John Waters & Gemma O'Doherty to challenge lockdown in the high Court

The One Doctor

Gemma suffers from paranoid delusions and unfortunately, people tend to believe those with an internet soapbox. I do feel sorry for her family, I know very well what it's like to live with someone with paranoid schizophrenia.

Long_Wave

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

To be fair Gemmas level of hate is 1 million times worse. Hate for migrants, hate for Black People, hate for non Irish, hate for Muslims, hate for LGBT people, hate for Mainstream journalism, hate for Mainstream politicians, hate for anyone who ever questions. As I have said repeatedly here she is an extremist hate monger.

Why do you always get all over Gemma O'Dorherty threads like a bad rash ?

listermint

Long_Wave wrote: »

Why do you always get all over Gemma O'Dorherty threads like a bad rash ?

Is that you Gemma ?

SureYWouldntYa

One of the daftest things I've seen of her is the way she goes at the people in this shop for not selling pork. Just being flat out derogatory here

https://twitter.com/Ireunderworld/status/1249794142395342855

trashcan

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

One of the daftest things I've seen of her is the way she goes at the people in this shop for not selling pork. Just being flat out derogatory here

https://twitter.com/Ireunderworld/status/1249794142395342855

Sweet Jesus !! I don't know much about this woman, I've literally only ever seen her name on Boards. But that is just bat**** crazy. So Padraig Pearse died for rashers and sausages did he ? So that every butchers shop in Ireland should be forced to sell them ? So God gave us all the animals to eat did he ? Why aren't you eating dog and cat then Gemma ? And there is no other butcher in Swords you can get your pork from, no ? (And then there's that voice, Christ it would go through you !).

SureYWouldntYa

trashcan wrote: »

And then there's that voice, Christ it would go through you !).

Now I'm stealing from a twitter comment below the video, but her voice and tone is like a stiletto to the eye

An Ri rua

Long_Wave wrote: »

Now I know they are going to get a lot of ridicule for this but the lockdown is almost certainly unconstitutional so I wish them luck. https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1250421661062459399

Quite rightly, when someone suggests and promotes criminality, Mods step in. But when someone hurrah actions that go against the social mores of practically the whole population, should such cheerleading be examined? Quite clearly, the Irish public accept this imposition quite stoically. This is not Michagan.

I can understand fully the Op reporting it but stating its almost certainly unconstitutional is a bit much. Sources please as to legal disquiet.

An Ri rua

Long_Wave wrote: »

I believe most businesses should have been free to make there own decision. If for example a hairdresser decided to remain open it should have been their prerogative to do so and let individuals decide if they want to use the service or not.

Kind of a Quantum Model of Public Health then? If you observe this virus (p)article it's there and if you don't, it's a €. Or maybe a (long) wave?

An Ri rua

An Ri rua wrote: »

Kind of a Quantum Model of Public Health then? If you observe this virus (p)article it's there and if you don't, it's a €. Or maybe a (long) wave?

A certain stench emanates from this post, half-empty bottle of Blossom Hill Rose toppled over and the now the brown paper bag is shredded. It can't be all that dignified necking it back in a dimly lit corner of Tesco car park. And the Thesaurus got a soaking, the strain will be all too much conjuring up a sentence. Even the imaginary applause is muted. How to fill the cavernous void of a meaningless existence now? I lament your ongoing toil.

An Ri rua

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A certain stench emanates from this post, half-empty bottle of Blossom Hill Rose toppled over and the now the brown paper bag is shredded. It can't be all that dignified necking it back in a dimly lit corner of Tesco car park. And the Thesaurus got a soaking, now the strain will be all too much. Even the imaginary applause is muted. How to fill the cavernous void of a meaningless existence now? I lament your ongoing toil.

Always out on a tangent. Good lad Berkie

Beholders

I actually can't tell you the amount of times I have had to disprove them just for research, (I do enjoy though how Gamma's initials spell GOD though that is almost secondary school stuff going on there) both of them including John Waters and Gemma are still doing what they have always done, their opinionated Journalists as long as they are in the press they are happy (why cause that is where they felt safe). Oddly I feel sorry for both of them cause they have to much information (internet) and (they aren't able to process it) to them it's like brain over load, they went down the rabbit hole, but unfortunately today we need to use resources before we offer an opinion, we need to check facts and make sure are sources are accurate we can't print/ or say/thinking your allowed before it becomes misinformation. But we can always have an opinion (just it may not be right).

But I will gladly sit down with John and Gemma and discuss what they want to do, as someone that is impartial to their opinions, and hear what they have to say contact me through PM

owlbethere

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

One of the daftest things I've seen of her is the way she goes at the people in this shop for not selling pork. Just being flat out derogatory here

https://twitter.com/Ireunderworld/status/1249794142395342855

When was this video taken/filmed? Was it recent?

Christ on bike? A sizable portion of the population is petrified of this virus and the damage it will do all around and all she has time for is shout about pork and sausages.

TaurenDruid

The video is a few months old.

dd973

There's a particular kind of Irish person who's purist, chauvinistic and arrogant about being born and raised here of dual Irish parentage, I think a lot of them would gravitate towards the National Party and Gemma O'Doherty's philosophy, I think they'd even look down upon UK based Irish communities as 'mail boat tinkers' with 'tan' children.

Be right back

owlbethere wrote: »

When was this video taken/filmed? Was it recent?

Christ on bike? A sizable portion of the population is petrified of this virus and the damage it will do all around and all she has time for is shout about pork and sausages.

And poor Noleen didn't get her sausages and rashers...

Braids

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=113166700

These two are wasting TAX PAYERS MONEY, seeking publicity for themselves and their OWN GAIN.

I suggest they take their concerns and INVEST the funds they have for solicitors in promoting a CANCER or Cystic Fibrosis charity - which needs funding on a daily/weekly basis. Or, make a contribution to their local Community secondary school's learning support department.
Who's with me?

threeball

Braids wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=113166700

These two are wasting TAX PAYERS MONEY, seeking publicity for themselves and their OWN GAIN.

I suggest they take their concerns and INVEST the funds they have for solicitors in promoting a CANCER or Cystic Fibrosis charity - which needs funding on a daily/weekly basis. Or, make a contribution to their local Community secondary school's learning support department.
Who's with me?

That wouldnt give them the oxygen of publicity they crave. Celebrities in their own tiny minds.

Hopefully the two if them get a good dose that knocks the sh1t out of them. A couple of days gasping for breath will at least give the rest of us a break from their ramblings.

Mrs Shuttleworth

Braids wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=113166700

These two are wasting TAX PAYERS MONEY, seeking publicity for themselves and their OWN GAIN.

I suggest they take their concerns and INVEST the funds they have for solicitors in promoting a CANCER or Cystic Fibrosis charity - which needs funding on a daily/weekly basis. Or, make a contribution to their local Community secondary school's learning support department.
Who's with me?

Wrong.

They're bringing a Judicial Review action to have the constitutionality of the legislation reviewed by a High Court Judge to ensure its compliance. The President should have done that by referring the legislation to the Council of State or the Supreme Court before signing it, given the extensive interference with personal rights outside of wartime, but he didn't.

Now If O'D and W had issued a plenary summons for damages alleging their constitutional rights had been interfered with, that would be for their own gain certainly - but they're not doing that.

uptherebels

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Wrong.

They're bringing a Judicial Review action to have the constitutionality of the legislation reviewed by a High Court Judge to ensure its compliance. The President should have done that by referring the legislation to the Council of State or the Supreme Court before signing it, given the extensive interference with personal rights outside of wartime, but he didn't.

Now If O'D and W had issued a plenary summons for damages alleging their constitutional rights had been interfered with, that would be for their own gain certainly - but they're not doing that.

If only there was more than one way to use a court case for personal gain🙄

take everything

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

One of the daftest things I've seen of her is the way she goes at the people in this shop for not selling pork. Just being flat out derogatory here

https://twitter.com/Ireunderworld/status/1249794142395342855

That is embarrassing to watch.
It seems like this woman is unwell.

basill

He doesn't sell Guinness either. Would she have him apply for a liquor licence?

sydthebeat

take everything wrote: »

That is embarrassing to watch.
It seems like this woman is unwell.

Apart from being unwell.. She is a vile evil dangerous racist.

The Nal

Two total losers.

Mrs Shuttleworth

The Nal wrote: »

Two total losers.

For your sake Nal you should hope not.

Not a chance in hell of gigs returning as long as these rules are on the statute books, "curve flattened" or not.

Mrs Shuttleworth

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

For your sake Nal you should hope not.

Not a chance in hell of gigs returning as long as these rules are on the statute books, "curve flattened" or not.

As in concerts? It's unlikely that we will see any this year, that's the reality. But that's not unique to Ireland, it's gonna apply across Europe and likely the US. Sporting events may take place in empty stadiums. It's necessary to avoid a resurgence.

blueythebear

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

For your sake Nal you should hope not.

Not a chance in hell of gigs returning as long as these rules are on the statute books, "curve flattened" or not.

Whether she wins or loses...and she will lose, the outcome will not affect the return of gigs

walshb

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Any idea what the pair are trying to achieve from this malarkey?

Notice?

Utter ego trippers..

Her buffoons have arrived at the Four Courts and have utterly no idea of how idiotic they are being. Also managed to interfere with a legal application for a special needs child.

https://twitter.com/riadach/status/1252545465805148160?s=19

https://twitter.com/GarNob/status/1252555016394735617?s=19

Ash.J.Williams

paw patrol wrote: »

I find the attitudes here bizarre. Really fcukin weird.

It is good and proper that our laws are tested in court. This is a good thing - should be seen as such.
Only a moron would object to that.

Love the lockdown or loath it - your liking should be irrelevant , a proper free society should allow and delight at these challenges. It shows the system works and prevents excessive government control.

The vitriol here is amazing , this lockdown for some on boards its like "Papal Infallibility" ,it cannot be questioned.
This awe of our betters should have died out decades ago.

We know governments can be correct at times, make mistakes at times or be downright nefarious at times . So why the gung-ho blind following of them?

The lads in government and the HSE are not infallible and nor are they make from better clay than the rest of us (to misquote Frederic Bastiat) . Not to question or challenge them is moronic.

only a moron would enter a place of work and not adhere to the social distancing to protect the workers and also to allow the courts to function ...only an absolute bellend would do that am i wrong?

AndrewJRenko

Great to see the team getting all nice and close together for the family photo.

https://twitter.com/MaryCarolanIT/status/1252619283689062406?s=19

Hope they didn't catch anything from the 5g mast though

Kermit.de.frog

Deleted User wrote: »

Her buffoons have arrived at the Four Courts and have utterly no idea of how idiotic they are being. Also managed to interfere with a legal application for a special needs child.

https://twitter.com/riadach/status/1252545465805148160?s=19

https://twitter.com/GarNob/status/1252555016394735617?s=19

There is a serious crisis with mental health in this country and i'm sure i'm not the only one who finds the numbers being sucked in by her bull**** worrying.

Widdensushi

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Great to see the team getting all nice and close together for the family photo.

https://twitter.com/MaryCarolanIT/status/1252619283689062406?s=19

Hope they didn't catch anything from the 5g mast though

how could that gathering be legal

Mrs Shuttleworth

Widdensushi wrote: »

how could that gathering be legal

The Courts are open to the public. It's not the convening of a party or concert. Strictly speaking everyone entering there does so of their own volition. Despite what RTE would tell you, the new laws have no reference to social distancing or any such powers to Gardai. They're public health guidelines only.

threeball

Widdensushi wrote: »

how could that gathering be legal

Doubt theres too many within an ass's roar of home either. Time to start lashing out a few €600 fines.

dhaughton99

threeball wrote: »

Doubt theres too many within an ass's roar of home either. Time to start lashing out a few €600 fines.

My money is on Galway.

BarryD2

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Great to see the team getting all nice and close together for the family photo.

https://twitter.com/MaryCarolanIT/status/1252619283689062406?s=19

Hope they didn't catch anything from the 5g mast though

Bunch of dickheads. As for Waters & O'Doherty, can't see anyone shedding tears if poetic justice is served upon them. Vainglorious attention seeking fools.

AndrewJRenko

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

The Courts are open to the public. It's not the convening of a party or concert. Strictly speaking everyone entering there does so of their own volition. Despite what RTE would tell you, the new laws have no reference to social distancing or any such powers to Gardai. They're public health guidelines only.

The new laws are more than just public health guidelines. They have explicit requirements on travel for essential services only and exercising within 2km.

I don't think that waving a tricolour is one of the essential journeys listed.

Mrs Shuttleworth

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

The Courts are open to the public. It's not the convening of a party or concert. Strictly speaking everyone entering there does so of their own volition. Despite what RTE would tell you, the new laws have no reference to social distancing or any such powers to Gardai. They're public health guidelines only.

A protest by Debenhams workers was broken up by the Gardaí today so nope, public health makes the convening rather illegal. Anyway, the idiots have put themselves and their loved ones at far greater risk of catching covid-19.

Guy:Incognito

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyway, the idiots have put themselves and their loved ones at far greater risk of catching covid-19.

Gemma should be grand, none of her family talk to her do they?

Annasopra

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

The Courts are open to the public. It's not the convening of a party or concert. Strictly speaking everyone entering there does so of their own volition. Despite what RTE would tell you, the new laws have no reference to social distancing or any such powers to Gardai. They're public health guidelines only.

What now? What are you on about?


https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/public_health_measures_for_covid19.html#l902c9

Balf

Widdensushi wrote: »

how could that gathering be legal

I suppose that's what the case is about.

They're politically marginal, for sure. At the same time, I'm actually more struck by how many seem to think Government can make anything illegal if they so decide. The past few hundred years of human development just seemed to pass them by.

Mrs Shuttleworth

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A protest by Debenhams workers was broken up by the Gardaí today so nope, public health makes the convening rather illegal. Anyway, the idiots have put themselves and their loved ones at far greater risk of catching covid-19.

I actually know this legislation very well as a consequence of work.

The Debenhams protest could be broken up by Gardai on the grounds that it was a convened event. Convened events even of two people not of the same household (even a hook up) are prohibited under the new laws.

The attendees at Gemma's case may well not have been essential travel in their own individual way but it is a sitting of the Court to which the public still has access under the Constitution and that is superior to statute law. So Gardai would be on much dodgier ground trying to police persons circulating within the Four Courts attempting to view a case in session. It appears they were not permitted access on public health grounds but not harassed nor ejected from the building.

In a sense the Waters / O'Doherty case is highlighting all these issues and it's disgraceful Debenhams staff were not permitted to protest. This is what cynical critics of the legislation sadly anticipated.

dan1895

If anyone is wondering what type of people these are that were in the four courts yesterday, check out the salute the woman with the crutch is doing.

bloopy

dan1895 wrote: »

If anyone is wondering what type of people these are that were in the four courts yesterday, check out the salute the woman with the crutch is doing.

Looks like she is pointing at something.

Hrududu

dan1895 wrote: »

If anyone is wondering what type of people these are that were in the four courts yesterday, check out the salute the woman with the crutch is doing.

Ah thats reaching. It looks to me like she's pointing.

Shefwedfan

dan1895 wrote: »

If anyone is wondering what type of people these are that were in the four courts yesterday, check out the salute the woman with the crutch is doing.

Bit of a stretch...not sure she is pointing either

I think that looney was been shared around Facebook becaus she found a mobile antenna or something in a building, pure nut job

Be right back

dan1895 wrote: »

If anyone is wondering what type of people these are that were in the four courts yesterday, check out the salute the woman with the crutch is doing.

To me, it's like she's showing the woman in the wine hoody something. Still don't agree that the group were allowed to congregate like that when Debenhams staff had to break up their strike.

Mrs Shuttleworth

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

I actually know this legislation very well as a consequence of work.

The Debenhams protest could be broken up by Gardai on the grounds that it was a convened event. Convened events even of two people not of the same household (even a hook up) are prohibited under the new laws.

The attendees at Gemma's case may well not have been essential travel in their own individual way but it is a sitting of the Court to which the public still has access under the Constitution and that is superior to statute law. So Gardai would be on much dodgier ground trying to police persons circulating within the Four Courts attempting to view a case in session. It appears they were not permitted access on public health grounds but not harassed nor ejected from the building.

In a sense the Waters / O'Doherty case is highlighting all these issues and it's disgraceful Debenhams staff were not permitted to protest. This is what cynical critics of the legislation sadly anticipated.

They arrived with Irish flags so ya they were convening and anyone with any sense know they were. They also actively flouted any form of distancing which is so incredibly irresponsible at the moment and they actively made it more difficult for people to do their jobs.

The entire reason for all this behaviour is not constitutional concern, it's conspiracies. They believe that 5g is causing this.. I think most people already know that this case will have zero success.

threeball

Deleted User wrote: »

They arrived with Irish flags so ya they were convening and anyone with any sense know they were. They also actively flouted any form of distancing which is so incredibly irresponsible at the moment and they actively made it more difficult for people to do their jobs.

The entire reason for all this behaviour is not constitutional concern, it's conspiracies. They believe that 5g is causing this.. I think most people already know that this case will have zero success.

Who pays for this case. Not these two loopers anyway and who picks up costs when they're not successful?

dan1895

dan1895 wrote: »

If anyone is wondering what type of people these are that were in the four courts yesterday, check out the salute the woman with the crutch is doing.

What's the group noun - a gob****e of loons?