CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

PokeHerKing

Duke of Url wrote: »

100k cases a day would be with 0 restrictions or social distancing took place from day1

I think it took Italy about 6 weeks to lockdown to our current restrictions. They've a 60 million population and never got anywhere near that amount of daily cases.

So I'm gonna stick with ballax.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Wolf359f wrote: »

Would there be a difference between total people infected (numbers the briefing reports) and positive samples complied by the ECDC?
If someone was waiting to be tested 2 weeks ago and their swab was in the German batch, but since then they were hospitalised and get tested quickly. 1 person (1 new case) but 2 positive tests?

The German numbers were mentioned in the briefing last night but it was ambiguous as to whether its included in the total.

If ECDC is including it in their total I guess they should be including it.

fullstop

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Denmark didn't get your memo, they are starting to lift restrictions next week

And what? Who gives a ****? We’ve no idea how that will go for them. I love the way people will pick any random country to suit their argument. “Well Lesotho haven’t gone on lockdown and they’ve only 4 cases while our gubberment lock me up and ruin the country”.

is_that_so

speckle wrote: »

we have that somewhere in an account from the giant tech company that owes us tax.

But that's just enough for one quarter.

normanoffside

New Home wrote: »

I hope you don't make a career out of trying to cheer people up. The empathy is strong in this one. :rolleyes:

You are taking me up wrong.
My point is should elderly people at some point be allowed to make a choice?
Or are they to stay inside and meet no one indefinitely?

Should they be criminalised if they decided to get out and get on with it?

It might get to the point where more vulnerable people are dying as a direct result of being locked up than would die if they took their chances.

easypazz

speckle wrote: »

we have that somewhere in an account from the giant tech company that owes us tax.

Its in an escrow account.

But you knew that ( I hope)

gmisk

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

In Belarus up to very recently a full programme of football matches was going ahead with no restrictions in full stadia every week. Maybe still is.

It's still going....but it is poorly attended...so much so they are filling the stadiums with dummies....I am not joking
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/dynamo-brest-sell-fans-a-dummy-as-belarusian-league-forges-on-1.4225974

I also heard they have sold tv rights to quite a few countries...so as usual all about money

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1248662051557380105?s=20

DevilsHaircut

wakka12 wrote: »

That even sounds like a stretch though, thats nearly 1 in 50 Irish people contracting it every single day, almost the entire country would have it after a few weeks

I think 100,000 would have been the actual apex of the peak (i.e. on one day). Fits with the early Sunday Business Post report on leaked HSE model of 50%? getting infected.

caveat emptor

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Daily number of cases is irrelevant until the backlog is cleared. They could tell us there was1000 new cases today, but most could be over 2 weeks old at this stage and not relevant to current situation. The data we need is the positive tests by test date. That would tell the real story

Yeah good point. The effect of the results being delayed by 2 weeks and the ceiling in testing capacity means we have no idea how bad it was or how bad it is or how bad it will be. I’ve tuned out of all the cases talk as doesn’t approach reality.

No point worrying about it now (Sarcasm)

r93kaey5p2izun

Belgium's figures, particularly deaths, are shocking given the population. Things must be very grim there in the hospitals.

is_that_so

fullstop wrote: »

And what? Who gives a ****? We’ve no idea how that will go for them. I love the way people will pick any random country to suit their argument. “Well Lesotho haven’t gone on lockdown and they’ve only 4 cases while our gubberment lock me up and ruin the country”.

Denmark are relevant because they are at the other end of this and everyone will be watching to see what happens, not hoping they'll fail.

easypazz

100000 cases a day and we would be done in 50 days and back to work.

Kermit.de.frog

The UK is looking quite unwell and closing in on 10,000 fatalities.

Their problems are going end up extending ours

igCorcaigh

The pandemic seems to be starting to grow now in the developing world, unfortunately.

I was, still am, hoping climate is a factor in reducing spread, but maybe it's just an effect of time lag. Which also makes me thing the infection had spread to Europe earlier than we thought.

normanoffside

Numbers of cases confirmed in each county really shouldn’t be compared as they are simply a result of testing in each country.

If they could go ahead and test absolutely everybody in every country then we would be able to compare.

CrabRevolution

fullstop wrote: »

And what? Who gives a ****? We’ve no idea how that will go for them. I love the way people will pick any random country to suit their argument. “Well Lesotho haven’t gone on lockdown and they’ve only 4 cases while our gubberment lock me up and ruin the country”.

It's a funny one. If a poster supports a certain thing, the very fact any given country is simply doing it is evidence that we should do it too. Not the impact or results or anything. Just "X are planning on doing it, therefore we are stupid not to".
This ignores the fact that dozens of countries are doing dozens of different things, and any single one can be referenced to support any argument.

New Home

normanoffside wrote: »

You are taking me up wrong.
My point is should elderly people at some point be allowed to make a choice?
Or are they to stay inside and meet no one indefinitely?

Should they be criminalised if they decided to get out and get on with it?

It might get to the point where more vulnerable people are dying as a direct result of being locked up than would die if they took their chances.

Like I said before, not only can they end up sick or worse (straining the health system and causing untold needless suffering to their near and dear), but they are also not immune to being carriers and to being contagious themselves. So yes. They should.

easypazz

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

With exponential growth and R0 of around 3, it would have been c. 30,000 the day before the peak of 100,000.

So we would be done by now?

igCorcaigh

Easton Tall Gutter wrote: »

Belgium's figures, particularly deaths, are shocking given the population. Things must be very grim there in the hospitals.

Differences in counting methodology.
It was described in the guardian blog. Or BBC. Not sure...

RobertKK

Easton Tall Gutter wrote: »

Belgium's figures, particularly deaths, are shocking given the population. Things must be very grim there in the hospitals.

They added in figures for retirement homes that had not been added before now and not from the previous 24 hours, the real figure is 114.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/forest_fr1ends/status/1248663656075845633?s=20

wonski

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Because both the WHO and our government totally fecked this advice up... and now they are desperately trying to backtrack, without looking like the lemmings that they actually are!

The WHO, however, are still stubbornly sticking to their initial line, that masks do not protect the wearer from the virus. (Which experts in Asia will tell you is complete horsesh!t)

Had we been proactive with mask wearing in the beginning, like the Czechs for example, we could potentially have saved a lot of lives and had a better chance of getting this virus under control quicker. But our bunch of reactionary muppets in government, just don't have the foresight or common sense to be proactive in this way!

It would be great, if one day Ireland could lead the way instead of slavishly following along like braindead little sheep! Always looking for someone else to hold our hand, and tell us what to do... it's pathetic really. And it has certainly cost us many lives in this damn thing!

Chechs are not good example looking at their numbers tbh.

Masks issue is a hot topic from the start, bú just like with gloves I can see how people don't use them as they should. And the gloves are the worst.

There definitely is a benefit of using them, but looking at the general behaviours of people and their hygiene habits, I doubt we will see major drop in cases if masks are to be worn when in public.

Time will tell.

careless sherpa

easypazz wrote: »

So we would be done by now?

If that had happened and you had gotten sick and hospitalised you could very well be completely done by now

froog

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Unless you know all the people (and you don't), you can't know this.

I've been to gaeltachts many times throughout my life and met lots of gaelgoirs who refuse to speak english but understand it perfectly well. Nothing wrong that its their choice and they live in gaeltachts after all. But to suggest some of them dont actually know how to speak english is laughable.

DevilsHaircut

easypazz wrote: »

So we would be done by now?

Sorry, I deleted that post as it's wrong. Not the actual day before. But there would have been only one day of 100,000 people getting infected.

Philip Nolan hasn't published the model from yesterday, but peak would have been soon enough from now, with declining rate of new infections down the other side of the curve.

Bridge93

It appears you could count on your hands the amount of countries who are actually accounting for deaths in nursing homes and the likes. Some coming to it late but many still not at all

Still waters

Bridge93 wrote: »

It appears you could count on your hands the amount of countries who are actually accounting for deaths in nursing homes and the likes. Some coming to it late but many still not at all

Whats the point of hiding it

is_that_so

easypazz wrote: »

So we would be done by now?

Yep our health system would be! That's what this has been for.

Kermit.de.frog

RobertKK wrote: »

They added in figures for retirement homes that had not been added before now and not from the previous 24 hours, the real figure is 114.

Have you got a source?