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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • #8612
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    It appears you could count on your hands the amount of countries who are actually accounting for deaths in nursing homes and the likes. Some coming to it late but many still not at all

    Yeah, the figures are underestimates, both cases and deaths, it seems. Bit of a mess really.

    Some WHO guidance clearly needed.


  • #8613
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Still waters wrote: »
    Whats the point of hiding it

    I don’t know to be honest. I can’t work it out. But it makes comparisons of death rates as useless as the total cases figure. Everyone is using different criteria around the world


  • #8614
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    How do we know where we really are at numbers wise when the testing is so far behind?


  • #8615
    CrabRevolution
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    It appears you could count on your hands the amount of countries who are actually accounting for deaths in nursing homes and the likes. Some coming to it late but many still not at all


    I don't mean this in the "Evil commies must be lying" sense, but I simply refuse to believe that Russia only has 94 deaths so far. I know it's picking up lately, but that's a very unlikely death rate for a country that size.


  • #8616
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Still waters wrote: »
    Whats the point of hiding it

    To delay dealing with the fact that they didn't act in time to protect them. To hide the fact that the very first thing they should have done was lock down the elderly and vulnerable. And who knows how many other devious reasons.


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  • #8617
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    polesheep wrote: »
    That's true. We will most likely require a vaccination cert to travel internationally. That doesn't mean, however, that we cannot get back to 'some sort' of normality.

    wont work for some newborns possibly they might have an inate immunity. like TB


  • #8618
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Any word on today's numbers?


  • #8619
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is it too much to ask for the actual truth no matter how bad and grim


    They have said it is a war and we know what is the first casualty of war.


  • #8620
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Any word on today's numbers?

    Briefing starting about now? Not sure.


  • #8621
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    speckle wrote: »
    wont work for some newborns possibly they might have an inate immunity. like TB

    I imagine they will be aware of this and make appropriate arrangements until the time comes when the vac cert isn't necessary.


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  • #8622
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,693 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Briefing starting about now? Not sure.

    Looks like it's a little late


  • #8623
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Positive cases of essential workers and their families have thus far been excluded from the national total in the UK. From today on they are being included, so today's total in the UK is actually 8700 new cases.

    Worldometeres will now be adding these ommitted cases from preceeding days ot the UK total.


    France has now also added over 7000 new cases and 1000 deaths today.
    Strange how the headlines are still mostly about how badly Spain and Italy are doing, when France, UK, Belgium are all looking a lot worse off in terms of deaths per capita


  • #8624
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    saabsaab wrote: »
    They have said it is a war and we know what is the first casualty of war.

    And don't forget the propaganda. If I'm told once more to "Stay at home" by a 'young' Covid survivor, I'll call around to his or her house and do what Covid failed to do. Media studies is going to be such an interesting subject when this is over.


  • #8625
    tony1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    Is there a briefing on now? Thought it was at 6.30 but can’t see it


  • #8626
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Mental Mickey wrote: »
    Looks like it's a little late

    Tony hasn't finished his dinner


  • #8627
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Thats too much. People wont take it lying down

    Christ, posters like these are the type of morons that will have us in lockdown until Christmas.

    Shallow, short sighted fools.


  • #8628
    John.Icy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Have they started a single briefing on time? Don't care if it's only 5 minutes late. It is not that bloody hard to pick a time and go sit at the desk for said time. Had weeks of practice.


  • #8629
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Mental Mickey wrote: »
    Looks like it's a little late

    Nearly as bad as the WHO at this stage! :)


  • #8630
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Some WHO guidance clearly needed.
    The WHO? I'd have more confidence at this stage if the surviving members of the band of the same name were in charge. The WHO have been decidedly lacklustre throughout this crisis, to the point of incompetent at times.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #8631
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    froog wrote: »
    I've been to gaeltachts many times throughout my life and met lots of gaelgoirs who refuse to speak english but understand it perfectly well. Nothing wrong that its their choice and they live in gaeltachts after all. But to suggest some of them dont actually know how to speak english is laughable.

    Again, you don't know all the people. So you can't know. You've met many gaelgeoirs. Not all the gaelgeoirs.


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  • #8632
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    How do we know where we really are at numbers wise when the testing is so far behind?
    I find the numbers useful as a trend indicator but do what you will with them. ICU and deaths are real and ICU levels are OK.


  • #8633
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    tony1980 wrote: »
    Is there a briefing on now? Thought it was at 6.30 but can’t see it

    Fergal Bowers tweeted that it was to start at 6.30 but it`s running late.


  • #8634
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Positive cases of essential workers and their families have thus far been excluded from the national total in the UK. From today on they are being included, so today's total in the UK is actually 8700 new cases.

    Worldometeres will now be adding these ommitted cases from preceeding days ot the UK total.

    The UK gov site gives a good break down of the extra cases per day and worldometer site will correct the daily cases to show a more accurate count. I wish our government would do the same with the backlog, German results.


  • #8635
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,465 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Still waters wrote: »
    Whats the point of hiding it

    They can't necessarily confirm details. I'm still not sure what we are doing, as there is a lot of confusion over whether it's just those who've confirmed via a test, or those who've had it on their death cert

    The CMO apparently suggested we do include those who may not have tested positive, but I'm not convinced


  • #8636
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    I don't mean this in the "Evil commies must be lying" sense, but I simply refuse to believe that Russia only has 94 deaths so far. I know it's picking up lately, but that's a very unlikely death rate for a country that size.

    I don't believe Russia's figures either. Or China's. I don't really care if that makes me sound bigoted. I don't believe them and whose fault is that?


  • #8637
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Your w'an on the news just said some guy with flashing blue lights (and other fake emergency service gear in the car) was questioned after following an undercover drugs unit, but they didn't arrest him? :confused:


  • #8638
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Fergal Bowers tweeted that it was to start at 6.30 but it`s running late.

    It's always running late


  • #8639
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,607 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    its for unclaimed bodies

    Still sad to see, could be homeless

    RIP
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #8640
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    easypazz wrote: »
    Any sign of tonights numbers or are they holding back an hour to double down on the gloom?


    Jaysus

    That's the spirit!


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  • #8641
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The WHO? I'd have more confidence at this stage if the surviving members of the band of the same name were in charge. The WHO have been decidedly lacklustre throughout this crisis, to the point of incompetent at times.

    The Guardian actually had a very good article analysing why this was the case today


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