Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

lordlame · 08-04-2020 11:19AM

seandotcomm wrote: »

Jessie > Tifa & Aeris

The ending is up on YouTube - not watched it. Seems to be drama over it!

Barlett · 08-04-2020 11:21AM

My copy posted from Shopto on the 2nd still hasn't arrived in Parcel Motel in Belfast. I wonder should I take it that it's lost? Really wanted a physical copy but thinking of going the digital road now as I'd like to have it for the long weekend, there's hardly anywhere else I could get a physical copy by Friday?

Retr0gamer · 08-04-2020 11:34AM

lordlame wrote: »

The ending is up on YouTube - not watched it. Seems to be drama over it!

I just read about it. Think it's pretty much the height of the Kingdom Hearts comparisons because it sounds pants on head anime stupid :pac:

Mr.Fantastic · 08-04-2020 11:42AM

Just got this in the post today . delighted !

Xenji · 08-04-2020 12:27PM

Barlett wrote: »

My copy posted from Shopto on the 2nd still hasn't arrived in Parcel Motel in Belfast. I wonder should I take it that it's lost? Really wanted a physical copy but thinking of going the digital road now as I'd like to have it for the long weekend, there's hardly anywhere else I could get a physical copy by Friday?

Give it a few more days, I had a 8 day wait from dispatch to arriving at the Antrim PM depot for a item last week from the UK.

It's the luck of the draw at the moment as I had two more items arrive within 24 hours this week.

st_jimmy · 08-04-2020 12:37PM

Deluxe Edition is back up on Square Enix EU website. https://store.eu.square-enix-games.com/en_EU/product/564482/final-fantasy-vii-remake-deluxe-edition-ps4

ussjtrunks · 08-04-2020 12:38PM

Is Smyths or GameStop better for delivery?

martingriff · 08-04-2020 12:49PM

ussjtrunks wrote: »

Is Smyths or GameStop better for delivery?

If your just ordering it now you will be waiting a bit with either I say

martingriff · 08-04-2020 12:51PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Hmm, for me tedium and padding is the deadliest sin in any game, so this thread doesn’t fill me with confidence that this is for me

Sometimes padding is good for a game especially if it a remake. Also don't forget they are pulling stuff from the entire FF VII universe and not just the original

Retr0gamer · 08-04-2020 12:56PM

I'm sorry but padding is just bad game design. There's no excuse.

RedXIV · 08-04-2020 01:07PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm sorry but padding is just pad game design. There's no excuse.

Oh I see what you did there!

seandotcomm · 08-04-2020 01:13PM

Lots of padding in the journey to the sector 5 reactor but I enjoyed all of it. Really enhances the overall scale of the city imo
Banter between the party is really good and so is the buildup of anticipation to the main job ahead.
they do a good job of adding to the gravitas of what you're about to do.

Sidenote: Game.co.uk still haven't shipped my Deluxe edition which I ordered on 30th of March. glad I went for the Shopto standard edition as a failsafe

one armed dwarf · 08-04-2020 01:32PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm sorry but padding is just pad game design. There's no excuse.

Comes down to the argument for the content itself. I think the reactor 5 stuff is bad tbh, but the game makes a good argument for the Aerith sections being longer imo.

Like it's about what is going on with these characters, is this extra time being spent in a meaningful way? Definitely not in some cases, absolutely yes in others.

Tbh Retro tho I think there's not a lot you can contribute to this argument without seeing the game for yourself, and no offense intended by that! It's hard to stress how different this thing is while being the same

Except you read the spoilers so maybe you already get what I mean

Morpork · 08-04-2020 01:33PM

martingriff wrote: »

Sometimes padding is good for a game especially if it a remake. Also don't forget they are pulling stuff from the entire FF VII universe and not just the original

Right and remember in the original, you'd have to run around in circles for hours to grind your level up? I'd much rather have side quests and padding to gain experience than just plain grinding.

Also padding has a negative connotation where as you could just as easily call it extra content. I'm happy to have extra content from a universe I've loved for years. But as one armed dwarf said that might not be the case with people who haven't played the original.

gimli2112 · 08-04-2020 01:39PM

Yeah I was thinking the same. Side quests are essentially padding as is, technically earning xp in an online fps to unlock extra stuff.

one armed dwarf · 08-04-2020 01:42PM

Like to just talk about chapter 8 for a second

There's a moment where they play an altered version of Aerith's theme. It's the scene where you're at the playground. There's nothing special about the scene really other than it's a famous scene from the original game that people will probably remember.

What I found interesting is in the original game Aeris' theme was like this midi orchestra outpouring of grief, it's only played twice in the original game IIRC. In Remake the theme feels pitched somewhere between sad nostalgia and a sense of hope. I know this sounds insane but the soundtrack feels to be aimed at manipulating emotions in a way that isn't just nostalgia bait. Like they know that you know what happens later which is what I'm getting at when I say that this game will lose some of its impact for the audience who haven't played the original.

I ****ed up Cloud's equipment during this scene cause I was crying lol

Zero-Cool · 08-04-2020 01:49PM

In the early parts with Tifa, does the camera center on her boobs or is it just my imagination?

Mikiek14 · 08-04-2020 01:55PM

My copy from gamestop finally shipped! Taught i get it early but at least i get it for release day!

martingriff · 08-04-2020 01:57PM

Morpork wrote: »

Right and remember in the original, you'd have to run around in circles for hours to grind your level up? I'd much rather have side quests and padding to gain experience than just plain grinding.

Also padding has a negative connotation where as you could just as easily call it extra content. I'm happy to have extra content from a universe I've loved for years. But as one armed dwarf said that might not be the case with people who haven't played the original.

I agree with you with the grinding. Grinding can be awful and been able to do it with quest is great. The 1 thing I hope they upgrade in the next part in relation to grinding is the Chocobo breeding.

But ya it might feel different to the different generations who played the original

st_jimmy · 08-04-2020 02:02PM

Mikiek14 wrote: »

My copy from gamestop finally shipped! Taught i get it early but at least i get it for release day!

Yep just got the same notification. Glad we will have it before the bank holiday.

ReverseGiraffe · 08-04-2020 02:11PM

same here from gamestop just got the email now

Morpork · 08-04-2020 02:14PM

Zero-Cool wrote: »

In the early parts with Tifa, does the camera center on her boobs or is it just my imagination?

That's what I'll be doing anyway! Thank god I'm getting it on the weekend :pac:

Retr0gamer · 08-04-2020 02:31PM

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Comes down to the argument for the content itself. I think the reactor 5 stuff is bad tbh, but the game makes a good argument for the Aerith sections being longer imo.

Like it's about what is going on with these characters, is this extra time being spent in a meaningful way? Definitely not in some cases, absolutely yes in others.

Tbh Retro tho I think there's not a lot you can contribute to this argument without seeing the game for yourself, and no offense intended by that! It's hard to stress how different this thing is while being the same
Except you read the spoilers so maybe you already get what I mean

You're getting me wrong. Padding is just needlessly extending a game with content that is lazy and not fun. So dungeons that go on forever with repeated enemies is padding. Sidequests that are nothing more than basic mmo levels of kill X amount of enemies is padding. Dungeons with bad switch puzzles that just waste your time is padding.

Extended story sections or new additional areas with meaningful gameplay I wouldn't class as padding. They're more expansions or extensions of the scenario and are welcome.

Morpork wrote: »

Right and remember in the original, you'd have to run around in circles for hours to grind your level up? I'd much rather have side quests and padding to gain experience than just plain grinding.

I played through the original lately and other than super bosses there is absolutely no requirement to do any grinding in the original game. The majority of FF games since the 16 bit days have been balanced that you don't need to go grinding.

Zero-Cool · 08-04-2020 02:44PM

Episode 4 of Inside. Music and Sound Effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DliMpiemUy8

sniper_samurai · 08-04-2020 02:54PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You're getting me wrong. Padding is just needlessly extending a game with content that is lazy and not fun. So dungeons that go on forever with repeated enemies is padding. Sidequests that are nothing more than basic mmo levels of kill X amount of enemies is padding. Dungeons with bad switch puzzles that just waste your time is padding.

Extended story sections or new additional areas with meaningful gameplay I wouldn't class as padding. They're more expansions or extensions of the scenario and are welcome.

I played through the original lately and other than super bosses there is absolutely no requirement to do any grinding in the original game. The majority of FF games since the 16 bit days have been balanced that you don't need to go grinding.

Agreed, unless you are going to fight the Weapons or have been excessively fleeing from battles there is no need to grind in the original game.

08-04-2020 03:01PM

Ah lads, come outa that

FF6,7,8,9,10 all had grinding

Random battles every 2 minutes or less

sniper_samurai · 08-04-2020 03:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah lads, come outa that

FF6,7,8,9,10 all had grinding

Random battles every 2 minutes or less

That isn't grinding. Grinding is when you go to farm those random encounters for xp instead of progressing onwards.

It's not Dragon Quest where you have to fight slimes for nearly an hour before it is safe to walk more than 20 feet outside the starter town.

08-04-2020 03:08PM

It's most certainly a grind

And the majority of those needed you to be at certain levels at certain sections of the game

It's even worse in FF8 9 and 10

I remember getting stuck so many times only because I hadn't leveled high enough to pass certain bosses

That's grinding

Retr0gamer · 08-04-2020 03:14PM

Don't want to sound all git gud and that but it's called being ****e at the game.

FF from 4 on are really nicely balanced so that you don't need to grind to beat them. If you go through the game as normal you will have no problems if you use the right tactics. Maybe for the final boss but that's when you should be doing optional end game stuff and levelling up naturally.

There's absolutely no need to grind in a good modern jrpg unless you are running away from most battles. FF 7 on particular is a cake walk. Biggest difficulty spike is demon wall who is grand if you know to put party in back row, something is European with no previous jrpg knowledge probably didn't know.

08-04-2020 03:16PM

You still need to compete all those battles to successfully be at those levels

Hundreds of them that happen and that's not running around in circles

Standard play

It's grinding regardless

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