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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #4502
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    cameramonkey wrote:
    How many test are they doing at the moment do you know?
    Why are you asking me that.

    Every day you ask that question and dont seem to watch the actaul daily briefings.

    Then you take a number and extrapolate and speculate about that number over many posts.

    Rinse and repeat.

    Why don't you tell me how many tests are being performed each day? Its all you talk about.


  • #4503
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    easypazz wrote: »
    Source?

    I didn't think so.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/other-sport/coronavirus-cheltenham-symptoms-latest-updates-17942590

    I'd be able to prove the fact further, but your beloved government haven't put adequate testing in place.


  • #4504
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    easypazz wrote: »
    Source?

    functioning brain


  • #4505
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    gabeeg wrote: »
    The terrible travel advice for Cheltenham and elsewhere will lead to many Irish infections and deaths.

    Sorry if that upsets you, but it's fact.

    These folks went came home and all went to a pub afterwards, this was probably the night of the Temple bar incident. All including the man that died were well aware of the risks at this point, yet went to the pub anyway. Yet it's Leo's fault for not forcing them to stay at home at that point.


  • #4506
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »
    Thanks for posting this as it’s what I’ve been arguing is the case for days.

    Looks like this is not the case and that you are mistaken.
    Ice Storm wrote: »
    An update from Gavan Reilly on ICU numbers.



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  • #4507
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    gabeeg wrote: »
    https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/other-sport/coronavirus-cheltenham-symptoms-latest-updates-17942590

    I'd be able to prove the fact further, but your beloved government haven't put adequate testing in place.

    Well done, a media article, a paper never refuses ink as they say.


  • #4508
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    gabeeg wrote: »
    functioning brain

    Good for you, great effort to backup your point. Well done again.


  • #4509
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    owlbethere wrote: »
    A massive LOL. There's many different manufacturers around the world of them juice. I have a juice from an English company, and they have a cleanroom environment for their juice.






    I’d rather take my chances with tobacco than bottles of snake oil if I had to choose.
    In 20 years there will be research supporting how harmful the vapes are in my opinion.
    Your lungs aren’t designed to be inhaling bottles of that


  • #4510
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    gabeeg wrote: »
    If they'd given travel advice that people should not attend, and anyone that does attend should self-quarantine for two weeks - then almost nobody would have gone.

    Where are they going to self-quarantine?

    The virus was in this country long before Cheltenham - whether want to believe that or not - didn't a family of 4 in Clare come back from skiing in Austria and one of them a healthcare worker - went to work and resulted in 100+ healthcare workers having to self isolate.

    Now i didn't see any tweet outing that person for endangering the lives of their colleagues? None at all, because it's not their fault.

    Just like it's not Leo's fault for some lad dying - in fact i doubt any journalist or anybody in fact, would put a tweet up against their name accusing a healthcare worker of spreading the virus and/or leading to deaths - but it's open game on government ministers.


  • #4511
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,570 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Ace2007 wrote:
    And how are you going to deal with the little thing called the border - where we have no say on what happens - we aren't manning it - and any suggestion of doing so - could lead to all sorts of trouble, Imagine someone's army son was shot dead because he was asked the man the border - that could cause way more issues than this virus on the island of Ireland.
    I see the type you are now, you just keep putting up road blocks.


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  • #4512
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    gabeeg wrote: »
    The terrible travel advice for Cheltenham and elsewhere will lead to many Irish infections and deaths.

    Sorry if that upsets you, but it's fact.

    We can use our status as an island to reduce travel here as much as possible. But NI also have to play their part.

    A lot of people miss the "as much as possible" part.

    And there are still a small number of people who would quite happily have continued flights from Northern Italy right up to today, and see no need to restrict and control flights from places like London and New York and quarantine for two weeks anyone coming from there, our government being among that small number.

    You will never break the cycle of new infections if you keep introducing additional ones from outside. Its a classic fuel on the fire scenario. We're going to end up in economic lockdown for at least a year because of this, at least until the vaccine comes on stream.


  • #4513
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    lbj666 wrote: »
    These folks went came home and all went to a pub afterwards, this was probably the night of the Temple bar incident. All including the man that died were well aware of the risks at this point, yet went to the pub anyway. Yet it's Leo's fault for not forcing them to stay at home at that point.

    The official government advice was that it was fine to go.

    the gob****es that went to the festival were following government advice, ergo the gov are to blame.

    It was awful, awful advice


  • #4514
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    lbj666 wrote: »
    These folks went came home and all went to a pub afterwards, this was probably the night of the Temple bar incident. All including the man that died were well aware of the risks at this point, yet went to the pub anyway. Yet it's Leo's fault for not forcing them to stay at home at that point.

    Surely Leo should have placed all over 70's under house arrest since March 1st, and closed Irish airspace since March 1st, and left 20000 Irish stranded in Spain, and left all the school tours in Italy.

    He is a disgrace so he is. He caused it all, all on his own.


  • #4515
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Busi_Girl08 wrote: »
    Interesting how, in ther midst of all of this and all the retail restrictions...Aldi are selling garden furniture. https://www.aldi.ie/c/specialbuys/dates/2020-04-02?sort=popular&q=%3Apopular%3AtransactionalStatus%3Atransactional%3AtransactionalStatus%3Anontransactional%3AEvent%3AGarden&page=1

    We mightn't be able to go much further than our gardens for a while...


  • #4516
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    Ice Storm wrote: »
    An update from Gavan Reilly on ICU numbers.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1245289339086680075?s=19

    This is some battle to be correct on the ICU beds situation, I don't know who to cheer for, Nox has already done a victory lap and speech now this. Great drama.


  • #4517
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Dr Tony Holohan in hospital for tests unrelated to coronavirus - expected to be released tomorrow


  • #4518
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    gabeeg wrote: »
    If they'd given travel advice that people should not attend, and anyone that does attend should self-quarantine for two weeks - then almost nobody would have gone.

    Agreed, it wouldn’t have been worth the risk


  • #4519
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    These press conferences are a strange one. If the HSE provided a daily report and then journalists submitted written questions with the HSE answering in time for their news bulletins would it not be just as effective? In one of the press conferences one of the journalists was scrolling through Twitter while a question was being answered from another journalist.

    I have to say a lot of questions and issues being raised here are then subsequently raised by journalists so for all the talk about the public not following social media I am glad that these threads are being followed somewhere.


  • #4520
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    You would find it very hard to find any country that can keep up with their own demand for testing, let alone take on thousands of samples from another country.


    China must have a huge testing infrastructure with some spare capacity as they seem to be getting it under control. We have EI aircraft flying daily there for PPE.


  • #4521
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    the Netherlands are still going for herd immunity:

    Lockdown unnecessary - says health agency
    "as long as people stick to the current measures - keep 1.5 meters apart, don't go outside if you're sick, wash your hands regularly, and avoid touching your face. "
    https://nltimes.nl/2020/04/01/covid-19-curve-flattening-lockdown-unnecessary-says-health-agency

    this with:

    1,152 patients currently treated in ICUs

    total number of deaths is now 1,173


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  • #4522
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭blackcard


    obi604 wrote: »
    I see Tony Holohan is in hospital - for something unrelated to Corona

    Probably stress. Not surprised. Every day on the nations airwaves, high pressure stuff.

    What stress? Sure some of the people on here think this whole operation is simple and can be easily managed. If they were managing this, we would have no cases at all. Any more than this is failure. Sure a couple of weeks ago, they were warning of a worldwide shortage of reagents


  • #4523
    Doctors room ghost
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    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Dr Tony Holohan in hospital for tests unrelated to coronavirus - expected to be released tomorrow




    If we got 10 cent for every time that was mentioned on here,we could chip it all in and get him lucozade,grapes and a fcukin taxi home when he’s discharged


  • #4524
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I see the type you are now, you just keep putting up road blocks.

    And your the type that calls the government clowns for the way they have handled this situation - yet i doubt you would name other countries and governments who have handled it well? Just name one -

    You want us to turn into North Korea over night - and to hell with everyone - that's how your coming across - close the country - but you don't think of the practicalities in that - what exactly that means - and how would you deal with the North.

    Like i said it's easier for people to blame the government than blame society and people around them.


  • #4525
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,591 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Stheno wrote: »
    What's the betting the first question will be if Dr Tony has been tested followed by outrage if the answer is yes?

    He might have had a sample taken if had symptoms which Is unlikely given statement to rte. It then would go to a lab to be tested which would take at least a few days.


  • #4526
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    lbj666 wrote: »
    These folks went came home and all went to a pub afterwards, this was probably the night of the Temple bar incident. All including the man that died were well aware of the risks at this point, yet went to the pub anyway. Yet it's Leo's fault for not forcing them to stay at home at that point.

    Who are you talking about that passed away ?


  • #4527
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,795 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    If we got 10 cent for every time that was mentioned on here,we could chip it all in and get him lucozade,grapes and a fcukin taxi home when he’s discharged

    Who?? :)


  • #4528
    [Deleted User]
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    New Home wrote: »
    He could've made quarantine compulsory for them, as well as for anyone else coming from abroad.

    Well, from the account, they came straight home and went to the pub. Zero personal responsibility. Also, is there any evidence whatsoever that any of that crew had the virus?

    Seems like no one in the country wants to the personal responsibility for anything. It's always the Goberment. Have we handled this well, probably not, but so far we seen to have managed better than most of western Europe


  • #4529
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Who are you talking about that passed away ?

    Some old man died in Tralee, seems he went to the pub, there were people there that had been in Cheltenham and people are saying Leo murdered the old man and this whole thing is Leo's fault.


  • #4530
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    gabeeg wrote: »
    The official government advice was that it was fine to go.

    the gob****es that went to the festival were following government advice, ergo the gov are to blame.

    It was awful, awful advice

    But was it fine to go the pub when they came back? The first set of restrictions came the Thursday of Cheltenham, they went, weren't told to isolate but the country was starting to close up shop, social distancing was being heavily emphasised but they said **** it I'm off to the pub.


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  • #4531
    is_that_so
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    cj maxx wrote: »
    Who?? :)
    The CMO.


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