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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • #4382
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Level 42 wrote: »
    How could the numbers be going up when weve all been stuck in since before paddy's day

    Passed on in the home. If you imagine each person who had the virus is now confined to a circle of only a handful of people. With each of those it may take up to 14 days to show up. Them people may also have 1or 2 additional contacts who can subsequently get infected. In this scenario you would see daily increases steadily fall over the course of about 3 or 4 weeks, before decline over the subsequent weeks. Which is pretty much what we have seen over the past 2 weeks


  • #4383
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Big increase in deaths across the board today.

    Weekend reporting causing issues? 1k over and above yesterday and I think a few places like the US and Spain have more updates.


  • #4384
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Just Saying wrote: »
    You are totally incorrect as I explained in post #4375


    Have you a link to where the HSE say that. Where are my numbers incorrect?
    All my numbers are based on HSE except the 6000 which is from an RTE report. If I am wrong how many tests have the HSE labs done this week?
    And is the German number included in that figure? Thanks.


  • #4385
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    The people who died today would have been infected 2-3 weeks ago. The lockdown hadn't even started.

    Can't be sure, we have heard here from relatives how quickly some go after being infected, can be 2 or 3 days.


  • #4386
    Tilikum17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    He's on YouTube also was posted the other day

    Lol oh right sorry.


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  • #4387
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Fact is we may have seen the worst of this. 3rd day new cases are down.

    Deaths are the lagging indicator so will be last to come down.

    Unfortunately even if we had no new cases for a week, some people would be saying it's about to get worse etc.


  • #4388
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    The people who died today are a reflection of those who got sick when we were reporting 150 cases a day. It doesn't bode well for a fortnight's time when we'll have deaths from when we're averaging 350 cases a day.


  • #4389
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The calls for further lockdown are just daft. There's generally at least a 3 week lag between infection and death. People who died today likely got infected around Patrick's Day, when the pubs were just closed. There is ZERO benefit from kneejerk reactions like that.

    Did I hear right that 22 of the 210 deaths have come from the ICU? There must be a large, large proportion of the deaths coming from nursing homes if that's the case.


  • #4390
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    if 99% of Ireland's population stayed indoor, it still leave around 50,000 people ingonring the rules, that's a huge number....

    But 99% of opportunities for infection are gone resulting in a virus under control


  • #4391
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Number updated to match today's report
    do people still want updated charts or are they too much data?


    No Change in number
    508683.PNG

    Slow Change
    508683.PNG

    Big Drop in numbers
    508685.PNG


    interesting visualization of covid19
    http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/


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  • #4392
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    CitizenFloor wrote: »
    Its not that I don't see your point, I read the article, and I can see why the company is worried. In these extenuating circumstances, nothing would surprise me. Maybe not a runner by the HSE, but I could foresee some other way of the HSE "avoiding the obligations of the contract", especially given the current situation. The company needs to protect it millions of Euro investment....

    What happens when the HSE approaches another private company for something else?

    They made a deal, its up to their legal/finance department to fulfill it.

    If I was in charge I would hit them with whatever the appropriate legal equivalent is of a compulsory purchase order, and simply take the ventilators needed.

    I wonder how people who work there would feel if someone dear to them was triaged out of ICU for the lack of a ventilator.

    Maybe it's just as well I am not in charge. ;)


  • #4393
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    Video on WhatsApp of a critical care doctor in New York. He thinks they’re treating patients incorrectly.

    How do I share a WhatsApp video?


    A WhatsApp group video? The app that's home to more misinformation on this than anything else?

    No need to share. We're grand, thanks


  • #4394
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    They should hand over all the testing to the Germans if they have the capacity, the HSE dont seem to be able to manage to scale up testing here.
    They have failed to deliver on any of the statements they have made about testing.
    They are really building a large testing system from scratch. As Henry pointed out they'd normally take months to get to this point. In project terms this is almost like speccing on the fly! Add in the setback of the supply issues and the situation becomes clear. It is coming, it's just the timeline have been nudged a little further into the future. Give them a few more weeks and then judge.


  • #4395
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Just Saying wrote: »
    The German lab results have been included since last Friday and initially at least were clearing a backlog of older tests which had not been analysed.

    Tests are counted on the day they are done not on the day results come back.
    they should be on the day they are requested, we should be going back over stats and altering and checking day of death etc...


  • #4396
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,030 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    If I was in charge I would hit them with whatever the appropriate legal equivalent is of a compulsory purchase order, and simply take the ventilators needed.

    I wonder how people who work there would feel if someone dear to them was triaged out of ICU for the lack of a ventilator.

    Maybe it's just as well I am not in charge. ;)
    Yes, just as well. This is the fault of the HSE. They should just pay the bill. You realise in a compulsory purchase order money changes hands. The company would be happy with that I am sure. What you are implying should happen is stealing.


  • #4397
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Can't be sure, we have heard here from relatives how quickly some go after being infected, can be 2 or 3 days.

    You can be pretty sure, the average number of days until death is 8. For every person who dies in 2-3 days there are others who die after 12-14


  • #4398
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,209 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    Video on WhatsApp of a critical care doctor in New York. He thinks they’re treating patients incorrectly.

    How do I share a WhatsApp video?

    It was posted already a couple of days ago - it's the guy that's comparing this to altitude sickness, rather than pneumonia, right? Actually, two of his videos were posted.


  • #4399
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,137 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    marno21 wrote: »
    The calls for further lockdown are just daft. There's generally at least a 3 week lag between infection and death. People who died today likely got infected around Patrick's Day, when the pubs were just closed. There is ZERO benefit from kneejerk reactions like that.

    Did I hear right that 22 of the 210 deaths have come from the ICU? There must be a large, large proportion of the deaths coming from nursing homes if that's the case.

    And hospital cases not in ICU.


  • #4400
    ShayNanigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    The Brits are planning a #ClapForBoris campaign for tonight 8pm. Soooo many one liners I could be making about that one... Yeah. Let's just wait for the guy get rid of Covid-19.


  • #4401
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Deaths are measured diffently which is a problem. For example UK deaths today only related to hospital deaths. Ours relate to positive tests even if it is not the cause of death.

    Arent testing as many


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  • #4402
    Maestro85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Maestro85


    Has the restrictions been lessened today? A lot more people were out today in the tourism site I work in.


  • #4403
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Feck. A college friend of mine who is a doctor in England has covid-19. She’s mid-30s. Hopefully she’ll be okay.

    Someone who works in my company fell 3 weeks ago and was admitted to hospital with pneumonia. Tests confirmed covid19. They were back at work Monday. Remember, for the vast majority of people this is not a death sentence


  • #4404
    deaglan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭deaglan1


    Today's Stats for Deaths Per One Million Population - make of it what you will.
    Deaths-per-1-M-population.png


  • #4405
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Have you a link to where the HSE say that. Where are my numbers incorrect?
    All my numbers are based on HSE except the 6000 which is from an RTE report. If I am wrong how many tests have the HSE labs done this week? Thanks.

    Paul Reid said it on Sunday and the CMO yesterday.

    The way it works is I get tested today. This is included in the figure for tests completed today.

    The day the result comes back (say April 14) if positive it will be included in the new cases figure on that day.

    The daily new cases figure is quite simply the number of positive lab results received on that date and could be from tests completed any day in approximately previous 14 days.

    All along each day you had more tests being completed than results coming through.

    Now each day you have more results coming through than tests completed as the backlog is cleared by the German lab.


  • #4406
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Coyote wrote: »
    Number updated to match today's report
    do people still want updated charts or are they too much data?

    I appreciate the graphs, but would love a 2/3 liner explaining the upshot of the change since previous day if that was possible. A dummies guide so to speak!


  • #4407
    ShayNanigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    Any news on the antibody tests? I'd love to know if I had it already or not so I can be of service to others.


  • #4408
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,818 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    Video on WhatsApp of a critical care doctor in New York. He thinks they’re treating patients incorrectly.

    How do I share a WhatsApp video?

    In any industry, there will always be the odd disagreeing voice. Even in a specialized industry like medical there will always be the odd wrong view, the odd disagreeing voice. We just need to look less at others and focus on the core groups of experts that are at the top of their game and the top level of expertise. They are there for a reason.


  • #4409
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,008 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    ShayNanigan wrote: »
    The Brits are planning a #ClapForBoris campaign for tonight 8pm. Soooo many one liners I could be making about that one... Yeah. Let's just wait for the guy get rid of Covid-19.

    All 60 million of them or just forty people on Twitter?


  • #4410
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,797 ✭✭✭threeball


    nacho libre wrote: »
    The peak better come soon in France and Spain or the danger is that dissent will grow among people under lockdown. There were suggestions that it had, yet the death rate seems to have risen again in these two countries if i'm not mistaken

    The French are barely observing the "lockdown". They're out in droves in Paris, milling around everyday, 100's of them packed in to little market streets. All very militantly French and very stupid.


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  • #4411
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Maestro85 wrote: »
    Has the restrictions been lessened today? A lot more people were out today in the tourism site I work in.

    Not by the government. People are just starting to ignore the restrictions to an extent which will lead to the health services being more overwhelmed than they can handle.


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