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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • #5972
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    declanflynn wrote: »
    where?

    None of my business. They have not been accused of any crime anyway.


  • #5973
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    There was a myth flying around here a few days ago, that the death figures in North Italy, for Q1 this year, are much the same as last year.

    Now I know Madrid is in Spain, but I would imagine this data is similar to Northern Italy.
    An analysis of death records in the Madrid region covering the second two weeks of March suggests that the real number of coronavirus deaths could be much higher than official figures state. The records show an unexplained rise in mortality of around 3,000 people during this period.

    Between March 14 and 31, Madrid’s civil registries issued 9,007 burial licenses, according to figures released on Tuesday by the Madrid regional High Court. This is more than twice as many deaths as were recorded during the entire month of March 2019, which was 4,125 according to the National Statistics Institute (INE).

    The INE data is not available in 15-day intervals, but based on the monthly figures, it is possible to estimate that there were an average of 133 deaths a day in the Madrid region in March 2019, which multiplied by 18 equals 2,394 deaths between March 14 and 31 of last year.

    During the same period this year, there were 9,007 deaths – an increase of 6,613. Yet official figures put the number of deaths due to the coronavirus during that time period at 3,439.

    https://english.elpais.com/spanish_news/2020-04-08/coronavirus-deaths-in-madrid-could-be-3000-above-official-figures.html


  • #5974
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    easypazz wrote: »
    U2 pay the tax that they are required to pay. Nothing wrong with that.

    Time to look at that word 'required'.


  • #5975
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    polesheep wrote: »
    I just said it to my wife,a nurse, and she said tell him to feck off and pay his taxes.

    But they do pay their taxes.


  • #5976
    Neamhshuntasach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Open 2 lanes. One for essential workers coming or going to work. Checkpoint at the end. If you're not essential and can't prove it with ID. Then to the side with you or turned back.


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  • #5977
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gintonious wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/sportsdes/status/1247958225976164352

    What the hell is wrong with people???

    Well, when you block a major road, people tend to get stuck in traffic.


  • #5978
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    polesheep wrote: »
    Time to look at that word 'required'.

    Are you accusing them of wrong doing?


  • #5979
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    easypazz wrote: »
    None of my business. They have not been accused of any crime anyway.
    but out then


  • #5980
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Gintonious wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/sportsdes/status/1247958225976164352

    What the hell is wrong with people???

    Maybe they are coming home from work or going to work at a night shift or going to do a food shop. There's no law against a grocery shop. Do you want them all to walk?


  • #5981
    Maestro85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Maestro85


    fullstop wrote: »
    It is necessary to get the message across to people who don’t need to be on the roads. They only way to stop them is to sicken them with checkpoints.




    Penalty points and fines are the way to go.


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  • #5982
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Poorside wrote: »
    Self entitled and selfish.

    In fairness two lanes of traffic cut to one and every car been stopped even then smallest amount of traffic won’t be long getting tailed back lots of people still working


  • #5983
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    declanflynn wrote: »
    but out then

    Tell us what crime they are committing?


  • #5984
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    polesheep wrote: »
    I just said it to my wife,a nurse, and she said tell him to feck off and pay his taxes.

    Sure she did.:rolleyes:


  • #5985
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    easypazz wrote: »
    Are you accusing them of wrong doing?

    No. I'm accusing revenue of not doing their job properly.


  • #5986
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    froog wrote: »
    interesting. i'm no immunologist but it sounds like you would expect. the people who needed antibodies the most made the most (older people). the virus even though mild in all these cases most likely required more antibodies in the older people. i'm pretty sure antibodies are ramped up when the invader appears once your body has learned how to make them, so i don't think this is too much to worry about.

    just my thrupence.

    I would have concerns that those not producing a critical level of antibodies will lack immunity going forward.

    During the 1918 flu pandemic - there was a number of waves of the disease - including at least one deadlier strain. Hopefully this does not occur eith COVID-19. However if it does - it will leave a lot of those who have been infected at risk from the disease again.

    Also kind of plonks the idea of 'herd immunity" right on its head - if this is a feature of the disease tbh.


  • #5987
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Gardai caused it? If these people stayed at home there would be no tailback!!!

    A good number of these people would have been working. Checkpoints are required, but a decent proportion of people still need to travel for work.


  • #5988
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    easypazz wrote: »
    Tell us what crime they are committing?
    who said he is committing a crime


  • #5989
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Decision on state exams due on Friday, any chance of schools returning soon?


  • #5990
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Sure she did.:rolleyes:

    You are welcome to come and ask her yourself.


  • #5991
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,675 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    declanflynn wrote:
    Lmfao It's ok as long as toolbox bono is paying more tax than the average person, open your tiny mind man
    Is there others on this morning mysterious list that you give out about not paying tax?
    Can you give us the full list?
    Can you then give us the list of these types who have given ten million euro to help against this pandemic?


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  • #5992
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    declanflynn wrote: »
    who said he is committing a crime

    Non issue then, they obey the law same as the rest of us.


  • #5993
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    5 weekends in a row with had storms, and now hardly a drop of rain.

    Coincidence or consequence?


  • #5994
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Is there others on this morning mysterious list that you give out about not paying tax?
    Can you give us the full list?
    Can you then give us the list of these types who have given ten million euro to help against this pandemic?

    You do realise that a charitable donation is tax deductible?


  • #5995
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    Wombatman wrote: »
    There was a myth flying around here a few days ago, that the death figures in North Italy, for Q1 this year, are much the same as last year.

    Now I know Madrid is in Spain, but I would imagine this data is similar to Northern Italy.



    https://english.elpais.com/spanish_news/2020-04-08/coronavirus-deaths-in-madrid-could-be-3000-above-official-figures.html


    Same data has been done on Italy too. Far higher death count this period compared to last, and that increase isn't accounted for in the Covid figures.


    https://twitter.com/J_CD_T/status/1245739661449977867


  • #5996
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    polesheep wrote: »
    You are welcome to come and ask her yourself.

    I've no desire to do that and this argument could go on until new years day or even the end of the world. If you walk away, I will follow.


  • #5997
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    polesheep wrote: »
    You do realise that a charitable donation is tax deductible?

    Can you ask your wife what taxes U2 are evading at the moment


  • #5998
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    polesheep wrote: »
    What if some of them are nurses or doctors?

    Doctors and nurses and cleaners and supermarket staff are all waiting in line at the roadblocks like everyone else.


  • #5999
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,675 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    kingshankly wrote:
    In fairness two lanes of traffic cut to one and every car been stopped even then smallest amount of traffic won’t be long getting tailed back lots of people still working
    Yeah, you only have to look at the other side of the road to see there aren't many cars going the other way. I'd be willing to guess that one lane and an idiot somewhere up further cause this.


  • #6000
    Shelly66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Shelly66


    This Friday early morning I hoping no checkpoints on the M50, I have medical appointment scan in Tallaght , travelling from Northside of Dublin over. Would make sense to have checkpoints before entering slip roads to M50. Should I expect long delays 9 am? Maybe get Luas?


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  • #6001
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Is there a mistake in the USA figures? It’s gone up by tens of thousands today?


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