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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,156 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    849 deaths in Spain today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

    133 according to the IT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    I don't understand it. It's mostly cop on and I don't have a degree in microbiology. Why does it seem difficult to some people?

    Quite a high % of people are incapable of thinking for themselves outside the realms of basics.

    By nature most people are sheep who need to be led.


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  • Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wonski wrote: »
    Good for you.

    What I see outside is a joke. Centra being a hot spot. There are families sitting around having chat regularly outside. With other families.

    I would say 100% compliance here where I am in a very built up part of Drogheda. I really dont understand this "people still out partying" stuff.... really?

    Anywhere I have gone is eerily quiet, no kids out at all and there are 900 houses in my estate. I think people have really copped on .

    I would also say that telling people they can only exercise within 2km means there WILL be a lot of people out in built up areas, you cant avoid it. For that reason I dont think the 2km rule has been thought through.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    ZX7R wrote: »
    It will simply not possible to go indefinitely with the current restrictions that are Imposed.
    There will be some form of restrictions for the foreseeable future but not what we have know

    Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

    There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,527 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

    Its only a matter of time before a stay at home order is enforced for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    wonski wrote: »
    We have no lockdown.

    Just some people working from home.

    The rest walking around and driving around.

    Lockdown lol...

    No lockdown, tell me any time you have seen temple bar like this at any time of day or night.

    https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

    The cities pigeons must be lepping with the hunger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    How we wish we could see and hug our grandchildren! This is the only thing we've struggled with through the past few weeks.

    If it’s any consolation, your children and grandchildren feel the same and are thinking of you. My boyfriends mother was on the phone a few hours begging to drop “something small” off outside and he had to get really tough with her about the reality of the situation. It was heartbreaking for all of us, but she’s taking too many risks and needed to hear it.

    We miss her madly, but we also want her to be here for cuddles and chats and cups of tea when this is all over.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Fergal Bowers said this morning that it's the number of hospital and ICU admissions (and deaths) that needs to be focused on (rather than the number of confirmed cases, due to issues with the tests/getting test results).

    Yes this is what I think is more important as testing will differ depending on how tests are being carried out and what criteria. It’s the ability our hospitals have to treat the patients that is more important as opposed to the amount of people testing positive ( in my opinion)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Palmach


    Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

    There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.


    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Palmach wrote: »
    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

    Why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,128 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    John Oliver is gas on this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,796 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.

    The Global CFR is 4.93% based off WorldOMeter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    If it’s any consolation, your children and grandchildren feel the same and are thinking of you. My boyfriends mother was on the phone a few hours begging to drop “something small” off outside and he had to get really tough with her about the reality of the situation. It was heartbreaking for all of us, but she’s taking too many risks and needed to hear it.

    We miss her madly, but we also want her to be here for cuddles and chats and cups of tea when this is all over.

    What do you mean to drop something small? Are you restricting drawings etc going into the house? I would have liked to do that for older relations but I’m nervous sending pages or anything the virus could live on to their house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

    There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.


    They are not "almost at breaking point".
    Do you even know how many ICU beds there are in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    Why ? If your in your own house theres absolutely no need to be doing this.

    All you need to do is wash your hands regularly especially after coming in from outside. But you dont need to wash them each time you touch something in the house, just pointless

    OCD on speed

    Imagine what would happen if the housemate appears out of his bedroom ....And just takes a cup out of the press .....fills the kettle ....turns the kettle on ...takes milk out of fridge ....takes teabag out of tea jar makes cup of tea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Palmach wrote: »
    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

    Well done. You know best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Inquitus wrote: »
    The Global CFR is 4.93% based off WorldOMeter

    Yep and increasing, it was 3.4% back in February.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Where do you live?

    Where I am there's almost nobody on the streets. And we're not having a total lockdown - everyone is expected to stay inside except for essential trips, and exercise. So there will be a small number of people out, validly, at any one time.

    This is the same as my area D14. Very few people out and about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    As I suspected, they are just kids https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/irish-doctors-return-from-australia-you-don-t-run-away-from-things-like-this-1.4213048

    'Speaking about working as a doctor during the coronavirus crisis she said there was some fear. However, “it’s drummed into you in medical school, you don’t run away from things like this,” she said.'

    It's a wonder no irony is found in the statement above with reference to the Australian hospitals they've abandoned.

    I know I'll get heat for this but I think what they've done is unethical and is based on a misplaced sense of nationalism which has caused them to abandon their colleagues in a crisis. I'm surprised that they weren't challenged by the journalist who interviewed them.

    Doctor working in Perth wrote to the Irish times stating that 60% of the medical staff on shift were Irish, he said he thought their decision was not conscionable. https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/coronavirus-a-worldwide-crisis-1.4208156)

    They are choosing who to treat based on nationality.

    I don't think the medical board in Australia should rehire people who abandon their post during a crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,527 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Just watching a few documentaries on how the Chinese dealt with containing virus on YouTube.

    We are seriously half assing it in the west. The amount of work and volunteers the Chinese used and they went door to door calling on homes and disinfecting everywhere (and anybody that's ever been in a Chinese city knows most live in huge highrises with multiple homes per floor).


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In my opinion there is no possibility of the restrictions being lifted for several months.

    UK eyeing 6 months, Italy eyeing June. Most governments are simply not telling people the truth in relation to that.

    This "two weeks" stuff, "Easter", "end of April" - that's all completely unrealistic.

    Open up and we'll be locked down again with an explosion in cases within days.

    In that way we are effectively trapped until we have a vaccine.

    If you look at Italy for example and the horror they go through - it's flattening out for them but that's only because they have placed an artificial lid on it through a lockdown.

    As I said before it's like a pressure cooker - remove the lid and undo everything.

    We need a proven tested vaccine ultimately.

    I disagree. The UK said that some kind of social distancing would be required for 6 months. Personally I think that will mean that retail reopens with distancing principles applied, cafes and restaurants reopen with rules on spacing of tables, non essential businesses reopen but working from home is still recommended for office workers, and places that promote social gatherings will remain closed (ie pubs are shut and sport is behind closed doors). Travel around the country will be relaxed so people can go to beaches and parks again. Gatherings of greater than x people will be prohibited and can be closed down by the police. And periodically we might see tightening again for periods of a couple of weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,415 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    How we wish we could see and hug our grandchildren! This is the only thing we've struggled with through the past few weeks.

    Same here , I am really struggling not seeing the grandchildren . Skype and Facetime are helping us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭josip


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    What do you mean to drop something small? Are you restricting drawings etc going into the house? I would have liked to do that for older relations but I’m nervous sending pages or anything the virus could live on to their house


    If you're worried, put them in a letter and hold off for a day before you post it without touching the envelope.
    Assuming a post box is on your exercise route.


  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    New York's Governor Cuomo says they have seen the biggest surge in the rate of hospitalisations in the last 24 hours.

    Meanwhile

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244977299486883840

    That's the level

    It's still early he could go lower.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Palmach wrote: »
    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

    Yeahhh...... That's not how it works.:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Palmach wrote: »
    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.
    You're not allowed to kick old people in the back of the head when they're out shopping either. You might as well do that too, you big rebel.


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