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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,194 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I can verify he's telling the truth.

    Was watching the Late Late Show, and on comes an advert for the Ireland's Own 1920's centenary (I have that right, don't I? Centenary is 100 years, I think).
    It's pretty pricey, about €4.95. How the heck are people gonna afford it with no income?

    I'm wondering how the heck its target market are going to buy it when they're all cocooning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,970 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I'm wondering how the heck its target market are going to buy it when they're all cocooning.

    Click and collect......like the slabs of Bavaria.

    Is Kitty the Hare still in it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Kivaro wrote: »
    So instead of grabbing, how about letting go?
    70+ managers and appalling stars with obscene salaries.
    700,000+ people lost their jobs the last few weeks, yet Ryan Tubridy still gets €1/2 million (plus expenses)...... every year.

    Obscene, but you can be guaranteed that the workers and contributors of our society will be told by government and RTE that we will need to tighten our belts in the years to come.

    Power, plain and simple.

    RTE had the monopoly for about 30+ years or more, then came TV3. Even Tg4 (or T na G) was still part of RTE.

    They had power and influence... and they don't want to let that go. The thing is, people are reluctant to give that 'power' when they realise others provide it for free, or a greatly reduced cost. In many respects, they're sort of similar to the Catholic church, which dictated pretty much everything you did or didn't see in everything from the town hall to the television.

    RTE's pretty much a dinosaur-folks have so many options out there for entertainment. They don't need RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Power, plain and simple.

    RTE had the monopoly for about 30+ years or more, then came TV3. Even Tg4 (or T na G) was still part of RTE.

    They had power and influence... and they don't want to let that go. The thing is, people are reluctant to give that 'power' when they realise others provide it for free, or a greatly reduced cost. In many respects, they're sort of similar to the Catholic church, which dictated pretty much everything you did or didn't see in everything from the town hall to the television.

    RTE's pretty much a dinosaur-folks have so many options out there for entertainment. They don't need RTE.

    TV3/Virgin Media isn’t going to change that.

    Re: Operation Transformation The covid spin off remains just has a different name.

    Re: covid and Byrne and tubs, both seem not to have been tested.

    Tubs left RTÉ Tuesday, didn’t present until the Monday following O’Callaghan’s second TLLS, that’s only 19 days, but he’s able to return to work? I am to believe that he was tested 3 times in that period to show two negative results before returning to work? To me it’s more like tubs had symptoms and recovered his employer should have given him another 14days to isolate.

    Maybe I am wrong on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,505 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'm nearly sure I heard both 'tested' positive for the virus.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Elmo wrote: »
    TV3/Virgin Media isn’t going to change that.

    Re: Operation Transformation The covid spin off remains just has a different name.

    Re: covid and Byrne and tubs, both seem not to have been tested.

    Tubs left RTÉ Tuesday, didn’t present until the Monday following O’Callaghan’s second TLLS, that’s only 19 days, but he’s able to return to work? I am to believe that he was tested 3 times in that period to show two negative results before returning to work? To me it’s more like tubs had symptoms and recovered his employer should have given him another 14days to isolate.

    Maybe I am wrong on this.


    Tubs had nothing and I called it when it came out, just a bit of publicity for RTE.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'm nearly sure I heard both 'tested' positive for the virus.

    I thought that too but it’s a very quick turn around for those tests. But I am not wrong on the timeline?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I got suspicious about the Coronavirus 'claims' by RTE. I know, based on symptoms, it sounds like Claire may have had it.

    I managed to catch the flipping thing myself - and it's quite similar to a chest infection, tho more draining-it saps your energy. (Also tons of sweating).

    When one is sitting down, you technically feel fine-but try and walk a few yards, and your breathing will get exceptionally heavy and raspy. (Think someone having a very severe asthma issue).

    It doesn't sound like Ryan had it. But again, it can manifest in weird ways (someone I know who is currently in hospital recovering from the virus, had gastric symptoms first. He thought he had eaten something that didn't agree with him. When he went to his GP to get tested, the first test came back negative. So his GP sent him into hospital for more tests. They did a second Corona test, and that came back positive.).

    Idris Elba, for example, got headaches and a fever. So again, the virus can be odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    How are TV licence inspectors supposed to be peeping toms with all this social distancing going on ?
    I'd say this and future pandemics are the perfect excuse to scrap this license racketeering .
    RTE is no different from a heavy muscling in on dance halls in Tramore or Blackpool. "Its gonna be our vending machines there or else"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    How are TV licence inspectors supposed to be peeping toms with all this social distancing going on ?
    I'd say this and future pandemics are the perfect excuse to scrap this license racketeering .
    RTE is no different from a heavy muscling in on dance halls in Tramore or Blackpool. "Its gonna be our vending machines there or else"

    This discussion has plenty of times

    The license should stay, RTÉ should reform as part of it

    I don’t care if you come back with I only watch YouTube or Netflix. Fact is Ireland needs a national broadcaster.....they just need one which is run properly and the requirement for entry is not your related to someone already in RTÉ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,789 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    How are TV licence inspectors supposed to be peeping toms with all this social distancing going on ?
    I'd say this and future pandemics are the perfect excuse to scrap this license racketeering .
    RTE is no different from a heavy muscling in on dance halls in Tramore or Blackpool. "Its gonna be our vending machines there or else"


    it's really not.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    This discussion has plenty of times

    The license should stay, RTÉ should reform as part of it

    I don’t care if you come back with I only watch YouTube or Netflix. Fact is Ireland needs a national broadcaster.....they just need one which is run properly and the requirement for entry is not your related to someone already in RTÉ

    What a coincidence. I don't care about your less valid viewpoint either. I'm not advocating stealing from people's wagepackets so I'm quite happy to.retain.the high moral ground.
    Ireland existed before and will continue to exist after the existence of rte. rte is unreformable. And since it's full of good Europeans then anything national should be abhorrent to them regardless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,505 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Tubs had nothing and I called it when it came out, just a bit of publicity for RTE.....

    It would be a huge risk for these high profile folk like Byrne, Tubs, Mary Lou, Elba etc to claim they had CV19 just to garner sympathy, and more importantly, publicity.

    Tubs did stand up at the start of the LLS last week and give a speech about how well he was looked after, and he did say he had tested positive. Byrne did the same.

    If they were caught out as faking it, they would get slaughtered and potentially lose their careers once the social media mob got on their case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    it's really not.

    its heavys muscling in on private TV ownership. Its their TV now even if you paid for it with money already taxed and you have to rent it from them or go to jail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    NIMAN wrote: »
    It would be a huge risk for these high profile folk like Byrne, Tubs, Mary Lou, Elba etc to claim they had CV19 just to garner sympathy, and more importantly, publicity.

    Tubs did stand up at the start of the LLS last week and give a speech about how well he was looked after, and he did say he had tested positive. Byrne did the same.

    If they were caught out as faking it, they would get slaughtered and potentially lose their careers once the social media mob got on their case.

    It was a running joke about Charlie Bird claiming to report from sites of skirmishes, while reporting from a fancy hotel.
    Or like when he went to Alaska, but only went a mile each way, outside of his campsite.

    Folks called him out on it for years, he kept working until retirement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    What a coincidence. I don't care about your less valid viewpoint either. I'm not advocating stealing from people's wagepackets so I'm quite happy to.retain.the high moral ground.
    Ireland existed before and will continue to exist after the existence of rte. rte is unreformable. And since it's full of good Europeans then anything national should be abhorrent to them regardless


    We are in Europe, so yes I agree, Ireland is full of Europeans :P:P:P:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    its heavys muscling in on private TV ownership. Its their TV now even if you paid for it with money already taxed and you have to rent it from them or go to jail.

    It's all covered in legislation good and proper.

    It's your TV whether you paid for it or got it for free.

    You can't go to jail for not having a licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Nevin Parsnipp


    elperello wrote: »
    It's all covered in legislation good and proper.

    It's your TV whether you paid for it or got it for free.

    You can't go to jail for not having a licence.

    So if it is MY CAR I don't need to tax it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    So if it is MY CAR I don't need to tax it ?

    If you have a car that's not the subject of a declaration of non use you certainly do need to tax it.

    What's that got to do with the TV licence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    elperello wrote: »
    It's all covered in legislation good and proper.

    It's your TV whether you paid for it or got it for free.

    You can't go to jail for not having a licence.

    you can go to jail for not having a license while having a TV.
    it happens regularly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    you can go to jail for not having a license while having a TV.
    it happens regularly.

    No you can't.

    The maximum penalty for a first offence is a €1000 fine. €2000 for a second offence.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    It was a running joke about Charlie Bird claiming to report from sites of skirmishes, while reporting from a fancy hotel.
    Or like when he went to Alaska, but only went a mile each way, outside of his campsite.

    Folks called him out on it for years, he kept working until retirement.
    Ah but shur didn't he paddle up the amazon after that risking his life and health. Please leave Charlie the explorer alone didn't he grow a beard an all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Ah but shur didn't he paddle up the amazon after that risking his life and health. Please leave Charlie the explorer alone didn't he grow a beard an all

    We sure that wasn't the Shannon? :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


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    elperello wrote: »
    No you can't.

    The maximum penalty for a first offence is a €1000 fine. €2000 for a second offence.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html


    keep drinking the Kool-Aid bruh


    https://www.her.ie/life/dublin-mum-terrified-as-she-gets-prison-time-for-failing-to-pay-tv-license-279883
    Dublin Mum "Terrified" As She Gets Prison Time For Failing To Pay TV License4 years ago
    Dublin Mum "Terrified" As She Gets Prison Time For Failing To Pay TV License


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    We sure that wasn't the Shannon? :P

    Not likely... Charlie and his entourage were staying in a 5 star Lodge on the banks of the Amazon though iv heard people around these parts swear it was filmed on the the Suilin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    elperello wrote: »
    No you can't.

    The maximum penalty for a first offence is a €1000 fine. €2000 for a second offence.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html


    411 people beg to differ


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/411-people-jailed-last-year-for-not-paying-their-tv-licence-30235625.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I'm assuming many will now stop paying the license to fund the Montrose millionaire madness, when many are struggling, they dont need tubridy talking about ," the pain" while he is laughing all the way to the bank ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,505 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    you can go to jail for not having a license while having a TV.
    it happens regularly.
    Don't believe what you read on Facebook or WhatsApp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Shefwedfan wrote: »

    A quick read of those links shows clearly that the sentences were imposed by the Court for non payment of fines.

    If a person convicted in court for possessing a TV without a licence fails to pay the fine imposed they may end up being committed to prison.

    This is standard procedure for non compliance with the order of a court and is a separate matter to the original offence.

    Courts must uphold the law by ensuring that their orders are complied with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    How many times do we need to go over that argument?

    It's ridiculous. It's entirely related to the original offence, end of story.


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