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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #4472
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is a very sad

    https://twitter.com/gazzahead/status/1245040219033911296

    Was Leo's fault those dicks went to Cheltenham? And we cannot know that this poor man caught from them. In all likelyhood he didn't


  • #4473
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    gabeeg wrote: »
    It's not a cheap dig. They let it happen.

    The dogs in the street knew it would lead to deaths. Holohan and co did not.

    It is a random tweet of a meeting that may or may not have involved people who had Corona virus. So it may not have happened. If it did it doesn't even mean it it involves the virus. If it did it does not mean he was close enough for transmission.

    It is absolutely a random dig to link the death to Leo.


  • #4474
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Ice Storm wrote: »
    An update from Gavan Reilly on ICU numbers.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1245289339086680075?s=19

    It was always clear the number in ICU was at the point in time but some people kept questioning it.


  • #4475
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    easypazz wrote: »
    And so surely die the old man, but he went to a high risk area anyway?

    Like I said its sad that people are trying to use a death to score cheap shots

    I'm not sure you know what a cheap shot is.


  • #4476
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Leo thanked China . What a stateman he is.:mad:

    This whole event is stage managed to fcuk by FG on the backs and health of the hardworking healthcare staff.


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  • #4477
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    owlbethere wrote: »
    With some people not showing symptoms of this but reports says lungs can still show some scarring and I read this can also target other organs. The function of other organs will have to be tested like liver, kidneys - can GPS and run them kind of tests.
    You can get a yearly test in the matter private that covers everything, think I paid over 500 for it , the VHI also do a similar one.


  • #4478
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    babybuilder wrote: »
    They had a chance to get their heads around that 5 weeks ago. "Full state of preparedness" my arse.

    So you don’t think any other government in the word would or should have wanted test kits 5 weeks ago...just little old ireland ploughing a lone furrow? **** me the drivel spouted in here :rolleyes:


  • #4479
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Was Leo's fault those dicks went to Cheltenham? And we cannot know that this poor man caught from them. In all likelyhood he didn't

    He could've made quarantine compulsory for them, as well as for anyone else coming from abroad.


  • #4480
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Having to deal again and again with the same relentless idiotic questions from journalists on testing delays etc. will not have helped Tony Holohan's stress levels/health.


  • #4481
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Ace2007 wrote:
    How long are you prepared to be in lockdown as you say?
    As long as it takes. Doing it right means it only has to last about four weeks after you have no new positive tests.
    Doing it right means nobody in or out of the country, proper lockdown and social distancing at all times.
    Then we can let our citizens back in the street but you restrict travel until everywhere else is clear of it.
    And if you really, really have to travel then you get quarantined at your own expense for fourteen days upon your return.


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  • #4482
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Today's press conference lead by Dr Ronan Glynn is at 5:30pm


  • #4483
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭crossman47


    New Home wrote: »
    He could've made quarantine compulsory for them, as well as for anyone else coming from abroad.

    And where would he have put them all?


  • #4484
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    jackboy wrote:
    Any idea what country the reagent is manufactured in? Is there just one company producing the reagent?
    I dont know. Someone did post a link in this thread about a company from Holland but i dont know if thats the company we get our stock from.
    cameramonkey wrote:
    If we need more tests done quickly we should send some away if there is capacity somewhere else. Each batch could have known Positive/ negative control samples in them so that we could verify that those samples were correct. We could also send samples that have been split in to an A and B sample and then test our A sample when we have the capacity.This is what they do for drug tests for athletes.

    You would find it very hard to find any country that can keep up with their own demand for testing, let alone take on thousands of samples from another country.
    Away With The Fairies wrote:
    How long should someone be symptom free before returning to normal?
    I'm not a medic and would not try to offer medical advice.

    I have read that people should be 5 days symptom free but people should obviously contact their GP.
    tobefrank321 wrote:
    Question Martina. If you don't have a positive covid 19 test result, can you apply for government assistance? Many people will be tempted to keep working if they haven't got a test result.
    I have no idea about government payments. Perhaps someone else here might have the answer.

    I dont think people should return to work if waiting for a result. But if someone has been symptom free for a number of days their GP may give them the green light.


  • #4485
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    gabeeg wrote: »
    I'm not sure you know what a cheap shot is.

    I know exactly what a cheap shot is, an old man died, he went to a pub knowing the virus was rampant, he may have caught it in the pub, or the next pub, it might have come from somebody who might have been in Cheltenham, but maybe the barman was back from skiing in northern Italy, but its all Leo's fault.


  • #4486
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    ITman88 wrote: »
    no way the 2km restriction from your home will be adhered to much longer.

    I've no idea why people are kicking up so much fuss over the 2km restriction. This is only related to exercise. If people need more than 2km to exercise, then there must be something wrong with them. It's not that difficult to achieve. If you want to run 20k, do feckin laps of a certain area.


  • #4487
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    New Home wrote: »
    He could've made quarantine compulsory for them, as well as for anyone else coming from abroad.

    And if he did that - then people would have found ways around it - just fly to Belfast and cross the border.

    What i don't get is why everything that happens in this country people blame the government. No one ever thinks maybe they are doing all that they can, they can't stop the virus - no country has.

    if they quarantined them in a hotel, and the chef died - then it would be the government's fault.


  • #4488
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Christy42 wrote: »
    It is a random tweet of a meeting that may or may not have involved people who had Corona virus. So it may not have happened. If it did it doesn't even mean it it involves the virus. If it did it does not mean he was close enough for transmission.

    It is absolutely a random dig to link the death to Leo.

    The terrible travel advice for Cheltenham and elsewhere will lead to many Irish infections and deaths.

    Sorry if that upsets you, but it's fact.


  • #4489
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    owlbethere wrote: »
    They should be at least €100 a box now. Especially considering there is an alternative and some people will argue with the next bit I'm going to write. There is a better alternative - vaping.

    This crisis could be used to wipe out cigarettes entirely from the population so long as they don't target them little vape juice bottles of 10ml the same way as cigarettes.





    Them same bottles of juice are mass produced in China from god knows what.anti freeze,cat piss,and a tea spoon of corona virus throw in.
    But yeah, vaping is good.
    The only thing you’re lungs are designed for is breathing.anything else is just not good for you.wouldnt surprise me in the least if vaping and corona virus are some ways connected in China.


  • #4490
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    New Home wrote: »
    He could've made quarantine compulsory for them, as well as for anyone else coming from abroad.

    He can dig up all the roads in Ireland too to prevent people dying in car crashes.


  • #4491
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    bb12 wrote: »
    so he's cycling along the lovely country lanes, coughs, splutters or spits and it lands on a field gate. it's the busiest time of the year for farming, so farmer comes along, opens said field gate and voila they are infected.

    most farmers work alone so you've just taken a food producer out of circulation and probably risked the lives of many animals as it's right bang in the middle of calving and lambing season right now.

    :D Utter nonsense! April fools?

    Dramatic though. He wont stop at a gate to admire livestock and smear the gate with 'da virus'. I have a small farm myself by the way.

    Riddle me this, what if he only goes for a 2km cycle and passes a few gates?

    As I said, utter nonsense. Did make me laugh though.

    If my auntie has balls she'd be my uncle.


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  • #4492
    deaddonkey15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Was Leo's fault those dicks went to Cheltenham? And we cannot know that this poor man caught from them. In all likelyhood he didn't

    He may well have already had it before the Cheltenham lads came back. In which case it was even more irresponsible for him to be out in a bar, regardless of how much he ‘liked a pint’.


  • #4493
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    eagle eye wrote: »
    As long as it takes. Doing it right means it only has to last about four weeks after you have no new positive tests.
    Doing it right means nobody in or out of the country, proper lockdown and social distancing at all times.
    Then we can let our citizens back in the street but you restrict travel until everywhere else is clear of it.
    And if you really, really have to travel then you get quarantined at your own expense for fourteen days upon your return.

    And how are you going to deal with the little thing called the border - where we have no say on what happens - we aren't manning it - and any suggestion of doing so - could lead to all sorts of trouble, Imagine someone's army son was shot dead because he was asked the man the border - that could cause way more issues than this virus on the island of Ireland.


  • #4494
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    gabeeg wrote: »
    The terrible travel advice for Cheltenham and elsewhere will lead to many Irish infections and deaths.

    Sorry if that upsets you, but it's fact.

    Source?

    I didn't think so.


  • #4495
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    And if he did that - then people would have found ways around it - just fly to Belfast and cross the border.

    What i don't get is why everything that happens in this country people blame the government. No one ever thinks maybe they are doing all that they can, they can't stop the virus - no country has.

    if they quarantined them in a hotel, and the chef died - then it would be the government's fault.

    If they'd given travel advice that people should not attend, and anyone that does attend should self-quarantine for two weeks - then almost nobody would have gone.


  • #4496
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Actually it would probably need to be twice a year and made compulsory.




    Good luck with that.
    Before any of this started it was already difficult to get an appointment to see a gp with many gps refusing to take on new patients in Dublin and other cities.
    It’s easy to forget how bad it was but in reality the health services were struggling well before this and will continue to after


  • #4497
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Today's press conference lead by Dr Ronan Glynn is at 5:30pm

    What's the betting the first question will be if Dr Tony has been tested followed by outrage if the answer is yes?


  • #4498
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Them same bottles of juice are mass produced in China from god knows what.anti freeze,cat piss,and a tea spoon of corona virus throw in.
    But yeah, vaping is good.
    The only thing you’re lungs are designed for is breathing.anything else is just not good for you.wouldnt surprise me in the least if vaping and corona virus are some ways connected in China.

    A massive LOL. There's many different manufacturers around the world of them juice. I have a juice from an English company, and they have a cleanroom environment for their juice.


  • #4499
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Allinall


    gabeeg wrote: »
    The terrible travel advice for Cheltenham and elsewhere will lead to many Irish infections and deaths.

    Sorry if that upsets you, but it's fact.

    It's not.


  • #4500
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yeah he did during the press conference.

    RTE reporting hes in for tests, expected to be released tomorrow and deputy cmo Ronan Glynn will head up this evenings press conference.

    Non covid related for the CMO they also say    .

    I honestly don't see how they can say that these days. Anyone feeling unwell has to presume they might have CV until tests are done. I presume he's tested fairly regularly. But he's in a very public position where social distancing is virtually impossible. I wish him a speedy recovery whatever he has.


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  • #4501
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    gabeeg wrote: »
    If they'd given travel advice that people should not attend, and anyone that does attend should self-quarantine for two weeks - then almost nobody would have gone.

    Source?


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