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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,528 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I don’t know how anyone in Ireland can smoke these days with the price of the fcukers.14 euro for 20 smokes.70 fcukin cent a piece.
    That’s an expensive hobby and the same ones complaining they have no money then.
    God be with the days when you got your 10 fageens for 2 pound or even before it a single and a match for 10pence

    They should be at least €100 a box now. Especially considering there is an alternative and some people will argue with the next bit I'm going to write. There is a better alternative - vaping.

    This crisis could be used to wipe out cigarettes entirely from the population so long as they don't target them little vape juice bottles of 10ml the same way as cigarettes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    saabsaab wrote: »
    A bit off topic but relevant..


    The current crisis will promote a move to a universalbasic payment. Millions are now looking for state money who would never have thought it possible a few weeks ago. If such a payment system was already in place this would not be necessary and social welfare systems would not be needed.

    It could even be used as a test period for UBI. Since it is basically happening anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,570 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Ace2007 wrote:
    I think it because a certain cohort of people will not listen to Leo and Simon, as they are the government and not the expert. By having a independent expert - more people may listen.
    It's no surprise that people wouldn't listen to those two clowns.
    They are responsible for things being as bad as they are here. We knew before this virus arrived on our doorstep just how bad it was but instead of getting ahead of the curve and shutting everything down they just did nothing.
    I'm not alone amongst ordinary who started taking precautions and locked ourselves down over four weeks ago. Those idiots only brought it to a serious level five days ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    When all this blows over I could definitely see the need for something like a human NCT being needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Are you talking about deaths in Ireland hitting 1000 a day? Not a hope. So much fear mongering on here :rolleyes:

    The average death rate in Ireland in ‘normal’ times is between 80 and 90 per day depending on the time of year. I think some people are under the impression that if it wasn’t for Covid there would hardly be any deaths at all.
    To put it in context, if we were unfortunate enough to reach the level they have in Italy, we would have about 40 per day from Covid. Hopefully that won’t happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Were they trying to underplay the situation there so the Olympics would go ahead.

    Undoubtedly they were.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    wadacrack wrote: »

    What is sad is using his death to have a cheap dig at Leo and others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Denmark - 232 new cases, 14 deaths
    Norway - 64 new cases, 2 deaths (so far)
    Sweden - 512 new cases, 59 deaths

    Imagine being the Swedish PM right now as it begins to dawn on you that you've condemned countless thousands of your countrymen to death with idiotic policy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,777 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Gynoid wrote: »
    It could even be used as a test period for UBI. Since it is basically happening anyway.

    UBI will probably mean the dismantling of the normal welfare state and in the end wouldn't be a good idea as UBI will end up not being able to cover living costs in the long run. Especially in healthcare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,249 ✭✭✭jos28


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Lest no forget he was on the late late with tubs Friday before last, he's been bouncing around so much it wouldn't shock me.

    :eek::eek:He can't be sick, we need Tony !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Dr.Tony Holohan is in hospital for tests after feeling unwell although it is being stated that it is not thought to be directly related to the virus.

    Wouldn't be surprised if its stress related. He must be under a huge strain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    owlbethere wrote: »
    When all this blows over I could definitely see the need for something like a human NCT being needed.

    Like an annual check up with your Doctor?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Doesn't the test capacity limit of 1500 get mentioned about every 4 pages?


    The poster seems to have been able to have a rough idea of the amount of total test done a day or two before the figures were announced, although they were out by about 3000 so I was wondering if they had some insight that we don't have. The 1500 mentioned at the press conference is slightly confusing as the official numbers released by the HSE say that an average per day for the last week is 1745.

    I think you should look at the official figures rather than mindlessly believe what is written every four pages, weren't we putting 5000 test through the labs every day according to some poster here and anyone who suggest otherwise was trying to cause panic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's no surprise that people wouldn't listen to those two clowns.
    They are responsible for things being as bad as they are here. We knew before this virus arrived on our doorstep just how bad it was but instead of getting ahead of the curve and shutting everything down they just did nothing.
    I'm not alone amongst ordinary who started taking precautions and locked ourselves down over four weeks ago. Those idiots only brought it to a serious level five days ago.

    Why make personal attack of the ministers in government - they are following medical advice - what party do you want in power -SF not exactly doing much in the north although they are in a power sharing agreement - do you want to follow the UK or US or maybe even adopt the Swedish model?

    And yet we have other posters posting linked about Italy and Greece were the population is getting sick of lock down and unrest is brewing.

    It was set out from the very start that there were different stages.

    How long are you prepared to be in lockdown as you say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    easypazz wrote: »
    What is sad is using his death to have a cheap dig at Leo and others.

    It's not a cheap dig. They let it happen.

    The dogs in the street knew it would lead to deaths. Holohan and co did not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    wadacrack wrote: »

    It’s also from some random twitter account, I would take it with a very large pinch of salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    easypazz wrote: »
    What is sad is using his death to have a cheap dig at Leo and others.

    Yea should have left that out of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Denmark - 232 new cases, 14 deaths
    Norway - 64 new cases, 2 deaths (so far)
    Sweden - 512 new cases, 59 deaths

    Imagine being the Swedish PM right now as it begins to dawn on you that you've condemned countless thousands of your countrymen to death with idiotic policy.

    Donald Trump was praising himself last night, we might have 100000 dead but if it wasn't for me it could have been 2 million.

    It will be interesting to see how America votes if USA comes out near the top of the table in terms of per capita deaths.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ice Storm


    An update from Gavan Reilly on ICU numbers.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1245289339086680075?s=19


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Denmark - 232 new cases, 14 deaths
    Norway - 64 new cases, 2 deaths (so far)
    Sweden - 512 new cases, 59 deaths

    Imagine being the Swedish PM right now as it begins to dawn on you that you've condemned countless thousands of your countrymen to death with idiotic policy.

    The same could be and is being said about Boris Johnson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Like an annual check up with your Doctor?

    With some people not showing symptoms of this but reports says lungs can still show some scarring and I read this can also target other organs. The function of other organs will have to be tested like liver, kidneys - can GPS and run them kind of tests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    owlbethere wrote: »
    When all this blows over I could definitely see the need for something like a human NCT being needed.

    That's very scary thought, more worthy of North Korea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    gabeeg wrote: »
    It's not a cheap dig. They let it happen.

    The dogs in the street knew it would lead to deaths. Holohan and co did not.

    And so surely die the old man, but he went to a high risk area anyway?

    Like I said its sad that people are trying to use a death to score cheap shots


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Not a hope because of the measures we have put in place? or just not have a hope.

    What's the highest death recorded per day we'll get to do you think?

    Under 100 at most


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    gabeeg wrote: »
    It's not a cheap dig. They let it happen.

    The dogs in the street knew it would lead to deaths. Holohan and co did not.

    It is a cheap dig, If even the dogs in the street knew - why did the gentleman go to the pub himself?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Like an annual check up with your Doctor?

    Actually it would probably need to be twice a year and made compulsory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I hope people don't think we're doing well because we're not.
    An increase rate that looks close to dropping below 10%, which is where Italy were a short time ago suggests we are. Still no time for complacency as they keep saying but we are undeniably heading the right way and the next week or so will give indicators on what might happen. I still think they will consider some easing, maybe minor, much later in the month.


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