

No part of the lockdown is repugnant to the constitution

John Waters & Gemma O'Doherty to challenge lockdown in the high Court

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