Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

RabbleRouser2k

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m a devout and practicing cynic myself.

They're portraying Leo and Simon as heroes at the moment.

Never mind they were the jerks who got the hospital and health system into this sh**ty situation.

elperello

Idbatterim wrote: »

take a read of this!

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/apr/09/coronavirus-us-newspapers-impact?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

they have the perfect opportunity now, to overhaul that RTE tax payer gorgery that is going on!

That link is all about the print media.

Just while you are there, do you think weak under resourced journalism is a good thing?

satguy

They hire their sons and daughters without even an interview,, or even the job advertised.

While we pay to put our sons and daughters through college, to get a qualification to be able to do these kind of jobs.
Their sons and daughters through just turn up on a Monday morning and start.

There is so much wrong with the TV licence, is so much wrong with RTE and the way its run.

FG will never do anything to fix RTE,, but FF or SF might,, and should.

Nevermind Alice,, Who the FOOK is Lottie ..

RabbleRouser2k

satguy wrote: »

They hire their sons and daughters without even an interview,, or even the job advertised.

While we pay to put our sons and daughters through collage, to get a qualafication to be able to do these kind of jobs.
Their sons and daughters through just turn up on a Monday morning and start.

There is so much wrong with the TV licence, is so much wrong with RTE and the way its run.

FG will never do anything to fix RTE,, but FF or SF might,, and should.

Nevermind Alice,, Who the FOOK is Lottie ..

'Collage'... 'qualafication'...

Is that you Margaret Cash?

satguy

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

'Collage'... 'qualafication'...

Is that you Margaret Cash?

Typo fixed.

satguy

We are being robbed by RTE while they show us repeats all day, their news crews can't find a good story or the truth. But can spot our typoes if we say bad things about them.

RabbleRouser2k

satguy wrote: »

We are being robbed by RTE while they show us repeats all day, their news crews can't find a good story or the truth. But can spot our typoes if we say bad things about them.

RTE folks?

You mean me?

I don't work for RTE.

Gen.Zhukov

Forbes is laughing her tits off at the moment. While 2020 was always going to produce another set of disastrous accounts for RTE, she now has the perfect excuse for being sh!t at her job.

More sh!t figures Dee?
Well yes, it's because of the whole virus thing.
Really. Nothing to do with the fact that you can't do your job properly and the profane salaries/fees that the staff and contractors get then?
No. It's the virus.

Oh right so.


She'll get 2020 and probably 2021 out of it until someone eventually tells her to GTFO.

RabbleRouser2k

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Forbes is laughing her tits off at the moment. While 2020 was always going to produce another set of disastrous accounts for RTE, she now has the perfect excuse for being sh!t at her job.

More sh!t figures Dee?
Well yes, it's because of the whole virus thing.
Really. Nothing to do with the fact that you can't do your job properly and the profane salaries/fees that the staff and contractors get then?
No. It's the virus.

Oh right so.


She'll get 2020 and probably 2021 out of it until someone eventually tells her to GTFO.

I see a lot of media outlets using this crisis to blame their failures on Corona. Not just Dee, but other entertainment outlets.

(Off topic, but I found it interesting)
I saw the director of Birds of Prey (the movie) blaming Coronavirus for its failing. The movie came out and flopped long before anything went into lockdown.

fritzelly

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I see a lot of media outlets using this crisis to blame their failures on Corona. Not just Dee, but other entertainment outlets.

Advertising is way down and most media outlets rely on advertising whether print, digital or broadcast. What business is going to pay for advertising if they are not doing business
I have noticed RTE's advertising slots are pretty none existant bar the covid ads while on Newstalk they still have plenty of business ads
Are RTE charging a proportionately high fee based on viewership/listernship

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

(Off topic, but I found it interesting)
I saw the director of Birds of Prey (the movie) blaming Coronavirus for its failing. The movie came out and flopped long before anything went into lockdown.

Was a crap film - don't know what they were going for but it didn't work, the fight scenes were junk - Daredevil did far better with a TV budget

The J Stands for Jay

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I saw the director of Birds of Prey (the movie) blaming Coronavirus for its failing. The movie came out and flopped long before anything went into lockdown.

Didn't this movie just take a character or two from Suicide Squad, which was a failure, and try to make a movie out of it. How could anyone expect it to do any better than something that anyone hated ?

Kivaro

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Forbes is laughing her tits off at the moment. While 2020 was always going to produce another set of disastrous accounts for RTE, she now has the perfect excuse for being sh!t at her job.

More sh!t figures Dee?
Well yes, it's because of the whole virus thing.
Really. Nothing to do with the fact that you can't do your job properly and the profane salaries/fees that the staff and contractors get then?
No. It's the virus.

Oh right so.


She'll get 2020 and probably 2021 out of it until someone eventually tells her to GTFO.

Devious Dee will most certainly use Covid-19 as an excuse for not implementing cost savings at RTE, and with non-existence advertising revenue coming in, we should expect to see her with cap in hand going to the government for more tax payer money to sustain the outrageous salaries and expenses of her "stars", 70+ managers, and staff.

Also, anyone else getting tired of seeing the constant donation requests from the likes of Trocaire and Sightsavers etc. prevalent on RTE with the typical footage of severely distressed children in poor countries?
I think it's inappropriate to flood the market with visual graphic poverty footage; especially in the middle of our own deadly pandemic with the country going through mental anguish from deaths and over 700,000 people losing their jobs.

elperello

Kivaro wrote: »

Devious Dee will most certainly use Covid-19 as an excuse for not implementing cost savings at RTE, and with non-existence advertising revenue coming in, we should expect to see her with cap in hand going to the government for more tax payer money to sustain the outrageous salaries and expenses of her "stars", 70+ managers, and staff.

Also, anyone else getting tired of seeing the constant donation requests from the likes of Trocaire and Sightsavers etc. prevalent on RTE with the typical footage of severely distressed children in poor countries?
I think it's inappropriate to flood the market with visual graphic poverty footage; especially in the middle of our own deadly pandemic with the country going through mental anguish from deaths and over 700,000 people losing their jobs.

You are able to turn off those ads. Unfortunately for the poor of the world they can't turn off the tide of death that is killing thousands every day.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jun/05/nearly-half-of-all-child-deaths-in-africa-stem-from-hunger-study-shows

The ads are aimed at people who are not donating in an attempt to get them to help.

Brendan Bendar

elperello wrote: »

You are able to turn off those ads. Unfortunately for the poor of the world they can't turn off the tide of death that is killing thousands every day.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jun/05/nearly-half-of-all-child-deaths-in-africa-stem-from-hunger-study-shows

The ads are aimed at people who are not donating in an attempt to get them to help.

I’m a reasonably charitable person, however one of the reasons some people DON’T contribute is that once you are on the ‘books’ there is no going back..... twenty years later the blurb is still relentlessly arriving in the post box despite all requests saying you have moved on.


They need to address this crock.

Kivaro

elperello wrote: »

You are able to turn off those ads. Unfortunately for the poor of the world they can't turn off the tide of death that is killing thousands every day.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jun/05/nearly-half-of-all-child-deaths-in-africa-stem-from-hunger-study-shows

The ads are aimed at people who are not donating in an attempt to get them to help.

You are missing the point of the post (possibly deliberately) i.e. sensory overload when we are in the middle of a worldwide deadly pandemic and Irish people are losing their lives and their livelihood by the hundreds of thousands in this country. Are they supposed to give Trocaire more money for Africa now after losing their jobs? (Rhetorical)

We are already sending over a €1 billion a year in aid overseas, which Leo wants to increase to €2 billion per year, plus we are accepting thousands of asylum seekers from these countries; so we are doing enough.

Some of the charities "advertising" on RTE remind me of RTE themselves i.e. extremely well paid management and staff with very poor service provided to the intended recipient.

satguy

Kivaro wrote: »

Some of the charities "advertising" on RTE remind me of RTE themselves i.e. extremely well paid management and staff with very poor service provided to the intended recipient.

Yes, bang on there.

We still remember The Rehab Group and that Angela Kerins one.

https://www.thejournal.ie/rehab-angela-kerins-1335670-Feb2014/

And then John Delaney said he did not have to answer question, because it made
Kerins cry last time.

elperello

Kivaro wrote: »

Also, anyone else getting tired of seeing the constant donation requests from the likes of Trocaire and Sightsavers etc. prevalent on RTE with the typical footage of severely distressed children in poor countries?
I think it's inappropriate to flood the market with visual graphic poverty footage; especially in the middle of our own deadly pandemic with the country going through mental anguish from deaths and over 700,000 people losing their jobs.

elperello wrote: »

You are able to turn off those ads. Unfortunately for the poor of the world they can't turn off the tide of death that is killing thousands every day.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jun/05/nearly-half-of-all-child-deaths-in-africa-stem-from-hunger-study-shows

The ads are aimed at people who are not donating in an attempt to get them to help.

Kivaro wrote: »

You are missing the point of the post (possibly deliberately) i.e. sensory overload when we are in the middle of a worldwide deadly pandemic and Irish people are losing their lives and their livelihood by the hundreds of thousands in this country. Are they supposed to give Trocaire more money for Africa now after losing their jobs? (Rhetorical)

We are already sending over a €1 billion a year in aid overseas, which Leo wants to increase to €2 billion per year, plus we are accepting thousands of asylum seekers from these countries; so we are doing enough.

Some of the charities "advertising" on RTE remind me of RTE themselves i.e. extremely well paid management and staff with very poor service provided to the intended recipient.

I didn't miss the point of your original post at all and why would I be playing games by deliberately missing your point anyway?

You were complaining about the prevalence of charities ads on RTE television and I addressed that issue directly backed up by an informative link from a trusted media source.

As to how people could afford to give, of course you are right that those who have lost jobs are not likely to. However there are many at home with lower than normal outgoings due to the lockdown and they may wish to contribute.

Irish Government aid is a good thing because we are a comparatively rich country. The goal of 2 billion you mention is to be reached by 2030. More thn half of current aid is channeled through NGO partners.

There is a Charities regulator and in addition anyone deciding to contribute should do their own due diligence on their chosen charity.

Nevin Parsnipp

Kivaro wrote: »

Devious Dee will most certainly use Covid-19 as an excuse for not implementing cost savings at RTE, and with non-existence advertising revenue coming in, we should expect to see her with cap in hand going to the government for more tax payer money to sustain the outrageous salaries and expenses of her "stars", 70+ managers, and staff.

Also, anyone else getting tired of seeing the constant donation requests from the likes of Trocaire and Sightsavers etc. prevalent on RTE with the typical footage of severely distressed children in poor countries?
I think it's inappropriate to flood the market with visual graphic poverty footage; especially in the middle of our own deadly pandemic with the country going through mental anguish from deaths and over 700,000 people losing their jobs.

Would have thought that the Covid 19 pandemic would be be an "ideal" excuse for implementing serious cost savings in RTE ?

Every other media outlet seems to be cutting costs,salaries and in some cases staff.

Was raised here before in these days when there is no sports anywhere ...what are the sports people in RTE doing ?

Are they on reduced wages....enforced holidays...unpaid leave ...furlough or what ?

The ordinary staff in RTE are not paid excessively ...what is wrong is the top heavy management ........and the obscene wedges being paid to the likes of Duffy,Darcy, Tubbs, OCallaghan and many more .

RabbleRouser2k

McGaggs wrote: »

Didn't this movie just take a character or two from Suicide Squad, which was a failure, and try to make a movie out of it. How could anyone expect it to do any better than something that anyone hated ?

Well, Suicide Squad was a comic book first. (Tho Harley appeared in TV first, in Batman the animated series).

Suicide Squad made money, but it was a critical flop. The audience weren't too happy either.

But since Justice League,(barring Wonder Woman and Aquaman) the DC movies haven't made money. I know Shazam made a profit, but was a more modest hit.

I think on Blu-ray it made money, hence the sequel.

Kivaro wrote: »

Devious Dee will most certainly use Covid-19 as an excuse for not implementing cost savings at RTE, and with non-existence advertising revenue coming in, we should expect to see her with cap in hand going to the government for more tax payer money to sustain the outrageous salaries and expenses of her "stars", 70+ managers, and staff.

Already happening. You know the 'Government Enterprise Support Scheme' that was announced about a week ago?

RTE have already put in the papers to get money out of it.
Before December, they got somewhere in the region of €60 million. And now they're still losing money.

Idiots running that organisation, to be sure.

dublinman1990

Birds of Prey's box office release in the cinemas here is released about a month or so before it's gets released in box office in Asia, particularly in China & Japan. Birds of Prey's was to be released in Japan on the 7th of March. The release date here was a month earlier. They have now been called off for any country that has this pandemic. For any countries that have not released movies in their cinema chains yet. The studios are probably stuck between a rock & a hard place about how they plan to release their films provided it doesn't hit the release schedules of their other films already in the cinema. Trolls World Tour from Dreamworks is one example in where it could not get a cinema release here because of the pandemic. TV Spots for this film have appeared numerous times on RTÉ which says that the film will be released At Home on Demand from today. And remember the cinema release delays of 007's No Time to Die until November. RTÉ still put out the Heineken ad's for the movie which said it was still to be released in April instead of November. But it was not RTÉ's fault that they showed the ad's to the viewers with the wrong release date on them. It's the movie studio's fault for doing it because I have seen that mistake happen a few times on ITV as well. Not everyone was immune to that issue.

RabbleRouser2k

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Birds of Prey's box office release in the cinemas here is released about a month or so before it's gets released in box office in Asia, particularly in China & Japan. Birds of Prey's was to be released in Japan on the 7th of March. The release date here was a month earlier. They have now been called off for any country that has this pandemic. For any countries that have not released movies in their cinema chains yet. The studios are probably stuck between a rock & a hard place about how they plan to release their films provided it doesn't hit the release schedules of their other films already in the cinema. Trolls World Tour from Dreamworks is one example in where it could not get a cinema release here because of the pandemic. TV Spots for this film have appeared numerous times on RTÉ which says that the film will be released At Home on Demand from today. And remember the cinema release delays of 007's No Time to Die until November. RTÉ still put out the Heineken ad's for the movie which said it was still to be released in April instead of November. But it was not RTÉ's fault that they showed the ad's to the viewers with the wrong release date on them. It's the movie studio's fault for doing it because I have seen that mistake happen a few times on ITV as well. Not everyone was immune to that issue.

It's off topic to discuss Birds of Prey, so I won't kinda drag the thread down.

But Birds of Prey wouldn't open in China. Probably not in JApan either. The movie was 'R' rated-and R rated movies don't get shown in Asia. (Joker and Deadpool didn't open over there, for example. Deadpool was edited down to a 15s (or PG 13) for an Asian release.

AndyBoBandy

Jesus, RTÉ must be losing a fortune in lost ad revenue!!

Watching the SixOne news, and I’m seeing ads for Knock shrine, and Ireland’s Own

I bet if we grouped up, we could afford an ad on RTÉ, slating RTÉ!!

NIMAN

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

The ordinary staff in RTE are not paid excessively ...

I would have a guess you are wrong here.

I'd say anyone in the any length of time would be well paid. Like the esb.

The J Stands for Jay

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Jesus, RTÉ must be losing a fortune in lost ad revenue!!

Watching the SixOne news, and I’m seeing ads for Knock shrine, and Ireland’s Own

I bet if we grouped up, we could afford an ad on RTÉ, slating RTÉ!!

I don't believe you. Sounds like something from an episode of father Ted

Nevin Parsnipp

NIMAN wrote: »

I would have a guess you are wrong here.

I'd say anyone in the any length of time would be well paid. Like the esb.

MMM I would say ESB would be far better paid at ordinary staff level...but I could be wrong.

Is that the only part of my post that you had an opinion on ?

NIMAN

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

MMM I would say ESB would be far better paid at ordinary staff level...but I could be wrong.

Is that the only part of my post that you had an opinion on ?

Agree with most of the rest of it if you need to know.
But I have commented similarly in the past so I just wanted to highlight that there would be few badly paid people working for rte.

For example here are some salaries from late last year

https://www.glassdoor.ie/Salary/RT%C3%89-Salaries-E405162.htm

Nevin Parsnipp

NIMAN wrote: »

Agree with most of the rest of it if you need to know.
But I have commented similarly in the past so I just wanted to highlight that there would be few badly paid people working for rte.

For example here are some salaries from late last year

https://www.glassdoor.ie/Salary/RT%C3%89-Salaries-E405162.htm

If you read my post carefully you will find I made no reference to people being "badly paid" in RTE..I just said that ordinary staff were not paid excessively

There is, for the discerning person ...a difference.....Hmmmm ?

RabbleRouser2k

McGaggs wrote: »

I don't believe you. Sounds like something from an episode of father Ted

I can verify he's telling the truth.

Was watching the Late Late Show, and on comes an advert for the Ireland's Own 1920's centenary (I have that right, don't I? Centenary is 100 years, I think).
It's pretty pricey, about €4.95. How the heck are people gonna afford it with no income?

Then comes the advert for Knock...

Yep. RTE are stuck for money.. so they'll grab onto anything.

Kivaro

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Yep. RTE are stuck for money.. so they'll grab onto anything.

So instead of grabbing, how about letting go?
70+ managers and appalling stars with obscene salaries.
700,000+ people lost their jobs the last few weeks, yet Ryan Tubridy still gets €1/2 million (plus expenses)...... every year.

Obscene, but you can be guaranteed that the workers and contributors of our society will be told by government and RTE that we will need to tighten our belts in the years to come.

jelutong

McGaggs wrote: »

I don't believe you. Sounds like something from an episode of father Ted

Or Apre Match perhaps.